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Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 2nd, 2010, 2:01 pm
by JDM_GUY
Looking into a header for the B16a, already dynoed and got 135HP with 98TQ bone stock with 3" custom short ram with K&N filter.

There a number of headers on the market. Looking to spend $2000 TT

choices are:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-4-1- ... 1e600ee636

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-HEAD ... 336220587f

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Megan-Ra ... 1c108ba912

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 2nd, 2010, 4:40 pm
by High_Speed_Imports
When your ready give me a call, I sold each of them already can give you reviews

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 2nd, 2010, 7:53 pm
by bonestock
JDM_GUY wrote:Looking into a header for the B16a, already dynoed and got 135HP with 98TQ bone stock with 3" custom short ram with K&N filter.

There a number of headers on the market. Looking to spend $2000 TT

choices are:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-4-1- ... 1e600ee636

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-HEAD ... 336220587f

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Megan-Ra ... 1c108ba912


Not sure of the prices, but this is what is recommended for B16As

http://sirspeed.info/main.php?load=mods..headers.php (good reading I find)

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 2nd, 2010, 11:07 pm
by red_dragon
read some stuff

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/htup_0804_honda_header_tri_y_vs_4_into_1_dyno_test/index.html

http://www.importtuner.com/powerpages/0604_impp_2000_honda_civic_si/index.html
my 2cts
$2000 for a header .. gain 5-10 max

put a ad and get a B18c block
or add the $2k to the sale of your engine

a header is a good as the other parts in the engine


and if your short ram is pulling hot air .. loss of HP there also


when I had a stock b16 only mods I ever did was

port match S2k TB ,, with CAI
2 1/4 exhaust
and u can ask Jason how it performed

if nothing internal is changed .. external parts not gonna give you any big gains....

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 3rd, 2010, 3:05 am
by High_Speed_Imports
We are now the Skunk2 dealers

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 3rd, 2010, 7:27 am
by speedfreak44
if u are going with ebay 4-1 headers with ur ride height u will hurt urself...

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 3rd, 2010, 9:20 am
by JDM_GUY
speedfreak44, i thought about it and decided not to. I will get a 4-2-1 or a 4-2-2-1

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 3:37 am
by ingalook

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 8:30 am
by speedfreak44
after market headers compared to using itr 98spec headers on b16, which is more worth it?

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 10:42 am
by red_dragon
^ Some say u loose low down with the B18 header on a B16

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 10:49 am
by speedfreak44
low down torque u meant?

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 12:59 pm
by red_dragon
^ correct
but never tried myself
2 reasons


the b - pipe is longer than a B16 and collector is bigger than a b16a

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 5:51 pm
by speedfreak44
we wont low torque on a b16 .. makes sense

recalled paz saying that ebay headers make the bess dyno charts for him

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 7:42 pm
by red_dragon
^ yes it would

doh know bout Paz and his stuff

but remember different headers perform different with different part combos..

put down the entire build u thinkin bout and see what works bets

Is a B-series.. not much was untested.. why reinvent

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 5th, 2010, 7:52 pm
by red_dragon

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 8:24 am
by red_dragon

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 9:45 am
by JDM_GUY
was looking into getting one of these headers. costing a little over 3500TT shiped:

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2434887

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 3:31 pm
by speedfreak44
red_dragon wrote:Speed also check
[url]
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech ... mbers.html[/url]



for $2000 for just 2 digit increases.... boost that beyotch

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 3:34 pm
by speedfreak44
JDM_GUY wrote:was looking into getting one of these headers. costing a little over 3500TT shiped:

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2434887



for 3500tt you could slap in type r pistons... and u might still have change, or even a good ported flow head, and ebay headers might show much better gains

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 4:17 pm
by JDM_GUY
But if I buy the header and then put the pistons and port the head i will get bigger gains.

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 4:24 pm
by speedfreak44
u looking to spend 9gs for a 30hp increase if so much?

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 6:47 pm
by red_dragon
Mo

what is your goal after you add a header.. cause this post going just like your D-series build

:deadhorse:

if u want more that 30 - B18c

less ..just give me the money u wanna spend

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 6th, 2010, 10:01 pm
by speedfreak44
0X i say b18c block 0X

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 7th, 2010, 11:02 am
by JDM_GUY
red_dragon wrote:Mo

what is your goal after you add a header.. cause this post going just like your D-series build

:deadhorse:

if u want more that 30 - B18c

less ..just give me the money u wanna spend



if i give you the money what you giving me?

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 7th, 2010, 6:38 pm
by red_dragon
^ nada .. cause you wastin it any way

what we all try to say u not gonna get big gains check some of the links i posted here
and see the kinda coin peeps put out and the gains they got NA

note .. up to now no one locally can say they got 200 on a small budget
only 2 i kinda know of and they ended up going boost for the same price they spent NA

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 7th, 2010, 6:47 pm
by r3iXmann

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 8th, 2010, 6:42 am
by kes_vtec
got hytec repls on a old b20 build, 10hp 300us

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 8th, 2010, 9:13 am
by JDM_GUY
Was told the hytec rep are not meant for b16a and I wouldn't gain any HP

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 8th, 2010, 9:44 am
by speedfreak44
the tri-y header is proven a greater gain... 20hp in some cases,
but all u keep saying is headers, u need to get a header, whether ebay or not and tune to achieve gain with whatever is added... makes no sense just looking for a header for internet based gains, need to work and tune with what u have.

Re: Headers for the B16a?

Posted: December 8th, 2010, 11:12 am
by r3iXmann
r3iXmann wrote:http://www.trinituner.com/v3/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=346375


:|

instant 30whp, $4k more than what youd pay for a decent header

AND you can sell back your current head and block and offset the cost