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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 6:56 pm

a re-badge unc project.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 13th, 2019, 7:03 pm

I would like to tell allyuh what going on there just now, but you all will just have to wait a couple months more to see.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » September 13th, 2019, 7:03 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Image

Close a hospital for 4 years to change the sign... achievement
Pnm ppl go think that Rowlee build it.

I guess the sign cost more than the hospital

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Postby matix » September 13th, 2019, 8:00 pm

zoom rader wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Image

Close a hospital for 4 years to change the sign... achievement
Pnm ppl go think that Rowlee build it.

I guess the sign cost more than the hospital



Most likely it did.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby sMASH » September 13th, 2019, 8:40 pm

rspann wrote:I would like to tell allyuh what going on there just now, but you all will just have to wait a couple months more to see.

private chinese casino?

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » September 14th, 2019, 7:03 am

sMASH wrote:
rspann wrote:I would like to tell allyuh what going on there just now, but you all will just have to wait a couple months more to see.

private chinese casino?
Rumour has it, that it will be sold to a private company.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:13 am

Not sold. They are going to run it for the Govt at their expense for the first few years .

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:15 am

The onlything that wall missing is a Balisier .

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby sMASH » September 14th, 2019, 7:17 am

WTactualF
that is just a payment disguised as a contract.

but then again, they might run it better than the locals. lets see.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:22 am

Nah, it's supposed to be a reputable health care provider with hospitals world wide. Not the one that was originally going to get it that was embroiled in scandals and allegations of bribery.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 14th, 2019, 7:28 am

If this initiative going to "assist" our failed health system, then by all means

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:28 am

Remember that Interhealth Canada was supposed to run it ,almost got it already when the mark buss about bribery scandals ( one in Turks and Caicos ) and the Govt backpedalled.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:31 am

The Turks and Caicos Islands Government (TCIG) has recently employed a law firm into the TCI to look into the contract/deal amongst TCIG and InterHealth Canada.

This was revealed by Honourable Edwin Astwood, Minister of Health on a segment of popular radio show, ‘Expressions’ on Wednesday May 30th, 2018.

Many in the community have expressed that the much expensive deal by InterHealth Canada and Turks and Caicos Islands Government continues to rest on the shoulders of Turks and Caicos Islanders.

News report coming out of Trinidad recently spoke about a new Hospital there and a deal between InterHealth Canada and the Trinidadian Government and they alluded to the suspicion of corruption and a bad deal and used the Turks and Caicos as an example.

Commenting in this issue, Hon. Astwood said, “What I can vouch to the general public, and I know that a lot of persons are waiting and listening to say let me see if the Minister is going to say anything so that I can report him to Integrity Commission. I am not talking about the general public just those persons. What I can say is that works are being done, we in Turks and Caicos Islands Government (TCIG) have employed a law firm to look into the contract and these works have been done, presentations have already been made about the findings and it’s ongoing and we’re hoping that we can announce something to the public soon.”

He added; “We had asked the Attorney General Chambers what we can say to the public that will not jeopardize this case because we don’t want that we say something and then they say, 'oh well this cannot go on because the Minister of Health just went on public radio and say this'. We want to be guided, because we know that it is something that I have been crying out for and many persons in the general public have been crying out for but I can rest assured that things are happening and this is being looked at and there is a law firm employed by the Turks and Caicos Islands to see this arrangement.”

When contacted about the matter, Deputy Attorney General, Dr. Michael Dillon stated: “It has been drawn to our attention that some public speculations have been made which requires clarification. Following a review by the Turks and Caicos Islands Government, TCIG and InterHealth Canada TCI are currently in discussions to improve the cost efficiency of administrative operations of the two hospitals in the Turks and Caicos Islands.

As with all partnerships there are disagreements and disputes from time to time; however, both parties aim to resolve these matters in the most amicable, and quickest way possible. Due to the provisions of the Agreement with InterHealth Canada, the parties may not disclose the details of the disputes. In the event that an amicable solution cannot be reached, the Agreement allows for disputes to be disposed of through independent arbitration.”

Meantime, the Minster of Health emphasized that he is looking at a lot of deals that were done between the Turks and Caicos Islands Government (TCIG) and other people and it seems that the TCI is at a disadvantage.

