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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby IvanTerrors » April 29th, 2013, 7:35 am

Btw any of the pics you posted is of the bracket


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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » April 29th, 2013, 10:16 am

Nah...the bracket is much smaller...shorter also....didn't take a picture.....the air conditioning compressor will be bolting directly to the block now instead of the bracket...

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby IvanTerrors » April 29th, 2013, 1:08 pm

Ok ok thanks very much for the info



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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby IvanTerrors » April 29th, 2013, 5:28 pm

Ok I got it
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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » April 29th, 2013, 6:33 pm

Yeah..that's it...bolt that to the block...install a.c compressor...your good to go

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby IvanTerrors » April 30th, 2013, 1:37 pm

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This wasn't as hard as I thought. Once you got the right tools you're good too go. Works like a charm now and only cost $410, $300 for the bracket and 109 for the belt. This is a great DIY project. Only prob now is that you have the 4wd light on in the dash board but that's sum you could live with, instead of the unbearable noise of a generator gone bad. Thanks Densil.


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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » April 30th, 2013, 4:07 pm

Great job man...glad to help

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby IvanTerrors » April 30th, 2013, 7:13 pm

No prob.


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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby rocknrolla » June 3rd, 2013, 12:35 am

Densil wrote:what I end up doing was this......I condemned the four wheel electronic thing... doing some research..I have a hr15de engine... went down to bicks... looked at a hr15 engine.... took the engine belt, the manual adjustable pulley with the engine bracket......( the hr15de engine has a self tensioner pulley that cost $3700) came back home removed the alternator, removed the ac compressor, removed the old self tensioning pulley and the entire old bracket... mounted the new manual tensioner with bracket, the ac compressor and alternator back up to the engine with the new shorter belt..... and wala... converted the engine to a 2we... works like a charm now...I spent $1000tt..... on the foreign used parts... did all the work myself.. took 2 hours... engine was hot....lol... couldn't wait for it to cool down.... the only issue now is that the 4wd light on the dash is illuminated constantly...I could live with that... better than buying a part for $3700 .... never used the 4wd anyways... so no loss here...... so basically there three pulleys doing nothing...I removed the other two that were just free wheelers.. they were attached to the bracket I removed and at the bottom of the ac compressor.....oh..I forgot to mention... the$1000 was for the belt.. the bracket... the pulley and finally the alternator... which cost the bulk of the money... so technically if u don't need the alternator like me ( alternator needed changing)it would have cost about $400... even better


cool project man. the dash light might be just a wire that needs to disconnect. ill see if i come across anything relating to that.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby rocknrolla » June 3rd, 2013, 12:39 am

also if anyone having trouble finding parts for their tiida i might be able to help them source it. pm me for more info.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby y12noob » May 15th, 2015, 10:32 pm

Where did you buy the manual tensioner

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby terique » December 17th, 2015, 12:14 am

Anybody cud help me with this. Generator making real noise. Pm me plz

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 17th, 2015, 7:17 am

Debe at a foreign used place... Bics is the place

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 17th, 2015, 7:18 am

You can.disconnect it and convert the system to the small manual belt and tensioner

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby terique » December 19th, 2015, 1:52 am

Densil. I wanna do that today. I started getting problems with the 4wd pulley. Paid $1000 and changed it not even two months ago and now the generator itself giving trouble. I feel I ready to convert because is that and now the water pump making noise and I'm hearing that can't be repaired it has to be replaced.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 19th, 2015, 8:39 am

Sorry to hear that man..hope you get the manual tensioner and belt to do the conversion..shouldn't be hard to find

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby IvanTerrors » December 20th, 2015, 12:44 pm

Buy the bracket for the 2wd remove the 4wd bracket also the alternator will have to come off. Replace with the 2wd and bolt back up the alternator by a 2wd belt upkeep sum I think and you're good to go you'll just end up with the 4wd light staying on.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Jasonrs » December 21st, 2015, 2:02 pm

Hey guys i know this is an old thread.. but im in need of some advice on this same problem with the generator pulley sticking and causing the tensioner to rattle. I tried the conversion but used the my same alternator and it didn't line up properly with the other pulleys. The mistake i made was not taking the altenator from the 2wd hr15. I only realised it after i returned the bracket and belt to the foreign used place and was lucky to get my money back. I also got some advice from a mechanic working in massy and he said that even if i did use the altenator from the 2wd the car would eventually cut off since the 4wd is wired to the epc which im assuming is the same as ecu. So before i go and do the conversion again i want to know how it's still working for you guys. And instead of changing the bracket could i just use a shorter belt and leave out the generator and the pulley below it and just use the pulley infront of the generator basically keeping the same belt layout.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 21st, 2015, 3:07 pm

