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agent007 wrote:BoostLord, so what happens after 2yrs? People have to do refreshers? If so this reminds me of CompTIA and their money making move.
Question, does Canada recognize T&T degrees and work experience etc?
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:agent007 wrote:I heard to go Canada you have to be young, educated and you must pass some UWI English exam to be invited into their country. I also heard that hundreds of people sit the exam each month, the majority of which are doing so to enter Canada (and it not cheap, think it’s like $2k per exam). Lastly, I was told the main thing is French. Once you could speak French you GT. But winter time up there different, it can get so cold, it’s like getting stabbed repeatedly with knives.
The english exam is known as IELTS...offered at CLL and is hard AF...Im in the process of doing it cuz Canada is on my list...but im finishing meh spanish first....if a person did english for academic purposes @ uwi, it's a good start for IELTS...
questions I got when starting the canada process were:
Highest form of education
The instiution
Married
Average salary per mth
Average savings figure
Why canada
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:agent007 wrote:I heard to go Canada you have to be young, educated and you must pass some UWI English exam to be invited into their country. I also heard that hundreds of people sit the exam each month, the majority of which are doing so to enter Canada (and it not cheap, think it’s like $2k per exam). Lastly, I was told the main thing is French. Once you could speak French you GT. But winter time up there different, it can get so cold, it’s like getting stabbed repeatedly with knives.
The english exam is known as IELTS...offered at CLL and is hard AF...Im in the process of doing it cuz Canada is on my list...but im finishing meh spanish first....if a person did english for academic purposes @ uwi, it's a good start for IELTS...
questions I got when starting the canada process were:
Highest form of education
The instiution
Married
Average salary per mth
Average savings figure
Why canada
Dada 4 wrote:I've been visiting this site for several years and decided to register to post a reply to this issue after reading it today.
I grew up in Trinidad and immigrated to Canada some 28 years ago when I was 8. My mom was a registered nurse and dad a factory worker in usine in Trinidad. Here's my experience....
My parents struggled and sold everything, came as refugees and lived in a basement apartment with my sister and I for years. . My mom had to go back to school to up her education to Canadian standards and dad struggled working in a cabinet factory at minimum wage. My sister and I went though the education system here and assimilated into Canadian culture. We were young enough to do so. My parents eventually bought a home in york region, and we were lucky enough to both get post secondary education and good government jobs. Got married, bought properties and excelled financially. I drive my kids to soccer practices, art classes and vacation twice a year and live a pretty good life.
When I reflect back now I always missed trinidad and when we would visit it was always fun, but life went on without us and the memories faded and the connection grew less and less. My parents being older never really accepted Canada as a home, they always felt like visitors, they would long for trinidad but now the drastic change in culture has them feeling like visitors when they return. They paid off there mortgage and are now retired. They visit different countries and enjoy what's left of their life. They have heart felt memories of missing trinidad, their friends ahve passed and new family members are strangers to them and only known by name. They do not regret leaving, but do have a strong connection to their homeland.
The reality is the competition for well paying jobs, especially in the Toronto, GTA area is fierce. Immigrants from all over, ambitious students etc. There are well paying jobs with perks, but they are tough to get and excell in. My wife and I make a combined gross income of 160k per year, and that allows us to live in a nice area ( york region), we have a savings, some post secondary education money for our two kids and I drive a ten year old corolla. Thats what that amount gets you.
If you want my humble opinion, if you immigrate here you'll have to struggle, yourself and probally find work at 40k per year to start. It will take time to establish yourself. It will be hard, stressful and frustrating. But your kids will reap the benefit and have the oppurtunity to be whatever they want to be in life. Canadians are very accepting ( there's always ignorant people) and you will be in a safe country with a miserable winter where you feel isolated from life at certain points. If you are willing to swing a mop and a bucket in a hospital, you'll make 25 and hour plus benefits and a little money for retirement after 30 years. Life is expensive here and the taxes are crazy, that's how free health care is sustained.
This is just my experience and I wish yourself and family the best of luck.
