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Ever realise that the most emmigration happens under PNM watch.rspann wrote:I guess if you have nothing and nothing is on the horizon, then it might be a good thing for a young person.
Zoom, look on the bright side. UNC not winning anytime soon , so Rowley, Imbert, Stuart and Faris here for at least the next 11 years, so Trinidad
Dada 4 wrote:Thank-you brother. I was hesitant to post my experience as I didn't want it to come across as bragging about salary or my life as it wasn't my intent. When I saw the origin post it reminded me of the frustration he or she must be struggling with, the same frustration as my parents did many decades ago. How does one make a decision to "end their life as they know". Which is essentially what a person or family making this decision is doing. I haven't been back to trinidad for a while, I brought my wife (girlfriend at the time) back to meet my family in 2000. When I went "back home" I would look at the people, the homes, the roads, the cane fields in prince's town and always wonder who I would be, what job I would have, what spouse I would end up with and where my life would be if I didn't leave as a child. It was very nostalgic and at times over whelming. When I would visit people or parts of trinidad I had memories of it made Part of me still still does even to this day.
I watch YouTube videos and ig feeds of trini food, culture etc and still feel that I wish I was there after all these years. To sum it up, if you do decide to leave you're not just leaving a country, you are leaving a part of yourself soul behind.
I miss doubles being readily available in the morning.
There's no bright side to PNM, never has been. The only thing they know how to do is fcuk up a country.... the record speaks for itselfrspann wrote:I guess if you have nothing and nothing is on the horizon, then it might be a good thing for a young person.
Zoom, look on the bright side. UNC not winning anytime soon , so Rowley, Imbert, Stuart and Faris here for at least the next 11 years, so Trinidad should get back good given some time.
Trinidad may be good if you are an immigrant comming into here, like the small islanders and vennies opportunities exist for them for jobs that trinis don't want to do.ek4ever wrote:There's no bright side to PNM, never has been. The only thing they know how to do is fcuk up a country.... the record speaks for itselfrspann wrote:I guess if you have nothing and nothing is on the horizon, then it might be a good thing for a young person.
Zoom, look on the bright side. UNC not winning anytime soon , so Rowley, Imbert, Stuart and Faris here for at least the next 11 years, so Trinidad should get back good given some time.
zoom rader wrote:Trinidad may be good if you are an immigrant comming into here, like the small islanders and vennies opportunities exist for them for jobs that trinis don't want to do.ek4ever wrote:There's no bright side to PNM, never has been. The only thing they know how to do is fcuk up a country.... the record speaks for itselfrspann wrote:I guess if you have nothing and nothing is on the horizon, then it might be a good thing for a young person.
Zoom, look on the bright side. UNC not winning anytime soon , so Rowley, Imbert, Stuart and Faris here for at least the next 11 years, so Trinidad should get back good given some time.
Once a trini family or person has reached a certain level they will look for the next higher step.
Deep rooted trinis are mostly lower to mid class and these are the folk that look to move on. The rich and super rich could not care less to move as most of them have dual citizenship but choose to live here cause they can afford it . laws are easy break with very little penalties. Think money and drug bussiness folk who are involved in this.
Years ago a study was done on trinidad where the results was all trinidad was good for is to educate people and then those ppl move on to the North America . Trinidad supplys educated folk to north america, that's the truth.
That is because of the government mis management and putting square pegs in round holes. Lots of non politcal alined folk had to leave because of unjust treatment when it came to promotions.Numb3r4 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Trinidad may be good if you are an immigrant comming into here, like the small islanders and vennies opportunities exist for them for jobs that trinis don't want to do.ek4ever wrote:There's no bright side to PNM, never has been. The only thing they know how to do is fcuk up a country.... the record speaks for itselfrspann wrote:I guess if you have nothing and nothing is on the horizon, then it might be a good thing for a young person.
Zoom, look on the bright side. UNC not winning anytime soon , so Rowley, Imbert, Stuart and Faris here for at least the next 11 years, so Trinidad should get back good given some time.
Once a trini family or person has reached a certain level they will look for the next higher step.
Deep rooted trinis are mostly lower to mid class and these are the folk that look to move on. The rich and super rich could not care less to move as most of them have dual citizenship but choose to live here cause they can afford it . laws are easy break with very little penalties. Think money and drug bussiness folk who are involved in this.
Years ago a study was done on trinidad where the results was all trinidad was good for is to educate people and then those ppl move on to the North America . Trinidad supplys educated folk to north america, that's the truth.
Educated and skilled professionals, we had a habit of training good oil and gas professionals that some how despite having a nationalized industry we still couldn't take advantage of their talent and skill and I can tell you in my experience its wasn't always the money (though I'm sure it played a part) they left for, many complained about the attitude of the local management and the poor choices made by said management.
rspann wrote:I won't deny that, but is everyone in Trinidad fed up to the extent that they want to migrate permanently? Redress, do you live in Trinidad? Are you making it here satisfactorily? Would you leave ( if you live here) at the slightest opportunity?
I travel to the US nearly every month for business and I've never had the urge to leave here and settle over there, while one of my close friends left everything here and settled there to make a better opportunity for two of his children( education for one ,and health care etc) . He works in a Home depot and his wife in Target , but when he was here he had his own business . Now he works late nights and weekends too, depends on the shift.
