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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby supernedd » February 18th, 2019, 10:15 am

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agent007 wrote:I saw the Rush in person myself and there is something about it that I like. Perhaps, its the looks or the genuine simplicity of the vehicle itself. Yes I know its not the most powerful or the sharpest of handling compared to similarly equipped vehicles but I like it. Lets face something here, globally, SUVs, crossovers and pickups are selling more. There is an upward trend there but for cars, there is a downward trend. So for those who want the added utility of a crossover/SUV coupled with the benefits of having higher ground clearance and you're a family of 4, I see no reason why you should not consider the Rush. If you collapse the 2nd and 3rd row seats, the Rush can be cavernous for the avid pricesmart shopper. It has descent features and willing little motor. I know it has just over 100 horses but it will eventually get you there. You guys remember the Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.0 4WD? That vehicle is insanely slow. There was even a 1.6 model available in the Grand Vitaras as well and I never really heard people complain about its inability to do this or that etc even in 2WD form. The 1.5 in the Rush wont be powering 2 axles so this is going to be great news for those who would never ever venture off road. All vehicles are overpriced locally but when putting things into perspective, for $249k? A Toyota "SUV" priced like a Corolla? Its going to be a hot seller for a long time here.



Maybe a sales man pitch, toyota says its going to increase the prices, as the current prices were " introductory".
As expected... smh

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby kamakazi » February 18th, 2019, 3:04 pm

Crossovers now feel like a rip off... It's just a lifted version of a car (in some cases) for exorbitant premiums
Mazda cx3 is similar to a lifted Mazda 2
Subaru XV is similar to a lifted Impreza.
Honda HR-V is similar to a lifted fit
Mercedes gla is similar to a lifted A class.
Vitara might be similar to a lifted Swift.

And all for a slight increase in ground clearance... In my mind either have the SUV or the car.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby agent007 » February 18th, 2019, 9:29 pm

You're right. The Eclipse Cross and ASX are based on a Lancer platform.

I'll take this opportunity to inform you guys of an oversight on my part. The Eclipse Cross comes with 3 airbags and not the 2 I initially reported. The 3rd being for the driver's side knee.

Hurry because the shipment is almost sold out and from the next one, the fully loaded will be priced at $310k.

Lastly on the topic of Mitsubishi, the Lancer is now officially dead as well as the ASX. My source could not confirm whether they will ever be importing the Pajero or Outlander anymore as a result of high taxation. Furthermore, my source could not confirm if they would be brining in the Mirage or the Chinese Grand Lancer.

Mitsubishi for now, locally, would be represented by the Eclipse Cross and L200 Sportero. The Fuso line of commercial vehicles remain untouched.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby lalloboy101 » February 19th, 2019, 9:08 am

I had a look at the eclipse on Friday, seems like a solidly built vehicle. The inside is about the size of a qasqhai minus the trunk. Seats felt comfortable and the features seemed adequate for the asking price. Still cant understand a price increase tho, as its a 1.5T engine.

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Postby pete » February 19th, 2019, 9:58 am

valentino 46 wrote:Was disappointed when I went to check the Ioniq hybrid that there was no digital dash(Speedo) , no tach, no android auto or Apple car play , no steering paddles to adjust braking regen, don’t know what else was left out for trinidad . All of these features are standard from all the YouTube videos I looked at.


The information screen can be changed to show a bar type tach, speedo, charge animation, tyre pressures etc.

WRT the radio, I'm not sure if the fully loaded ones have the bigger screen with android auto etc, all the ones I've looked into have the regular smaller screen

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 19th, 2019, 3:00 pm

agent007 wrote:You're right. The Eclipse Cross and ASX are based on a Lancer platform.

I'll take this opportunity to inform you guys of an oversight on my part. The Eclipse Cross comes with 3 airbags and not the 2 I initially reported. The 3rd being for the driver's side knee.

Hurry because the shipment is almost sold out and from the next one, the fully loaded will be priced at $310k.

Lastly on the topic of Mitsubishi, the Lancer is now officially dead as well as the ASX. My source could not confirm whether they will ever be importing the Pajero or Outlander anymore as a result of high taxation. Furthermore, my source could not confirm if they would be brining in the Mirage or the Chinese Grand Lancer.

Mitsubishi for now, locally, would be represented by the Eclipse Cross and L200 Sportero. The Fuso line of commercial vehicles remain untouched.


The Grand Lancer is Taiwanese and not Chinese though.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Country_Bookie » February 25th, 2019, 7:35 pm

What are the options for hybrid sedans locally? Just the Nissan note or the Hyundai lonic?
Any alternative dealers bringing the civic hybrid new?