In Cayman islands a doubles cost around $2.50US and it's not even that great. In UK I paid £2 and still was not good. Don't know about USvaiostation wrote:Somebody who immigrating should open a doubles stall close to where this guy living. No trini should have to go without doubles.
Blaze d Chalice wrote:Aside from "Speaking English" and "Having famalie living" in the US/Canada/UK, what other reasons do you people (not OP specifically) have for going to mostly these 3 places?
One of the reasons I did not consider any of these places, because the majority of bottom-feeder trinis go there to run 'racket and scam' and these pests give the whole 'community' and (country) a bad name, and making it difficult for the honest ones who try to do the right things.
Why not some place like Germany for example?
Many people speak English, but job-wise and most institutions you will need to know the language, and it would also open opportunities in Austria and Switzerland.
As OP already talk about having wife and child, it might be a lil difficult to go learn a language now, but for the rest of you having something other than English and Spanish can work wonders.
Some institutions offered free German language class (Not to be confused with the refugee classes)
Some advantages:
1, you can immediately cut off all the local pests and never have to deal with them again. (I benefited from this)
2, Salaries and standard of living are higher. (I benefited from this)
3, I have seen well dressed (not too vagrant looking) type digging in the bottle bins and making at least €100/day since they pay in euros for returning bottles, if you choose that way. (This doesn't affect me/did not benefit from this)
4, Where Tertiary education (tuition) is free, it is for everyone, foreigner refugee or citizen. Some of this has changed, but only for some universities, and apparently a few more are following suit. (maybe because of an influx of UWI/Gate types)
(This also doesn't affect me/did not benefit from this)
I think most Trinis are people who don't like to get out of their 'safe zone' unless it is their last resort.
I only use German as an example because there are at least 100million speakers, but there are other options as well.
From MY personal experience, avoiding areas with trinis works out much better, and is usually safer.
The first 6 months of never seeing, hearing, talking, communicating with Trinis was such a great experience.
I realized that trinis were one of the main causes of my problems.
But Gopaul luck is not Seepaul luck.
So it might be the opposite for somebody else.
TheBoostLord wrote:Blaze d Chalice wrote:Aside from "Speaking English" and "Having famalie living" in the US/Canada/UK, what other reasons do you people (not OP specifically) have for going to mostly these 3 places?
One of the reasons I did not consider any of these places, because the majority of bottom-feeder trinis go there to run 'racket and scam' and these pests give the whole 'community' and (country) a bad name, and making it difficult for the honest ones who try to do the right things.
Why not some place like Germany for example?
Many people speak English, but job-wise and most institutions you will need to know the language, and it would also open opportunities in Austria and Switzerland.
As OP already talk about having wife and child, it might be a lil difficult to go learn a language now, but for the rest of you having something other than English and Spanish can work wonders.
Some institutions offered free German language class (Not to be confused with the refugee classes)
Some advantages:
1, you can immediately cut off all the local pests and never have to deal with them again. (I benefited from this)
2, Salaries and standard of living are higher. (I benefited from this)
3, I have seen well dressed (not too vagrant looking) type digging in the bottle bins and making at least €100/day since they pay in euros for returning bottles, if you choose that way. (This doesn't affect me/did not benefit from this)
4, Where Tertiary education (tuition) is free, it is for everyone, foreigner refugee or citizen. Some of this has changed, but only for some universities, and apparently a few more are following suit. (maybe because of an influx of UWI/Gate types)
(This also doesn't affect me/did not benefit from this)
I think most Trinis are people who don't like to get out of their 'safe zone' unless it is their last resort.
I only use German as an example because there are at least 100million speakers, but there are other options as well.
From MY personal experience, avoiding areas with trinis works out much better, and is usually safer.
The first 6 months of never seeing, hearing, talking, communicating with Trinis was such a great experience.
I realized that trinis were one of the main causes of my problems.
But Gopaul luck is not Seepaul luck.
So it might be the opposite for somebody else.
The language barrier and immigration polices are basically why. Its not easy to learn a language as an adult. Germany is not easy to immigrate to either. Its not attractive to the regular caribbean person unless they have lots of free time and not much responsibilities (i.e. young) and posses the desire for succeeding in such an environment.
