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Views on D15B-T Or B16A

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 9:31 pm
by JDM_GUY
What are your votes when it comes to a D15B-T or a B16A swap?

Note that both cost about the same
Turbo a D15 $15000.00
B16A and Gearbox $15000.00 Installed.


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Re: Views on D15B-T Or B16A

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 9:35 pm
by Honda_Crew
Thinking of going Bseries.
What happen with your boost project?

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 9:41 pm
by JDM_GUY
^^ Not impressed with the Tq of the little D when boost comes in

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 9:51 pm
by Honda_Crew
JDM_GUY wrote:^^ Not impressed with the Tq of the little D when boost comes in


It Boosted already :?:
How much PSI :?:
Dyno numbers :?:

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 9:55 pm
by red_dragon
or did u compare with a boosted D ?

if u going B save the extra and get B18c GSR


base your decision on

coin u gotta spend most of all

1. more performance would be b16

2. mild , b18c

3. just spend...

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 10:04 pm
by honda hoe
gsr?

bleh

type r if u could find it

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 10:04 pm
by r3iXmann
red_dragon wrote:or did u compare with a boosted D ?

if u going B save the extra and get B18c GSR


:idea:

indeed.


man worrying about tq and want to swap in a b16A yes :lol: :lol:

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 10:08 pm
by red_dragon
honda hoe wrote:gsr?

bleh

type r if u could find it




yes and no

just to roll or build on GSR


to up in and leave alone Type R


why pay more if u gonna swap out everything in the B18C-R

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 11:30 pm
by X2
FOrget them weak sauce GSR engines... go type R and slap all the parts you can on it !


If you are running a turbo D and don't like the torque then you have a bad setup or a newb tuning it..... D15b/T will out torque any and all n/a swaps you can consider. The downfall will be the redline combined with the D series box (ratios kinda suck).

Anyone want to buy my B.... Imma go D16 turbo again !!!

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 12:01 am
by Kinday
X2 wrote: If you are running a turbo D and don't like the torque then you have a bad setup or a newb tuning it..... D15b/T will out torque any and all n/a swaps you can consider. The downfall will be the redline combined with the D series box (ratios kinda suck).


What X2 said...go D series boost and build it right. I know you do your research, so get some studying going. It's the better choice between the 2 pound for pound.

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 12:24 am
by X2
pound for pound for real... consider a turbo D setup can be made lighter than a LSVT or CRVT swap so even handling will be better as distribution will be closer to stock.

You will loff zee boost.

And for some reason I'm regaining the desire to actually do another D series project.... :mrgreen:

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 8:39 am
by A172
15k for a stock b16a swap? :wtf:

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 9:40 am
by red_dragon
the man said 15K installed

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 9:42 am
by A172
whaz de price of engine and box alone?

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 8:28 pm
by kes_vtec
boost, even if is 10psi on a stock block

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 8:32 pm
by JDM_GUY
Well building the engine inside out will provide much more boost pressures and give me allot more power. I could even install a GT35 lol...

Hum this one will have to be thought through and looked at from different angles. Building it will be allot of fun though.

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 8:03 pm
by JDM_GUY
any Turbo D ever raced any SR20DETs or B16As?

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 8:43 pm
by red_dragon
for that talk to Eddie

Posted: July 28th, 2009, 7:46 am
by NY4PD
Stick to the D15B Vtec if thats what you have. You can make up the torque in other areas if you like... or get a D16Y8 motor and boost that....big time...

Do not go with the D15B 3-stage vtec.

How ever the B16A is a great swap plus when boosted...lots of fun and comfortable in the 13 second bracket... plus easy to drive for Daily Driven.

I stress out all the time have a Goal and stick to it....

Its not all about how fast you are, its not all about who you beat in the race.
Its all about being reliable.
Its all about your goals in the build and consistency at all time wins and bring home the trophy at the end of the year, which leads to sponsor in future and bigger builds for more HP....

HP Goals-???
1/4 Time???
etc etc....

Good Luck
NY4PD....

Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 7:24 pm
by JDM_GUY
^^ thanks man. Good advice... :wink:

Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 9:53 pm
by Honda_Crew
My boosted D15b is complete but I did not get the boost gauge in
time. So while testing and running it hard the head gasket blew.
Thank GOD it was that alone. My car could now out perform most
SR20s and b16a's.
My goal for now is just 200WHP.

Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 10:07 pm
by B20VTEK
Honda_Crew wrote:My boosted D15b is complete but I did not get the boost gauge in
time. So while testing and running it hard the head gasket blew.
Thank GOD it was that alone. My car could now out perform most
SR20s and b16a's.
My goal for now is just 200WHP.


get the car tuned properly before you blow it.

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 6:58 am
by dbaby
Honda crew boost gauge and air fuel gauge is a must have when increasing boost and testing/tuning (wide band if possible) :roll:

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 9:25 am
by NY4PD
What spring pressure you have in the wastegate...?????

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 9:26 am
by NY4PD
Oh, a wideband 02 sensor is a must on boosted cars..

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 1:18 pm
by Honda_Crew
NY4PD wrote:What spring pressure you have in the wastegate...?????


??Im not sure???

I have the air fuel ratio gauge its just to collect the boost gauge now.

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 1:22 pm
by NY4PD
Honda_Crew wrote:
NY4PD wrote:What spring pressure you have in the wastegate...?????


??Im not sure???

I have the air fuel ratio gauge its just to collect the boost gauge now.


Ok well, you have to be careful, you should have at lease a spring for about 7-PSI then you can use a boost control manually or electronic. If the motor is stock use a 7-PSI spring, However if the motor is built for more boost then you can use a 12-PSI spring and then use a boost controller. If the motor is stock internals then tune for 250 to the wheels and you will be set, providing you have the right injectors and fuel pressure regulator with a upgraded fuel pump and fuel rail...

Keep me inform as you go along..

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 1:25 pm
by Honda_Crew
Ok cool man thx appreciate all the help and advice.

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 1:28 pm
by NY4PD
Honda_Crew wrote:Ok cool man thx appreciate all the help and advice.


No prob's man anytime, I will be home in Trinidad next year July 2009. and i will be building and installing Turbo on Hondas so please look me up.

Posted: August 4th, 2009, 1:35 pm
by Honda_Crew
NY4PD wrote:
Honda_Crew wrote:Ok cool man thx appreciate all the help and advice.


No prob's man anytime, I will be home in Trinidad next year July 2009. and i will be building and installing Turbo on Hondas so please look me up.


Nice, I will man...