I agree with Redman, it's all about your priorities, and how much you put into it,
TheBoostLord wrote:I'll give my situation. 31 married, 3 month old baby. I'm a us citizen so i have the option to take my family there, but we would be basically starting from scratch. wife's law degree wont mean a thing. im basically self employed so jumping into another country would see me start from zero. We also have the option of going to canada, in fact we applied and received a permanent resident invitation which is about 80% complete. However the same situation applies, though it might be a bit worse in Canada in that they require you to have canadian work experience & education (immigrants wont have this, even though you enter the country based on education/work experience) so you then again have to start from scratch in most fields. Canada is larger than usa with the budget of California. Great high paying jobs have very high competition. even if you are the best of the best, you still have to go through their system for those jobs since almost everything is regulated, unless you wana open your own business. I have a good amount of family support in a few states in usa, wife has family support in canada. Flip side is we enjoy a certain standard of living in trinidad right now esp with tremendous family support, which we wont be able to sustain if we left. Wife has a good secure well paying job with benefits, and im not doing too bad myself, its just a shame the country is the way it is. We cant really get to enjoy things. walking on the street in florida or ontario feels SO MUCH safer than trinidad, sorry to say. I honestly love this place so im torn every morning when i wake up and i have to continually make a decision to stay or leave. Both wife and i agree that leaving would be much better for our child which we probably would end up doing. What hurts me the most is all the car projects ive been doing for years are almost completed and i wont get to enjoy them. ill have to part out or sell wayyyy under what i spent plus all that time+ energy just gone. I think thats why im so on the fence with moving.
car wrote:Any one care to discuss going illegally?
Best of luck broTheBoostLord wrote:TheBoostLord wrote:I'll give my situation. 31 married, 3 month old baby. I'm a us citizen so i have the option to take my family there, but we would be basically starting from scratch. wife's law degree wont mean a thing. im basically self employed so jumping into another country would see me start from zero. We also have the option of going to canada, in fact we applied and received a permanent resident invitation which is about 80% complete. However the same situation applies, though it might be a bit worse in Canada in that they require you to have canadian work experience & education (immigrants wont have this, even though you enter the country based on education/work experience) so you then again have to start from scratch in most fields. Canada is larger than usa with the budget of California. Great high paying jobs have very high competition. even if you are the best of the best, you still have to go through their system for those jobs since almost everything is regulated, unless you wana open your own business. I have a good amount of family support in a few states in usa, wife has family support in canada. Flip side is we enjoy a certain standard of living in trinidad right now esp with tremendous family support, which we wont be able to sustain if we left. Wife has a good secure well paying job with benefits, and im not doing too bad myself, its just a shame the country is the way it is. We cant really get to enjoy things. walking on the street in florida or ontario feels SO MUCH safer than trinidad, sorry to say. I honestly love this place so im torn every morning when i wake up and i have to continually make a decision to stay or leave. Both wife and i agree that leaving would be much better for our child which we probably would end up doing. What hurts me the most is all the car projects ive been doing for years are almost completed and i wont get to enjoy them. ill have to part out or sell wayyyy under what i spent plus all that time+ energy just gone. I think thats why im so on the fence with moving.
Due to some recent personal developments, im throwing in the towel. Ive fought with myself for about 10 years whether to stay or go and it seems a lot more easier now. I have started taking steps towards uprooting myself and honestly while i do feel kina sad, there is a significant sense of relief.
I've rejected the Canadian invitation and will be heading to USA instead. its just a better deal for me.
TheBoostLord wrote:So you will be moving back here? Or continuing visits?
RedVEVO wrote:^^
Just leave
And do like the intellectual RedVEVO
Go and come back , go and come back ..
And laugh and eat good ..
Trini is a MC place !!
TheBoostLord wrote:Everyday i see more reasons to leave. Sigh.
ek4ever wrote:I personally want to live in a country that does not have a one horse economy, offers activities to do year round and have services that actually work. My son will also benefit from Canadian education and opportunities.rspann wrote:What experiences have you had that cause you to be so sick of Trinidad? Please share .
I know there are challenges and anywhere you go will have some, but I think it's about being able to adapt.
Trinidad is an undisciplined country where you have to fight up to get anything done. Can't wait to get my Canadian citizenship... will have a party to bun my Trini passport. Then I won't have to come back to this country ever again.
Only thing I usually miss when I'm out of Trinidad is the food and I can cook everything I want. Other than that Trinidad offers nothing else.
The only thing Trinidad can offer as a Caribbean country are the beaches which in most cases are deplorable, nasty and usually have muffler bearings blaring music and disturbing everyone with their dotish behavior. Shopping and entertainment is 3rd world crap.
airuma wrote:Nice to read some personal experiences. This is very helpful for those of us on the fence. The decision to migrate gets harder the older you get IMHO. Everyone who I spoke to about migrating is doing it for their children..... little or no future here for them. Very sad!
IMHO those who are staying have adapted to the limits well or are benefiting from the limits e.g. criminal lawyers and even they might be returning to their children abroad during the breaks in the law terms.
Can anyone share their experience with the Canadian migration process? So far I've heard it takes about 1 yr. First you need to prepare for and write the IELTS English language test then based on the score you will be invited to apply for permanent residency. If you can speak French, it's a plus. You then have to apply for residency and will be given a score based on your education, experience and AGE (Over 40 you start to lose points?).
Every year there is a cut off application score (as opposed from the score from the IELTS), scores below the cut off will not be considered. If your score is above the cut off, you will have to provide a Canadian address to mail your residency? card to and you will have to be there to collect it. After that there is a certain amount of time you must spend (6months in 3yrs?) before you can apply for permanent residency.
goalpost wrote:How does one even begin this process? To migrate?
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