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engine

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 10:08 pm
by certified_dealer
well im looking to buy me a honda to do a lil project.....my friend building alot of rb20det and 25det.....i wanna go Honda all the way.....whats the best way to go...what engine to buy....will this cost me alot....im looking to buy a ek3 hatch

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 10:16 pm
by r3iXmann
budget?

Posted: July 16th, 2009, 10:53 pm
by certified_dealer
i looking at 15,000 for the engine wwork

the civic im looking to buy has a b16 0X

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 9:15 am
by Hirotoshi
you can do a frank build(B20 engine block,with the B16 head), 10.5 compression pistons, cold air intake & 2.5 cat-back exhaust. if the car you are buying is an auto,then a manual conversion should be a priority, 8-) .

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 10:10 am
by red_dragon
if he catering 15K look at a boosted project over a B20

or

Sell the b16 from the car .. add the 15K to that and do a B18c R turbo project


b18b LS instead of a b20b if u get bored with the NA the LS can also be boosted

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 10:37 am
by wana-B-racer
you need more money of you going boosted.
Trust me

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 11:01 am
by mugen power
just curious
what parts you need and the cost to boost the b16a

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 11:02 am
by red_dragon
if u not goin in the engine 15k should cut it :?

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 11:51 am
by JD......
depends on management/ tune alone could cost over 5K and all the smaller parts also may need to get an LSD

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 7:55 pm
by certified_dealer
but will i be able to beat rb25det.....in a c33 laurel.....how much u think i need to cater for cash that is

engine

Posted: July 17th, 2009, 11:56 pm
by moe
lol ! buddy start with $60,000 and yuh ent finish yet !! lol if yuh want boost!!

Posted: July 18th, 2009, 6:05 am
by cincuanta
Um silly question here...this will be done AFTER the upgrades to your braking and suspension rite :oops: ?

But B18C in the EK3 hatch would move :D..Anyone knows how easy it is to get an engine like this?

Posted: July 18th, 2009, 9:27 am
by phaze
its not easy. if yuh get one take it

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 11:42 am
by civic2nv
If ure boosting or not I have an aem management for sale pm me with contact info. If ure interested.

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 1:22 pm
by High_Speed_Imports
just boost your B16 will look at about 200whp with a proper tune and stock internals

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 1:43 pm
by EarthQuake
anything honda is paper. so play a lotto lion. you will come out better

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 1:45 pm
by EarthQuake
and the reason why ur buddies buildin rb's and sheit\

simply

its a bit cheaper to do so

Posted: July 27th, 2009, 7:51 pm
by JDM_GUY
Boost the B16A.. It should take to you around 250 HP

Posted: July 28th, 2009, 7:18 am
by NY4PD
B20 motor fails, dont do B20 because they are very very soft and will break easy under pressure. and forget that frank crap, beacuse people dont build them right, and they always cheap out the parts and try to cut corners.

The EK3 hatch moves well with a B16 or any b18, weather its LS or B18C series, If you like Honda and going to get the hatch, depends on your budget just Boost the stock B16 motor, which you will have around 250-Whp depends on the turbo and tune set-up with stock internals. And then spend the rest of money on all suspension and brake upgrades..

Note:
Be smart.
Spend wisely.
Have a HP / 1/4 mile time Goal and stick to it.
Build and enjoy.
Forget what others say about how fast and which is better if you on a budget plan.
Take your time on the build and dont rush, other wise Boom Boom.....

Good Luck....

NY4PD....
Any help you may need I'm here to help.
Lots of people here can vouch for me.

Posted: July 28th, 2009, 11:06 pm
by certified_dealer
thanks for the advise....you know any good web sites i can get some more info....what

Posted: July 28th, 2009, 11:44 pm
by Sky
red_dragon wrote:if he catering 15K look at a boosted project over a B20

or

Sell the b16 from the car .. add the 15K to that and do a B18c R turbo project


b18b LS instead of a b20b if u get bored with the NA the LS can also be boosted

B18C5 takes boost well? The high cr nah..
What about the B18C1 for boost?

