Fram oil filters - users

[intelMAX]

Beware of these cheaply made filters,

better alternative on the cheap, purolator brand filters


Review - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21883344-Tech-Review-The-Long-Waited-FRAM-OIL-FILTER-REVIEW

[VexXx Dogg]

Used fram oil filters on my old 92 honda civic for 6 years with no issues.

[Hook]

I hardly see a review that includes "I cannot remember the surface area of the medium, however, I to remember it was much much less then the Supertech, and Valvoline filters I've done (less by around 1/3 less area)", as a valid test, but there are enough cut-out test comparisons on the internet to know what's in there.
I've used Fram filters on occasions where I can't get Valvoline or Purolator filters at the point where I purchased my oil, but only for a couple days at a time, so I can't honestly vouch for their durability.

[wagonrunner]

I don't use Fram.
That early opening bypass valve is what influenced my decision years ago, when i noticed the oil drastically change color, compared to the purolator.

[skylinechild]

currently using FRAM XG 6607.. due for an oil change this month.

WIll cut open the old oil filter to see how its constructed inside.

Honestly the 1st vid isnt really a comparison..they chose the LOWEST of the fram filter models
( PH) to compare to the other filters...anyone with half a brain would do some sort of research and know NOT to go for the PH model. ( then again everybody want to buy the cheapest thing for
"de bfarteen" what do you expect - you get what you pay for.

the PH oil filter those things are rated for like 5000 miles (8046.72kms) << online conversion chart
keep in mind the average car covers about 450-500kms in one week of driving

there are ppl who dislike stuff if you were to search YouTube there are ppl who put up stuff voicing their opinions saying toyota is crap mitsubishi evolution is crap apple is the best..apple is the worse...
those things are THEIR OPINIONS.....

my 0.02c..don let a "scientific internet review" like above determine your choices.
do your research and purchase accordingly - remember you get what you pay for.

[toyolink]

Cannot be upset with $20-$30 oil filters.They are what they are.
Unfortunately,many users try to equate them with filters of much higher grade and obviously price.
The simple truth is you get what you pay for.

[FullStop]

purolator oil filters are cheap and very reliable, because they've been around forever, people tend to take them for granted. I would rate the purolators on par with most oem oil filters. Of course, that is with following the specified oil drain interval for the particular filter.


fram is cheap rubbish btw, I would not buy a product claimed manufactured in the USA but not for resale in the USA

[NR8]

Who is the local distributor for Purolator btw?

[intelMAX]

Yep, those fram filters are made very cheaply, and can cost you more in the long run

the purolators are a far better choice, better construction and relatively cheap.

[intelMAX]

Who is the local distributor for Purolator btw?

Tracmac Engineering Ltd. (665 5555)

I think, not 100% sure

[joe_d_boss]

I have heard so many bad reviews about Fram filters, that I figured obviously there is truth to it. Looking at the cardboard construction, it is only obvious that they can easily run into problems. From what I have seen, Purolator oil filters are actually pretty good, especially considering the price.

[NR8]

Thanks intelMAX.

What are your views on the Luberfiner brand of oil filters guys? Been using them for about 2 years without problems.

[FullStop]

Thanks intelMAX.

What are your views on the Luberfiner brand of oil filters guys? Been using them for about 2 years without problems.

Luberfiner and Purolator are almost identical in construction. Both are great filters. I took apart a luberfiner as well, just cant find the pic i took of it.

[hindian]

What about the K&N brand of oil filters? Anybody had experience with those? I understand they have a longer service period somewhere around 10k miles or so...

[FullStop]

What about the K&N brand of oil filters? Anybody had experience with those? I understand they have a longer service period somewhere around 10k miles or so...

In that price range, the undisputed best filter is the royal purple filter.

[cinco]

Luberfiner with 6k on it

[toyolink]

I am observing a couple of filter bursted open on this thread and really cannot figure out much.
The question I would like answered is apart from the obvious (paper vs more durable looking material),how can anyone determine the efficiency of any of the products being pronounced upon.
What is the physical durability of the internal filter membrance in terms of continuous filtration operations under high operating temps and our love locally to run heavy viscosity oils like 20w-50 etc.
It appears to me that most people are just going on gut instinct and this cannot be a prudent approach to asset protection.

[cinco]

I am observing a couple of filter bursted open on this thread and really cannot figure out much.
The question I would like answered is apart from the obvious (paper vs more durable looking material),how can anyone determine the efficiency of any of the products being pronounced upon.
What is the physical durability of the internal filter membrance in terms of continuous filtration operations under high operating temps and our love locally to run heavy viscosity oils like 20w-50 etc.
It appears to me that most people are just going on gut instinct and this cannot be a prudent approach to asset protection.

there is no need for anything more than that basically.
i use purolater or luberfiner filters if i cant get oem basically.
in my experience the fram filter casing is even weaker than the purolater/luberfiner the internal membrane looks cheaper and things like a less pronounced anti drainback valve and oil bypass using simple mechanical understanding is what i go by.
which is basically my "gut instinct"
when a purolater filter is 20-25 dollars as opposed to same or more for a fram filter its more than enough for me to stick with the puro.
And well when i buy my amsoil i get a free luberfiner filter from big z

[BrotherHood]