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Postby agent007 » February 26th, 2019, 2:35 pm

Isn’t the Nissan Note e-Power an EV? If so, this is directly compared to the Hyundai Ioniq EV. In which case, I’ll choose the Hyundai only because it has better overal features and after-sale support. From a price and point A to B perspective, the Nissan is an excellent choice.

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Postby valentino 46 » February 26th, 2019, 3:28 pm

Nissan note hybrid/electric ? Sold new locally ???

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Postby agent007 » February 26th, 2019, 3:31 pm

Nope, sold by the grey market/roro/alternative dealers.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby Capleton » February 27th, 2019, 9:30 am

Country_Bookie wrote:What are the options for hybrid sedans locally? Just the Nissan note or the Hyundai lonic?
Any alternative dealers bringing the civic hybrid new?


There is also the Toyota Prius C, which you can get new from the firm. Last I saw the starting price was $162,500 for the fully loaded model. It's a hatch though, so not a sedan.

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Postby DJ Q » February 27th, 2019, 1:03 pm

agent007 wrote:Isn’t the Nissan Note e-Power an EV? If so, this is directly compared to the Hyundai Ioniq EV.


Thought so myself, but no, it's a hybrid.
It's "e-Power" name is because the engine never directly drives the wheels.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby sweeks » February 28th, 2019, 4:47 am

Capleton wrote:
Country_Bookie wrote:What are the options for hybrid sedans locally? Just the Nissan note or the Hyundai lonic?
Any alternative dealers bringing the civic hybrid new?


There is also the Toyota Prius C, which you can get new from the firm. Last I saw the starting price was $162,500 for the fully loaded model. It's a hatch though, so not a sedan.


Don't forget the Kia Niro which is a lovely vehicle IMHO.

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Postby DevilZ » February 28th, 2019, 9:40 am

What vehicle gives you the most airbags for least money?

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Postby rebound » February 28th, 2019, 4:34 pm

Now theres a new metric

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby agent007 » February 28th, 2019, 4:47 pm

Thanks for the info guys.

Most airbags for least money?
Im thinking Suzuki Swift 1.2 or Toyota Prius C 1.5 having 6 each?

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby PapaC » February 28th, 2019, 5:25 pm

Do both models of the new Civic come with 7 airbags or it’s just the top model?

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Postby nick639v2 » February 28th, 2019, 7:34 pm

Saw one of the new Mazda 6 today... Boy is it a pretty thing!!! From the side as I was approaching It looked very Jag like

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Postby agent007 » March 1st, 2019, 8:29 am

Civic is 6 airbags and a Mazda 6 from any angle is gorgeous even looking at it up on a ramp while underneath, it gorgeous.

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Postby rebound » March 2nd, 2019, 10:03 am

There is a GT version also....looks sweet.
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Postby Shalom Vanamson » March 8th, 2019, 3:34 pm

That Mazda 6 would be in hot water real soon :wink: Image Image

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Postby agent007 » March 8th, 2019, 6:02 pm

Sadly mid-size sedans across the globe are slowly dropping off the radar, thanks to the world-wide trend of purchasing more crossovers/SUVs. Locally, mid-size sedans are pretty much dead or extremely slow in sales. Let's consider some current happenings:

Toyota Camry - status? Not imported anymore or relegated to special order. AFAIK, the only current-gen Camry they imported was the 2.5 Hybrid model that the head of TTTL currently drives. In other words, they absorbed it internally and not for sale to the general public. Those 2.5 and 3.5 models are not practical to import anymore due to the increased heavy taxes imposed on them or unless the TTPS passes an order to TTTL to replace written-off/aged 3.5 V6 escort vehicles attached to Special Branch, don't keep your hopes up.

Honda Accord - status? I have no idea. There's a new model launched in NA and it doesn't appear we here in T&T would get a RHD replacement anytime soon. Those 2.0 and 3.5 models are not practical to import anymore due to the increased heavy taxes imposed on them. The new Accord launched in NA does have a 2.0T engine that can make it an attractive alternative to entry-level European sedans but unless Honda sends this in RHD for us, the Accord could be history locally.

Nissan Altima - status? Like the Accord, there is an all-new model launched in NA but in other markets, they still get the Altima/Teana as in the L33 body-style we got but we're not sure if this would be imported going forward because those 2.0, 2.5 and 3.5 models would not make any sense. This new Altima launched in NA does have a 2.0T engine that can make it an attractive alternative to entry-level European sedans but unless Nissan sends this in RHD for us, the Altima (like the Accord) could be history locally.

Mazda 6 - status? SS still imports them in very few numbers. The 2.5 is impractical because of the increased taxes so unfortunately that model is discontinued for us and it's a stretch to ask if we would even get that new 2.5T Signature version that is making waves amongst the automotive press. In the meanwhile, we get a basic 2.0 model with leather and BOSE. Take it for what its worth.