My advice. Sell that B, buy a D or an H and boost the fk out of it. If it blow then run down to bamboo and get another like those nissan guys. If you wanna beat Godzilla then NA is a hard route to take

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 6:02 am
by NY4PD
Sky wrote:
red_dragon wrote:if he catering 15K look at a boosted project over a B20

or

Sell the b16 from the car .. add the 15K to that and do a B18c R turbo project


b18b LS instead of a b20b if u get bored with the NA the LS can also be boosted

B18C5 takes boost well? The high cr nah..
What about the B18C1 for boost?

My advice. Sell that B, buy a D or an H and boost the fk out of it. If it blow then run down to bamboo and get another like those nissan guys. If you wanna beat Godzilla then NA is a hard route to take


Where did you get your brain from boy...............H-series fails on boost period........you think people have 10 to 15,000 dollars to waste every month when it blows...you have to be out of your mind, unless you paying for it.
The block on the H-series is not good nor setup up for boost period and to get it it setup it will cost alot of money, which will run good after but it cost.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
to do it right.....

However the D-series is a good choice if its the D16Y8 setup. But I personal will not get rid of the B-series for the D-series. The B-series will be better all round and better gas mileage and reliablity on a Daily Driven car.

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 8:50 am
by r3iXmann
NY4PD wrote:The block on the H-series is not good nor setup up for boost period and to get it it setup it will cost alot of money, which will run good after but it cost.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
to do it right.....


indeed. FRM sleeves ftl :x

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 9:00 am
by EL JEFE
How about boosting a F20b ? PM user import if you want any tips on doing that.

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 9:23 am
by r3iXmann
the DOHC?

that'd be a sweet project..especially in a lighter chassis car :P

*cough*CRX*cough*

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 11:39 am
by NY4PD
EL JEFE wrote:How about boosting a F20b ? PM user import if you want any tips on doing that.


Boosting a DOHC F20B is a good set to boost but the compression is to high, so you will have to lower the compression. Its best you go with a B18A1 LS motor and boost that or the B16A motor. Alot easier and parts is alot easier to find around the world for these 2 engines. The f20b will cost to get pistons rods etc at the begining... The B16A and B18A1 is alot easier to boost for less money with stock internals. However if money is not a problem and you have a goal for big HP like 400+hp and more then i would say build the B-series with all the right internals parts and you would be set and make good hp goals....

Overall: The B-series is more reliable and easier to get parts for.

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 11:59 am
by Sky
NY4PD wrote:
Sky wrote:
red_dragon wrote:if he catering 15K look at a boosted project over a B20

or

Sell the b16 from the car .. add the 15K to that and do a B18c R turbo project


b18b LS instead of a b20b if u get bored with the NA the LS can also be boosted

B18C5 takes boost well? The high cr nah..
What about the B18C1 for boost?

My advice. Sell that B, buy a D or an H and boost the fk out of it. If it blow then run down to bamboo and get another like those nissan guys. If you wanna beat Godzilla then NA is a hard route to take


Where did you get your brain from boy...............H-series fails on boost period........you think people have 10 to 15,000 dollars to waste every month when it blows...you have to be out of your mind, unless you paying for it.
The block on the H-series is not good nor setup up for boost period and to get it it setup it will cost alot of money, which will run good after but it cost.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
to do it right.....

However the D-series is a good choice if its the D16Y8 setup. But I personal will not get rid of the B-series for the D-series. The B-series will be better all round and better gas mileage and reliablity on a Daily Driven car.



I dunno much about the H series, but from what I've seen, most Hondas that keep up with muscle cars are Boosted H in a crx. So why not? And why the insult? And they don't cost that much :?

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 12:16 pm
by r3iXmann
Sky wrote: And they don't cost that much :?


is about $7-9k for one... ~ 15k for a type r/s

engine only

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 2:29 pm
by certified_dealer
so boost a b16a and i in the game,.....after i could always throw in some internals 0X

Posted: July 29th, 2009, 2:40 pm
by NY4PD
certified_dealer wrote:so boost a b16a and i in the game,.....after i could always throw in some internals 0X


Yes agreed.........^^^^^^^^^^^^