“I was wondering who negotiated on these deals because now sitting in Cabinet it is almost impossible for us to get anything done because we have to check this box and that box, and I am like where were all of these checks before the PDM administration got in? How come all of these things went unnoticed, all these things happen in the Turks and Caicos all these bad deals and I am looking at now being in Government and being in Cabinet and seeing that all of the hopes and letters that we have to jump through just to get anything happen. I was wondering how come these things happen in the past and where were these checks and balances before that could have prevented all of these things from happening and how come all of these checks and balances only appear now,” Astwood said.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:34 am

Saturday 5 May 2018 Laurel Williams
What’s the deal?
Opposition wants answers on InterHealth Canada plan for Couva hospital
In this August 14, 2015 file photo, prime minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar cuts the ribbon to open the Couva Children’s Hospital along with the Chinese ambassador Huang Xingyuan, left, and health minister Dr Faud Khan. Now under the Dr Keith Rowley government, the hospital is to be managed under a public partnership agreement with InterHealth Canada.
Government should shed more light on the public-private partnership deal for InterHealth Canada to manage the $1.3 billion Couva Children’s Hospital, Opposition members have said, especially since the firm’s operations in Turks and Caicos Islands (TCI) are the subject of corruption allegations.

Former health minister Dr Fuad Khan is questioning claims of non-disclosure clauses between the Dr Keith Rowley-led administration and InterHealth Canada in operating the hospital facility, while Fyzabad MP Dr Lackram Bodoe wants to know if the facility will provide paediatric services and other services free to the public.

Khan is wondering how much money would be paid to the Canadian firm.

“If a management company comes to manage something, then they would have to be paid. How much are they going to be paid? What is the agreement that they made?” Khan said.

InterHealth Canada is wrapped up in controversy in the Turks and Caicos Islands (TCI), a British overseas territory, over a public-private partnership agreement for the construction and operations of two hospitals.

Khan said he does not know much about InterHealth Canada, a global healthcare management firm, but despite his own call for clarification he was pleased the Couva facility will be operational.

“At the end of the day, I am very glad that the hospital that we built will be used. How it is going to be used, is a choice for the government of the day. Some people may like it, some people may not,” Khan said.

InterHealth Canada runs UK public-private facilities and both public and private facilities in the Middle East.

On his April 26 return from London, Rowley announced that InterHealth Canada and the University of the West Indies (UWI) would run the Couva hospital facility with a different mandate. In this new arrangement, the hospital will be used as “a basis to enter this lucrative area of offshore medical training.” The new operators and owners, Rowley said, would determine “how far we go with this hospital.”

The following day, UWI’s St Augustine campus confirmed it met with Government regarding its role in the operationalisation of the Couva hospital. Its marketing and communications office told Sunday Newsday discussions were in the early stages and would be ongoing to work out the details of the arrangement. Therefore, there are no specifics to report. When Rowley made the announcement, UWI principal Brain Copeland said he was pleased the campus had been engaged on this venture.

But Rowley’s comments did not go well with Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar. She raised concerns about the proposed collaboration saying InterHealth Canada is embroiled in corruption allegations.

TCI and InterHealth Canada

According to the InterHealth Canada’s official website, the company was awarded a contract to build and operate two new hospitals for TCI’s government over a 25-year period. In 2010, it commenced clinical operations on the Cheshire Hall and Cockburn Town Medical Centres.

Since 2012, when the InterHealth Canada deal was leaked via two online news sites, it remains a source of controversy due to the ongoing financial obligations. According to Euromoney Institutional Investor PLC, the launch of the hospital projects accompanied the introduction of a system of national insurance (Interhealth Canada-run National Health Insurance Plan). This means a percentage of residents’ income is used towards paying for treatment on the island. Euromoney Institutional Investor PLC is an international business-information group listed on the London Stock Exchange.

Several newspapers among them the Turks and Caicos Weekly News reported that the deal is at a high cost to the people–half a billion US dollars.

Based on reports on the leaked deal, if InterHealth Canada is to forfeit on the contract the government would have to prove whether the company breached the agreement. However, the exit clause by InterHealth Canada has a penalty of US$125 million, the same amount of which is the mortgage for the hospitals.

President of the Couva/Point Lisas Chamber of Commerce Ramchand Rajbal Maraj said if one were to believe the media reports about alleged corruption links to InterHealth Canada, then Government needs to stay away from any arrangement with the company.

“I am not personally aware of the details. But if the facts reveal that it is so, I think we should stay away from those sort of companies,” Maraj said. Maraj said central Trinidad has the largest industrial estate and it is unfair that burgesses would have to pay for medical services. “We need proper machinery and facilities and we hope it will operate in such a manner.”

