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De Dragon wrote:A trench typically is required when you need to stabilize a heavy upper structure. You don't always need a trench however, as my two port garage, which was constructed afterwards had none, and it is very heavy as I cast the top 4 inches thick with a 4 foot wall all around, to put in an entertainment area over the garage.
Now in lieu of a trench, we wrecked the corners, dug to 4 feet, and cast butts which we then installed steel beams on. Then we braced the entire structure, installed the deck pans and poured the concrete.
car wrote:When u say extension, do you mean walls and roof or just a concrete floor?
sjenille4 wrote:I want to build an extension infront my house. My house is a corner lot. The road goes right along the side I intend on doing my extension. My contractor insists that it's a small extention and needs no trench under the foundation as I intend to caste right out till the road anyway. Won't a missing trench eventually cause the walls to crack? He says the road will act as the brace. Is he insane? I don't know, but I have never heard of an extension being built without even a shallow trench somewhere. The extension will form an 'L' around the corner of the house. 30ft long x 15 ft wide on one side. 20ft long x 6ft wide on the other side. A clearance of 15ft still will exist from the new walls to road. This will also be concreted. Any advice? Hire him or the man mad?
skylinechild wrote:sjenille4 wrote:I want to build an extension infront my house. My house is a corner lot. The road goes right along the side I intend on doing my extension. My contractor insists that it's a small extention and needs no trench under the foundation as I intend to caste right out till the road anyway. Won't a missing trench eventually cause the walls to crack? He says the road will act as the brace. Is he insane? I don't know, but I have never heard of an extension being built without even a shallow trench somewhere. The extension will form an 'L' around the corner of the house. 30ft long x 15 ft wide on one side. 20ft long x 6ft wide on the other side. A clearance of 15ft still will exist from the new walls to road. This will also be concreted. Any advice? Hire him or the man mad?
man mad u need a trench - also dont forget u cannot build on the roadside u need to leave a 5ft from the road edge as a shoulder unless u is indian an u grab every inch of land
/ good luck
Gladiator wrote:You should do a trench, tie the steel through the corner posts and to the roof. Build it good and strong... remember we had big earthquake and bret pass through a couple years ago.
sjenille4 wrote:Gladiator wrote:You should do a trench, tie the steel through the corner posts and to the roof. Build it good and strong... remember we had big earthquake and bret pass through a couple years ago.
Yes and that put tiny cracks in one of my beams.
rspann wrote:sjenille4 wrote:Gladiator wrote:You should do a trench, tie the steel through the corner posts and to the roof. Build it good and strong... remember we had big earthquake and bret pass through a couple years ago.
Yes and that put tiny cracks in one of my beams.
The beam that cracked was built by the same builder?
sjenille4 wrote:I want to build an extension infront my house. My house is a corner lot. The road goes right along the side I intend on doing my extension. My contractor insists that it's a small extention and needs no trench under the foundation as I intend to caste right out till the road anyway. Won't a missing trench eventually cause the walls to crack? He says the road will act as the brace. Is he insane? I don't know, but I have never heard of an extension being built without even a shallow trench somewhere. The extension will form an 'L' around the corner of the house. 30ft long x 15 ft wide on one side. 20ft long x 6ft wide on the other side. A clearance of 15ft still will exist from the new walls to road. This will also be concreted. Any advice? Hire him or the man mad?
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