I am observing a couple of filter bursted open on this thread and really cannot figure out much.
The question I would like answered is apart from the obvious (paper vs more durable looking material),how can anyone determine the efficiency of any of the products being pronounced upon.
What is the physical durability of the internal filter membrance in terms of continuous filtration operations under high operating temps and our love locally to run heavy viscosity oils like 20w-50 etc.
It appears to me that most people are just going on gut instinct and this cannot be a prudent approach to asset protection.

there is no need for anything more than that basically.
i use purolater or luberfiner filters if i cant get oem basically.
in my experience the fram filter casing is even weaker than the purolater/luberfiner the internal membrane looks cheaper and things like a less pronounced anti drainback valve and oil bypass using simple mechanical understanding is what i go by.
which is basically my "gut instinct"
when a purolater filter is 20-25 dollars as opposed to same or more for a fram filter its more than enough for me to stick with the puro.
And well when i buy my amsoil i get a free luberfiner filter from big z

x2

[toyolink]

I am not predisposed to protecting assets valued over $100,000 using gut instint and 'looks alright' approach.
Generally I have confidence in equipment recommended by the auto manufacturers and tend to stick with same or in default better eg K&N,TRD etc.
Admittedly the availability of original equipment from dealers leaves a lot to be desired,but this must not drive us to adopt substandard preventative maintenance models.
I view the internal lube activity in an engine to the cardio system we depend on.
...Engine sludge is what plaque is to the blood vessels.....Result creeping death.

[cinco]

Hence why most people are in uproar about fram and no issues wid purolater...
I dunno what u trying to get at tho.
Here is the element of the same used luberfiner filter

[Hook]

I think he's saying that there's nothing scientific about "I've used x filter with no problems" testimonials when you've no real evidence that it's doing what the manufacturer claims other than a seat-of-the-pants judgment call, so he'd rather protect his investment with a top brand filter rather than squabble over which bargain brand is better.

[cinco]

Well im sure all brands oil do the same job so we should all just use np?
Like i said before i hav a peace of mind with usin purolater over fram so its all judgement on my end.
Im sure the fram filter wont still be on the market all these years if it were really terrible

[FullStop]

I am observing a couple of filter bursted open on this thread and really cannot figure out much.
The question I would like answered is apart from the obvious (paper vs more durable looking material),how can anyone determine the efficiency of any of the products being pronounced upon.
What is the physical durability of the internal filter membrance in terms of continuous filtration operations under high operating temps and our love locally to run heavy viscosity oils like 20w-50 etc.
It appears to me that most people are just going on gut instinct and this cannot be a prudent approach to asset protection.

oil filters all have ratings, for instance, the purolator classic is rated at 97.5% efficiency at 20 microns, that is how much of the impurities at size 20 microns and greater it can remove from the oil. People tend to ignore that. Fact is though, oem oil filters arent always great. Manufacturers need to save money and cut costs just like everybody else.

check this site out:
http://filtrationcomparisons.weebly.com ... sults.html

Notice the oem toyota filter actually sacrifices filtration efficiency for flow rate?

[FullStop]

I think he's saying that there's nothing scientific about "I've used x filter with no problems" testimonials when you've no real evidence that it's doing what the manufacturer claims other than a seat-of-the-pants judgment call, so he'd rather protect his investment with a top brand filter rather than squabble over which bargain brand is better.

dont you mean discuss with an open mind and learn?

[Hook]

Naw, I'm certain I typed "squabble".
To date there aren't any locally done flow or filtration tests done on the locally available filters with locally available oils that I'm aware of. So we're just guessing which cheap filters are better, sometimes based on an online comparison.

I've seen enough Fram cutouts online to stay away from it, and from the el cheapo filters available I use Valvoline because it's a reputable brand. Totally unscientific decision there.

Up to recently I was considering bringing in my own OEM or TRD filters to use with the long drain interval oil, but I think I prefer the peace of mind that comes with putting in fresh filtration every 5000km. So three filters per oil change at $25 a pop doesn't bother me as much as a soggy $75 filter that's been in there half the year. Again, totally unscientific decision.

[belalegosi]

Note the bypass relief pressure for the oil filter you choose. Micron count is only one aspect of the filter characteristic.
Some cars are more sensitive than others. For my "weekend warrior" I use cheap purolators or supertech... I avoid fram at all costs.
Supertech is actually a good quality filter. Their oil is great too! I used it all the time when wally world sold it.

For my Subbie I use the dealer "blue" filter.

[FullStop]

Naw, I'm certain I typed "squabble".
To date there aren't any locally done flow or filtration tests done on the locally available filters with locally available oils that I'm aware of. So we're just guessing which cheap filters are better, sometimes based on an online comparison.

did you click on the blue text that i posted? cus if you did you'd see the comparative data.

[Rory Phoulorie]

I used Fram once (the orange one with the black textured grip at the end) when the parts place did not have Purolator in stock. It leaked immediately. I went and found a Purolator, put it on and no leak at all.

I used Purolator filters with mineral oil in two cars (bought brand new) and they went about 230,000km and 285,000km before they began burning oil at a rate of about 1L every 5,000km. The oil in both cars used to be changed at 5,000km intervals.

Now I have even less free time on my hands and I have switched to using a "full synthetic" oil which I change every 10,000km. I now use Bosch Distance Plus oil filters which claim 99.9% efficiency which I replace at each oil change.

[Morpheus]

Have used FRAM for 4 years. No problems. My car uses the slimmer short filter which I cant seems to be able to find in other brands.
I recently got a K&N with the correct diameter but it too long for my liking(almost level with the oil pan).
Was studying to go back FRAM but this thread have me worried. ??: