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death365 wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Another piece of my 2 cents...I have been in conversations with mangers and hr people...when hiring they tend to look for graduates from arthur lok jack first because according to them, ALJ is more recognised and not watered down like
Sams
Sital
Sbcs etc
All this sheit about masters in a year blah blah
ah sorry but yuh wong. i can honestly tell u where i work; in both permanent and contract positions - the check list just says a degree or masters or what ever . no considerations with respect to where and level aka 1st or 2nd class.
agent007 wrote:Thanks for the feedback guys. Honestly all have unique pros and cons. It all boils down to what your priorities are. For established people, they may not need those expensive ones. For those not so established but really want to spruce up their resume then going all the way out with HWU and ALJGSB might be a good option for you.
It's never a bad decision to improve your academic skills whether it brings forth immediate financial returns for you or not. Education is power. Go for it.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:there are thousands of people with masters and their salary aint cross 10k yet..if you want to do a masters just for the sake of saying "I have ah masters" then fix up....unless you or your family are well known and you can score a good job, suck salt with yuh masters
agent007 wrote:I still cannot add value to your concerns without having a proper background on yourself and what you truly expect. So to be broad, let me summarize it as this from a T&T viewpoint:
Most highly ranked MBA available: HWU - SBCS
Best indigenous MBA: ALJGSB
Most affordable MBA: UoB - CTS, SHEL, SITAL
Best MBA facilities: ARU - SAM
Most parking: ALJGSB
Best lecturer to student support: ARU - SAM
Best library: ALJGSB
Best customer service: UoB - CTS
Most appreciated MBA for career advancement locally: ALJGSB
Most appreciated MBA for career advancement regionally and internationally: HWU - SBCS
If you like exams then HWU - SBCS.
If you like a combination of coursework and exams then ARU - SAM.
If you like coursework - UoB - CTS, SHEL, SITAL
Cramming for exams is typical and some can leave HWU - SBCS without a clue as to what they’ve done. I’m talking about retention of what was learnt. Getting the opportunity to makeup marks via exam from coursework or vice versa is important for some also and that means ARU - SAM would be your practical choice. If you just like to type, and do a lot of it, then the UoB trio would be your choice.
I like the practicality and contemporary topics offered by UoB. I like the array of options available via HWU and I like the intensity of ALJGSB. Lastly, I like the ARU approach as it’s the most mind friendly one of this bunch.
Concerning the USC MBA, I guess if you have an allegiance to the SDA church then maybe that’s the one for you but I can’t go any further.
Costs subject to confirmation:
ALJGSB:
$128,060. IMBA
Figure includes programme costs, student services fees and registration fees.
SBCS:
$98,244. General MBA
$120,076. Specialist MBA
Figures include tuition, registration and university fees.
SAM:
$81,071.
Figure include tuition, executive support (optional), registration, thesis and university fees.
CTS:
$44,774.
Figure includes tuition, registration and university fees. A discount of $6,000. will be given to specially qualified attendees of the free information session.
Good luck.
AbstractPoetic wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:there are thousands of people with masters and their salary aint cross 10k yet..if you want to do a masters just for the sake of saying "I have ah masters" then fix up....unless you or your family are well known and you can score a good job, suck salt with yuh masters
My mind is blown. Is that 10K a month or 10K bi-weekly? It's been several years since I've lived in TT. I was hoping a working class salary would amount to about 20K a month at minimum.
AbstractPoetic wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:there are thousands of people with masters and their salary aint cross 10k yet..if you want to do a masters just for the sake of saying "I have ah masters" then fix up....unless you or your family are well known and you can score a good job, suck salt with yuh masters
My mind is blown. Is that 10K a month or 10K bi-weekly? It's been several years since I've lived in TT. I was hoping a working class salary would amount to about 20K a month at minimum.
pyromaniax wrote:Doing an MBA or Msc is not a waste of time.
I worked in Management Trainee positions with my undergrad, after about 2 and a half years of working I started my Msc at UWI. While I was completing my practicum I got offered a pretty good Management position in a company with plenty of upward movement options and have been doing great since.
I only got this opportunity due to taking the initiative to further my education and pursue the Msc. If i listened to people telling me it was a waste of time and didn't do it I would not be in the position I am today.
Dohplaydat wrote:pyromaniax wrote:Doing an MBA or Msc is not a waste of time.
I worked in Management Trainee positions with my undergrad, after about 2 and a half years of working I started my Msc at UWI. While I was completing my practicum I got offered a pretty good Management position in a company with plenty of upward movement options and have been doing great since.
I only got this opportunity due to taking the initiative to further my education and pursue the Msc. If i listened to people telling me it was a waste of time and didn't do it I would not be in the position I am today.
I think if you intend to stay and live locally doing an MBA or MSc is good.
People have this misconception that HR doesn't care (only experience matters) or that it's a waste of time and money.
Learning is never a waste. Knowledge you gain in an MBA can be applied to your job, making you better at it (far better than jus having experience is having a proven track record of performance).
However, our post grad degrees done through UWI or Lok Jack don't improve your international credibility since they're not internationally accredited (honestly not sure about Lol Jack, but no UWI MSc is).
I have a master's from UWI and one from Kings College. While I know Kings is one of the best in the world, it made the UWI MSc look like like CXC general vs A-Levels (GCSC). Chalk and cheese they say.
pyromaniax wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:pyromaniax wrote:Doing an MBA or Msc is not a waste of time.
I worked in Management Trainee positions with my undergrad, after about 2 and a half years of working I started my Msc at UWI. While I was completing my practicum I got offered a pretty good Management position in a company with plenty of upward movement options and have been doing great since.
I only got this opportunity due to taking the initiative to further my education and pursue the Msc. If i listened to people telling me it was a waste of time and didn't do it I would not be in the position I am today.
I think if you intend to stay and live locally doing an MBA or MSc is good.
People have this misconception that HR doesn't care (only experience matters) or that it's a waste of time and money.
Learning is never a waste. Knowledge you gain in an MBA can be applied to your job, making you better at it (far better than jus having experience is having a proven track record of performance).
However, our post grad degrees done through UWI or Lok Jack don't improve your international credibility since they're not internationally accredited (honestly not sure about Lol Jack, but no UWI MSc is).
I have a master's from UWI and one from Kings College. While I know Kings is one of the best in the world, it made the UWI MSc look like like CXC general vs A-Levels (GCSC). Chalk and cheese they say.
I have had my Bachelors and Masters from UWI internationally assessed and the Msc is internationally accredited
Dohplaydat wrote:pyromaniax wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:pyromaniax wrote:Doing an MBA or Msc is not a waste of time.
I worked in Management Trainee positions with my undergrad, after about 2 and a half years of working I started my Msc at UWI. While I was completing my practicum I got offered a pretty good Management position in a company with plenty of upward movement options and have been doing great since.
I only got this opportunity due to taking the initiative to further my education and pursue the Msc. If i listened to people telling me it was a waste of time and didn't do it I would not be in the position I am today.
I think if you intend to stay and live locally doing an MBA or MSc is good.
People have this misconception that HR doesn't care (only experience matters) or that it's a waste of time and money.
Learning is never a waste. Knowledge you gain in an MBA can be applied to your job, making you better at it (far better than jus having experience is having a proven track record of performance).
However, our post grad degrees done through UWI or Lok Jack don't improve your international credibility since they're not internationally accredited (honestly not sure about Lol Jack, but no UWI MSc is).
I have a master's from UWI and one from Kings College. While I know Kings is one of the best in the world, it made the UWI MSc look like like CXC general vs A-Levels (GCSC). Chalk and cheese they say.
I have had my Bachelors and Masters from UWI internationally assessed and the Msc is internationally accredited
Dude I'm telling you, not all are. It's a fact, the UWI MSc standard is pitiful. The level or research, dedication of the student, quality of materials is woefully lacking.
UWI MSc is mostly a gimmick.
Dohplaydat wrote:pyromaniax wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:pyromaniax wrote:Doing an MBA or Msc is not a waste of time.
I worked in Management Trainee positions with my undergrad, after about 2 and a half years of working I started my Msc at UWI. While I was completing my practicum I got offered a pretty good Management position in a company with plenty of upward movement options and have been doing great since.
I only got this opportunity due to taking the initiative to further my education and pursue the Msc. If i listened to people telling me it was a waste of time and didn't do it I would not be in the position I am today.
I think if you intend to stay and live locally doing an MBA or MSc is good.
People have this misconception that HR doesn't care (only experience matters) or that it's a waste of time and money.
Learning is never a waste. Knowledge you gain in an MBA can be applied to your job, making you better at it (far better than jus having experience is having a proven track record of performance).
However, our post grad degrees done through UWI or Lok Jack don't improve your international credibility since they're not internationally accredited (honestly not sure about Lol Jack, but no UWI MSc is).
I have a master's from UWI and one from Kings College. While I know Kings is one of the best in the world, it made the UWI MSc look like like CXC general vs A-Levels (GCSC). Chalk and cheese they say.
I have had my Bachelors and Masters from UWI internationally assessed and the Msc is internationally accredited
Dude I'm telling you, not all are. It's a fact, the UWI MSc standard is pitiful. The level or research, dedication of the student, quality of materials is woefully lacking.
UWI MSc is mostly a gimmick.
thelem-again wrote:As always. Some good take aways and some good garbage on this particular thread.
However, despite the negative opinions, an MBA is really supposed to be used have an understanding of corporate governance and business/management functions.
Its not meant to propel you or make you a manager or supervisor or for you to get a boost in salary. Completing an MBA programme is really better situated for someone who is already at a managerial or executive level, so that they can improve their critical thinking skills and apply the theories learnt to real working-conditions and scenarios.
So when you have a person with a first degree and an MBA without any applicable work experience (be it supervisory or managerial), the MBA does not hold any weight or merit.
Compare that to a person with a first degree with various managerial/supervisory work experience and possessing an MBA, it shows that not only does the person has the necessary competence and experience, but also that they have the skills required which can result in them applying the theories they learnt into practice.
Animal Pak wrote:Always think about what outcome you want.
If you are in a company and want to switch from operations to corporate AND the company is willing to pay for it for you then go ahead.
If the company you are in gives you a salary increase for higher education AND helps pay for it then go ahead.
Don’t do something like this stand alone and definitely don’t do this if your company has no upward mobility.
I have HR friends. Not one of them ever hired someone based on the fact that they have an MBA.
A basic degree with experience and good people skills will get you way way way further than an MBA ever will.
Why invest time and money into something that may or may not work in your favor.
I know people who are senior managers with MBAs. The truth is, all of them have gotten to those same positions based on links and playing office politics and only did the MBA after.
It is what it is.
De Dragon wrote:Animal Pak wrote:Always think about what outcome you want.
If you are in a company and want to switch from operations to corporate AND the company is willing to pay for it for you then go ahead.
If the company you are in gives you a salary increase for higher education AND helps pay for it then go ahead.
Don’t do something like this stand alone and definitely don’t do this if your company has no upward mobility.
I have HR friends. Not one of them ever hired someone based on the fact that they have an MBA.
A basic degree with experience and good people skills will get you way way way further than an MBA ever will.
Why invest time and money into something that may or may not work in your favor.
I know people who are senior managers with MBAs. The truth is, all of them have gotten to those same positions based on links and playing office politics and only did the MBA after.
It is what it is.
This has mostly been my experience in the industry
khandman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Animal Pak wrote:Always think about what outcome you want.
If you are in a company and want to switch from operations to corporate AND the company is willing to pay for it for you then go ahead.
If the company you are in gives you a salary increase for higher education AND helps pay for it then go ahead.
Don’t do something like this stand alone and definitely don’t do this if your company has no upward mobility.
I have HR friends. Not one of them ever hired someone based on the fact that they have an MBA.
A basic degree with experience and good people skills will get you way way way further than an MBA ever will.
Why invest time and money into something that may or may not work in your favor.
I know people who are senior managers with MBAs. The truth is, all of them have gotten to those same positions based on links and playing office politics and only did the MBA after.
It is what it is.
This has mostly been my experience in the industry
Bumping this thread for 2022 perspectives. Thinking about the logistics and supply chain mba at either CTS or SAMS. Main reason is because they are the most affordable and they are both uk universities. Any feedback from knowledgeable persons are appreciated.
DMan7 wrote:Did the OP choose a MBA in the past 9 years yet?
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