Funny you mentioned Germany tho, about 7 years ago in North Carolina i met a German girl, 30, who came to usa to do her masters cus she said she saw all those teen college movies about the usa and campus life and she wanted to experience it so bad that despite having just ok english she made the jump. She said her family told her she was crazy. Her english was more than adequate when i spoke to her at the end of the one year there. She came from a small town of maybe 800 people she told me.
Also my wife's aunt was married and lived in Norway for a very long time until her husband died and the guys family didnt really like her so she came back Trini.
One of my friends met a Swedish guy on tinder, in trinidad a few years ago and she went over got married, and learnt a lot of the language and even setup her own yoga studio, but immigration is hell and shes here right now still battling it. Having been to Sweden I can understand why she would put up and fight so much for it. Lovely country.
My sister even lived in Denmark, Belgium and few other places, she learnt a good deal of Dutch + Norwegian but the only real way for permanent residence was to get married and she wasnt about that life. Shes back here.
3 Years ago in Barbados I met a Trini who has not been to Trinidad in over 20 years. He was in barbados on a training course. He originally migrated to Canada, met a European woman, got married and is living in Switzerland with his 2 kids. He wants no part of Trinidad again. Was sad to hear but i understood.
Basically there are persons that would love to go off the beaten path but its not that easily accessible. The safe zones make leaving here a much more practical step since you have island/family help and immigration is more accommodating and for a lot of them they still gain a better quality of life, all things considered.
agent007 wrote:What country do you all prefer guys? Australia or Canada? They both accept the IELTS english assessment exam which is being booked by dozens of candidates as we speak until July 2019. I found this out a few seconds ago.
Yes, leaving is the only option. Sit from afar and watch this sh!thole WOFT country go to hell. Have plenty and readywtf wrote:Every sector or Industry is maxed out in Trinidad. No Vacancies in teaching, Medical Field, Engineering, Project Management etc..
Is leaving Trinidad the best option?
For persons that migrated, or lived a portion of their lives abroad, what are the issues with surviving elsewhere as a Trini?
English test easy as fcuk..... averaged a 9/10 in each section. Not surprised Trinis find this challenging as most have rudimentary reading and writing skills and speak like they from the ghetto. Canada right to have this mandatory for applicants from Trinidadshake d livin wake d dead wrote:agent007 wrote:I heard to go Canada you have to be young, educated and you must pass some UWI English exam to be invited into their country. I also heard that hundreds of people sit the exam each month, the majority of which are doing so to enter Canada (and it not cheap, think it’s like $2k per exam). Lastly, I was told the main thing is French. Once you could speak French you GT. But winter time up there different, it can get so cold, it’s like getting stabbed repeatedly with knives.
The english exam is known as IELTS...offered at CLL and is hard AF...Im in the process of doing it cuz Canada is on my list...but im finishing meh spanish first....if a person did english for academic purposes @ uwi, it's a good start for IELTS...
questions I got when starting the canada process were:
Highest form of education
The instiution
Married
Average salary per mth
Average savings figure
Why canada
rspann wrote:What experiences have you had that cause you to be so sick of Trinidad? Please share .
I know there are challenges and anywhere you go will have some, but I think it's about being able to adapt.
I personally want to live in a country that does not have a one horse economy, offers activities to do year round and have services that actually work. My son will also benefit from Canadian education and opportunities.rspann wrote:What experiences have you had that cause you to be so sick of Trinidad? Please share .
I know there are challenges and anywhere you go will have some, but I think it's about being able to adapt.
Rspann, it is better that ppl try to do something than sit and fail. If they go abroad and failed then they tried and saw what was life about and how another country operates.rspann wrote:I understand your points ,and only you could make the correct decision for yourself and your family. it's just that I've seen so many people migrate and retun here because it didn't work for them ,and yet it did for others. So I guess it's what you make of it. My sister in law was born in Canada when my in- laws went there when the whole of Penal rushed there years ago, and they came back not too long after. She grew up here but went there to live when she got married. Her two children were also born there and they enjoy the benefits you speak about.
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