The car well not cut off..it will work fine.. He eh know what he talking about. And you can't just use the shorter belt....you need the bracket etc

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Jasonrs » December 22nd, 2015, 12:34 am

Thanks for replying. Glad to hear it still works. Also is it that the pulley actually sticks or is it more likely the generator it self is sticking and is there a way to just let it freewheel? And how come the 4wd light doesn't come on when it does stick. I find it weird that if there is something wrong with the generator or just the pulley the light on the dash would come on but it never does

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 22nd, 2015, 1:12 am

I think it's probably the generator... I could be wrong.. But after the conversion..It will be free wheeling... The belt does not go on the generator

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Jasonrs » December 22nd, 2015, 7:18 am

Can you give me an idea why when i tried the conversion it didn't work the altenator seemed to be a slight bit sticking out more than the other pulleys. But the belt that i got from the 2wd hr15 fit perfectly on my alternator and everything else such as ac and crank pulleys. The only thing is the belt just had a slight twist and would jump off the ac compressor by one groove. Was i supposed to use the altenator from the 2wd hr15 even though it had the same amount of grooves as my alternator.. because what i noticed too was my alternator had basically no play at all on the 4wd bracket it was hard to get off and even harder to get on .but on the 2wd bracket it wasn’t as hard it could just slip on and off it didn't have any kind of play but was alot easier to move around on the 2wd bracket.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 22nd, 2015, 7:59 am

You should probably try the 2wd alternator. Line up both and compare the distance outside the car too see if there is any difference in the pulley width etc. Carry your alternator to the forget used place and compare it before you buy it. Can't say why the belt slacker.. Have you tensioned it all the way? The 4wd Belt is Longer and with the auto tensioner, is a lot harder to take off. The 2wd. Belt With manual tensioner well always be easier. It could be that it's a stretched belt you have or it needs tensioning more. Hard to say

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 22nd, 2015, 8:02 am

I no longer have the tiida.. So I can't really check it to compare...But I had to changed my alternator because it had different grooves.(amount) some ppl didn't seem to have that problem. Maybe someone else can comment about the alternator

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Jasonrs » December 22nd, 2015, 6:21 pm

As far as i could see the belt had alot of tension i tried it a couple times and on each start up you see the belt shift as soon as the engine cranks. but you could see the belt had a slight twist especially from the alternator pulley to the water pump pulley..Thanks for all your help.. its greatly appreciated. I will try and get some more info on the altenator.

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Densil » December 22nd, 2015, 6:29 pm

Ok then..it sounds as though the alternator is the only problem now..just try another one..And see if the belt stops slipping

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby Jasonrs » January 2nd, 2016, 5:28 pm

Ok so i did some research on the pulley.. apparently the 2wd uses a normal pulley on the alternator and the e4wd uses the clutch pulley... and from what i read on this thread is that the altenator and generator pulleys are the same? Can you confirm this...

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby terique » January 10th, 2016, 10:58 pm

Hey. i did the conversion. What you need to do is get the pulley for the 2wd generator. you dont need to buy the whole geenrator. The problem is that the 4wd pulley as a wider space on it rather than the 2wd so you just need to get that. i did that and my problem was fixed. all i have now is the 4wd light constantly on but i can definitely live with that. all i need now is a water pump and someone good with suspensions from south

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby terique » January 10th, 2016, 10:58 pm

Hey. i did the conversion. What you need to do is get the pulley for the 2wd generator. you dont need to buy the whole geenrator. The problem is that the 4wd pulley as a wider space on it rather than the 2wd so you just need to get that. i did that and my problem was fixed. all i have now is the 4wd light constantly on but i can definitely live with that. all i need now is a water pump and someone good with suspensions from south

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Re: Tiida 2006 e-4wd Generator Problem

Postby terique » January 10th, 2016, 10:58 pm

Hey. i did the conversion. What you need to do is get the pulley for the 2wd generator. you dont need to buy the whole geenrator. The problem is that the 4wd pulley as a wider space on it rather than the 2wd so you just need to get that. i did that and my problem was fixed. all i have now is the 4wd light constantly on but i can definitely live with that. all i need now is a water pump and someone good with suspensions from south

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