Subaru Legacy - status? The last time Massy imported a Subaru mid-size sedan wearing a Legacy badge was probably 2012-2013. Subaru sedans are dead locally and would only exist thanks to grey market dealers. Massy is focusing on the XV and Forester to float that brand and the odd WRX sale. The current-gen model was never imported and don't expect the all-new 2019/20 model to be seen here either.

Hyundai Sonata - status? Things were nice for Sonatas back in PAZ-PBD days, remember those?. Then we got the newer models that trickled in and sold a handful over the years. Things then looked better when we got the 6th gen model back in 2010 with a striking design called fluidic design sculpture. It sold okay and then in 2014-2015 there was a model change to the 7th gen. Less than 30 were sold locally according to a source of mine (subject to confirmation). Hyundai-Kia realized in terms of mid-size sedans, they would push the Optima for us and close the Sonata chapter. Besides, Massy imported the 2.0 and 2.4 models and the latter would not make any sense as no-one will pay $400k+ for a South Korean sedan. So, to see the 8th gen in T&T is like asking to see a unicorn in the emperor valley zoo.

Kia Optima - status? SS still imports these sedans priced around $320k and they're fully loaded. It's basically a Sonata with a different body. For those who can't stretch to the $400k territory to purchase an entry level european luxury car will find that the Optima is good value for money. It means SS has cornered the mid-size car market with the 6 and Optima. Good for them.

Ford Fusion - status? You could have purchased a bare bones basic 1.5t Fusion from as low as $270 to $299k. But Ford locally is a dead brand. Only the Ranger floats them and as such, the rest of the line-up suffers as I don't think they sell Fiestas and Focuses anymore. Ford and GM announced that they're discontinuing several models and IIRC, the Fusion is one of them so this chapter is almost at a close. The last I saw they had in the showroom was absorbed in a fleet sale to Europcar.

Volkswagen Passat - status? The B5 and B6 is what really made it locally. The price BA asked in relation to the power, features and safety you got was better than many other premium European offerings such as C180, 316i and A4 1.8T Ambient. But quality issues plagued them and the mechatronic issue apparently went viral. So, VW locally is almost a dead brand and as such there are only literally a handful of B8 Passats locally. 1 Owner is already parting ways with his, if not parted ways already. What happens next for VW and Passats locally is anyone's guess.

Some notable mid-size market failures in T&T are:
Toyota Avensis/Corona, Peugeot 406/407, Renault Laguna, Citroen Xantia, Chevrolet Epica and Ford Mondeo. Notable mention is the Mitsubishi Galant which is currently RIP more than a decade and a half ago.

Last 2 standing are the Mazda 6 and Kia Optima. It should be noted that the Mazda 6 is a new direction for Mazda started in 2002 because the 626 which was once a really competitive car became a pile of junk in the years 1997-2001. If Mazda did not make a 6/Atenza then like the Galant, a Mazda mid-size sedan would have been history by now.

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Postby greggle71 » March 8th, 2019, 9:11 pm

agent007 wrote:Sadly mid-size sedans across the globe are slowly dropping off the radar, thanks to the world-wide trend of purchasing more crossovers/SUVs. Locally, mid-size sedans are pretty much dead or extremely slow in sales. Let's consider some current happenings:

Toyota Camry - status? Not imported anymore or relegated to special order. AFAIK, the only current-gen Camry they imported was the 2.5 Hybrid model that the head of TTTL currently drives. In other words, they absorbed it internally and not for sale to the general public. Those 2.5 and 3.5 models are not practical to import anymore due to the increased heavy taxes imposed on them or unless the TTPS passes an order to TTTL to replace written-off/aged 3.5 V6 escort vehicles attached to Special Branch, don't keep your hopes up.

Honda Accord - status? I have no idea. There's a new model launched in NA and it doesn't appear we here in T&T would get a RHD replacement anytime soon. Those 2.0 and 3.5 models are not practical to import anymore due to the increased heavy taxes imposed on them. The new Accord launched in NA does have a 2.0T engine that can make it an attractive alternative to entry-level European sedans but unless Honda sends this in RHD for us, the Accord could be history locally.

Nissan Altima - status? Like the Accord, there is an all-new model launched in NA but in other markets, they still get the Altima/Teana as in the L33 body-style we got but we're not sure if this would be imported going forward because those 2.0, 2.5 and 3.5 models would not make any sense. This new Altima launched in NA does have a 2.0T engine that can make it an attractive alternative to entry-level European sedans but unless Nissan sends this in RHD for us, the Altima (like the Accord) could be history locally.

Mazda 6 - status? SS still imports them in very few numbers. The 2.5 is impractical because of the increased taxes so unfortunately that model is discontinued for us and it's a stretch to ask if we would even get that new 2.5T Signature version that is making waves amongst the automotive press. In the meanwhile, we get a basic 2.0 model with leather and BOSE. Take it for what its worth.

Subaru Legacy - status? The last time Massy imported a Subaru mid-size sedan wearing a Legacy badge was probably 2012-2013. Subaru sedans are dead locally and would only exist thanks to grey market dealers. Massy is focusing on the XV and Forester to float that brand and the odd WRX sale. The current-gen model was never imported and don't expect the all-new 2019/20 model to be seen here either.

Hyundai Sonata - status? Things were nice for Sonatas back in PAZ-PBD days, remember those?. Then we got the newer models that trickled in and sold a handful over the years. Things then looked better when we got the 6th gen model back in 2010 with a striking design called fluidic design sculpture. It sold okay and then in 2014-2015 there was a model change to the 7th gen. Less than 30 were sold locally according to a source of mine (subject to confirmation). Hyundai-Kia realized in terms of mid-size sedans, they would push the Optima for us and close the Sonata chapter. Besides, Massy imported the 2.0 and 2.4 models and the latter would not make any sense as no-one will pay $400k+ for a South Korean sedan. So, to see the 8th gen in T&T is like asking to see a unicorn in the emperor valley zoo.

Kia Optima - status? SS still imports these sedans priced around $320k and they're fully loaded. It's basically a Sonata with a different body. For those who can't stretch to the $400k territory to purchase an entry level european luxury car will find that the Optima is good value for money. It means SS has cornered the mid-size car market with the 6 and Optima. Good for them.

Ford Fusion - status? You could have purchased a bare bones basic 1.5t Fusion from as low as $270 to $299k. But Ford locally is a dead brand. Only the Ranger floats them and as such, the rest of the line-up suffers as I don't think they sell Fiestas and Focuses anymore. Ford and GM announced that they're discontinuing several models and IIRC, the Fusion is one of them so this chapter is almost at a close. The last I saw they had in the showroom was absorbed in a fleet sale to Europcar.

Volkswagen Passat - status? The B5 and B6 is what really made it locally. The price BA asked in relation to the power, features and safety you got was better than many other premium European offerings such as C180, 316i and A4 1.8T Ambient. But quality issues plagued them and the mechatronic issue apparently went viral. So, VW locally is almost a dead brand and as such there are only literally a handful of B8 Passats locally. 1 Owner is already parting ways with his, if not parted ways already. What happens next for VW and Passats locally is anyone's guess.

Some notable mid-size market failures in T&T are:
Toyota Avensis/Corona, Peugeot 406/407, Renault Laguna, Citroen Xantia, Chevrolet Epica and Ford Mondeo. Notable mention is the Mitsubishi Galant which is currently RIP more than a decade and a half ago.

Last 2 standing are the Mazda 6 and Kia Optima. It should be noted that the Mazda 6 is a new direction for Mazda started in 2002 because the 626 which was once a really competitive car became a pile of junk in the years 1997-2001. If Mazda did not make a 6/Atenza then like the Galant, a Mazda mid-size sedan would have been history by now.


Great synopsis, my preference was always for a sedan as opposed to a SUV type but it’s clear that SUVs rule the roost and because you can get them with a relatively small engine with a turbo charger so the pricing is still in the reach of most buyers.

I guess one of the good things is that class of mid/full size sedan you listed above has sister models that are a class below that adopt similar styling and feature set that consumers are willing to purchase at a lower price point without too much compromise as all vehicles are getting bigger or at least designed with longer wheel bases.

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Postby quietdevil » March 13th, 2019, 8:07 am

DevilZ wrote:What vehicle gives you the most airbags for least money?


The most airbags for least money is the Vitara with 7

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Postby jl6106 » March 13th, 2019, 12:58 pm

I saw the new Jimmy in Freeport yesterday.

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Postby ek4ever » March 13th, 2019, 1:27 pm

More reason to keep my EK4

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Postby agent007 » March 16th, 2019, 1:42 am

This thread celebrates 10yrs of existence thanks to all contributors who shared prices and info on new vehicles! Thank you for making it what it is and for your continued constructive criticism and well articulated points/opinions. Many dealerships and sales reps got vital info and feedback thanks to this forum and I hope it will continue to do so for more years to come. Apologies for not updating the prices part lately but I propose to do so later. Cheers guys!

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Postby rebound » March 16th, 2019, 8:13 am

Cheers it really is a useful thread and I especially appreciate your well rounded and informed contributions 007..

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Postby aaron17 » March 16th, 2019, 9:17 am

I hear cvts are bad....in corollas

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