Hospital facility

for children, adults

The Couva hospital has been in contention since the Persad-Bissessar-led People’s Partnership (PP) administration lost the election in 2015. The facility was intended to comprise a 150-bed adult hospital and an 80-bed children’s hospital, a burns care and plastic surgery centre and specialised paediatric services.

On August 14, 2015, weeks before the general election, the PP government opened the $1.3 billion facility, and officials then claimed it was completed and equipped to be up and running. But after the election, the current government said the hospital was actually not ready and several arrangements were being considered to have the facility operational. The private-public partnership between Government, InterHealth Canada and UWI is the latest for the facility.

Bodoe, a former chairman of the South West Regional Health Authority, called on Government to provide information about the “extensive medical services” that were originally proposed for children. He also wanted clarification on whether local healthcare workers such as doctors, nurses, and allied healthcare professionals would be guaranteed jobs with the proposed operator.

He described Rowley’s announcement that the hospital would be open, as “welcoming news.”

Opposition Leader’s claims

Persad-Bissessar first raised concerns about the proposed operator of the hospital at the UNC’s 29th anniversary interfaith service last Saturday. She questioned if any due diligence was done on the Canadian company.

Based on Cabinet notes and minutes, she claimed Government planned to set up a special purpose company to oversee the operation of the hospital. Additionally, she claimed Government wanted to change the name of the facility. To support her claims about corruption links, she quoted from a TCI newspaper commentary titled the Turks and Caicos national health insurance scandal. The article was written by John Skippings a former director of tourism and chief marketing officer for the TCI tourist board. In that article, he said there is the mystery of how a loan for the hospitals’ contract by FirstCaribbean International Bank to InterHealth Canada for US$118,519,821 resulted in annual obligations by the Turks and Caicos people to InterHealth Canada of in excess of US$60 million per year, over a 25-year period.

In response to claims of the proposed deal, details of which are not yet public, Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said he rejected any allegations of corruption. Instead, he said there are no issues with InterHealth Canada and forecast the initiative would significantly improve health services in this country.

Saturday 5 May 2018 Laurel Williams

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 7:37 am

The important thing is that in the last paragraph. Deyalsingh rejected allegations of corruption. And we all know he is a truthful fella.

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Postby Skanky » September 14th, 2019, 8:35 am

Say what you want about Rowley and PNM but they know how to get things done in Trinidad. Be generally nice and diplomatic but when need be bring out the muffler bearing, abuse them and tell them it's for their own good.

Kamla and the UNC will never sway the voters they need with their nice, approachable and down to earth personality they pushing. They out of touch with the voting public.

Trinis don't respond to nice. They require abuse and high handedness.

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Postby 16 cycles » September 14th, 2019, 11:20 am

Has it been changed from a children's hospital to a regular one?

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Postby zoom rader » September 14th, 2019, 11:25 am

Skanky wrote:Say what you want about Rowley and PNM but they know how to get things done in Trinidad. Be generally nice and diplomatic but when need be bring out the muffler bearing, abuse them and tell them it's for their own good.

Kamla and the UNC will never sway the voters they need with their nice, approachable and down to earth personality they pushing. They out of touch with the voting public.

Trinis don't respond to nice. They require abuse and high handedness.


Not all Trinis bro

Only PNM ppl respond to abuse and handesness. They are programmed this way.

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Postby rspann » September 14th, 2019, 11:30 am

16 cycles wrote:Has it been changed from a children's hospital to a regular one?


Regular and teaching.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » September 14th, 2019, 11:31 am

rspann wrote:Not sold. They are going to run it for the Govt at their expense for the first few years .
Well that is as good as been sold.

I guess this hospital will be reserved for certain money folk while kwame and rspann have to fight up in the general hospital.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby maj. tom » September 14th, 2019, 11:33 am

Skanky wrote:Say what you want about Rowley and PNM but they know how to get things done in Trinidad. Be generally nice and diplomatic but when need be bring out the muffler bearing, abuse them and tell them it's for their own good.

Kamla and the UNC will never sway the voters they need with their nice, approachable and down to earth personality they pushing. They out of touch with the voting public.

Trinis don't respond to nice. They require abuse and high handedness.


The general public responds to people being arseholes as a leader. It shows that they are willing to get things done at whatever cost when crunch comes. It's like the buff bully football player stereotype, but yet he is still the most popular figure at school because people know he gets the sheit done, despite how he steps on the toes of the weak and timid. This is how you're seeing certified arseholes as leaders all of a sudden in the world... USA Trump, UK Johnson, TT Rowley. I suspect it's a response to the climate of political correctness and retarded feminism and the people can't take it anymore so they vote it a tough leader, albeit how stupid and unfair their governance is turning out to be. In the grassroots and rural voter population these kind of leader click hard and fast with their type of thinking, and hence the unexpected clown circus victories at the polls.

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Postby zoom rader » September 14th, 2019, 11:39 am

maj. tom wrote:
Skanky wrote:Say what you want about Rowley and PNM but they know how to get things done in Trinidad. Be generally nice and diplomatic but when need be bring out the muffler bearing, abuse them and tell them it's for their own good.

Kamla and the UNC will never sway the voters they need with their nice, approachable and down to earth personality they pushing. They out of touch with the voting public.

Trinis don't respond to nice. They require abuse and high handedness.


The general public responds to people being arseholes as a leader. It shows that they are willing to get things done at whatever cost when crunch comes. It's like the buff bully football player stereotype, but yet he is still the most popular figure at school because people know he gets the sheit done, despite how he steps on the toes of the weak and timid. This is how you're seeing certified arseholes as leaders all of a sudden in the world... USA Trump, UK Johnson, TT Rowley. I suspect it's a response to the climate of political correctness and retarded feminism and the people can't take it anymore so they vote it a tough leader, albeit how stupid and unfair their governance is turning out to be. In the grassroots and rural voter population these kind of leader click hard and fast with their type of thinking, and hence the unexpected clown circus victories at the polls.
Well I told you all we have some very stupid ppl in trini

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Kenjo » September 14th, 2019, 12:14 pm

16 cycles wrote:Has it been changed from a children's hospital to a regular one?

What exactly people understand/mean by a children’s hospital exactly ?

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Postby De Dragon » September 15th, 2019, 10:23 am

maj. tom wrote:
Skanky wrote:Say what you want about Rowley and PNM but they know how to get things done in Trinidad. Be generally nice and diplomatic but when need be bring out the muffler bearing, abuse them and tell them it's for their own good.

Kamla and the UNC will never sway the voters they need with their nice, approachable and down to earth personality they pushing. They out of touch with the voting public.

Trinis don't respond to nice. They require abuse and high handedness.


The general public responds to people being arseholes as a leader. It shows that they are willing to get things done at whatever cost when crunch comes. It's like the buff bully football player stereotype, but yet he is still the most popular figure at school because people know he gets the sheit done, despite how he steps on the toes of the weak and timid. This is how you're seeing certified arseholes as leaders all of a sudden in the world... USA Trump, UK Johnson, TT Rowley. I suspect it's a response to the climate of political correctness and retarded feminism and the people can't take it anymore so they vote it a tough leader, albeit how stupid and unfair their governance is turning out to be. In the grassroots and rural voter population these kind of leader click hard and fast with their type of thinking, and hence the unexpected clown circus victories at the polls.

People wouldn't mind the gutter snipe JUHN Scarfy IF he was getting sheit done, but he has failed badly in all metrics like crime, economy, healthcare. Worse yet, he has no one to temper his arseness, but a setta wanna be toughs and bamsee greasers like Arse-Wari, and Goebbels Young.

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https://www.facebook.com/607210217/post ... 980630218/

Hearing our pitch lake isn't ours anymore. How true is this?

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Postby kstt » September 15th, 2019, 3:22 pm

rspann wrote:Not sold. They are going to run it for the Govt at their expense for the first few years .


Then the government will take control with outdated equipment?

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Postby De Dragon » September 15th, 2019, 3:24 pm

kstt wrote:
rspann wrote:Not sold. They are going to run it for the Govt at their expense for the first few years .


Then the government will take control with outdated equipment?

No ,then they will fack it 'way like ISCOTT, Methanol 1, Tringen etc. Even the best equipment in the world is not PNM proof.

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Rovin wrote:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157362409273614&set=gm.2505984749647422&type=3&theater


Rohan.

She is the hardest working Minister of Labour or so it was said of her on I95.5fm yesterday.

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Postby sMASH » September 15th, 2019, 6:17 pm

kstt wrote:https://www.facebook.com/607210217/posts/10157380980630218/

Hearing our pitch lake isn't ours anymore. How true is this?

that talk goin on since manning days. i think a few people get pre action for making those claims publicly. but to date, there is no documents available to prove that it isnt. its like. the posession of the pitch lake is a closely guarded secret

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