The TriniTuner 2008 F1 Season Thread

[Maserati]

^sigh..before my time. even the monster V10's are gone now.......lol but true if they did that these days they would get the book thrown at them by the FIA

[Silvermike]

oh god, not more hamilton senna conparisons.

please. senna was a legend. stop slandering his name!

[worksux101]

^lol ent...the man not even in his first season and literally threw away the championship in his first in a car superior (and illegal) for most of the yr..give Senna and co a break...

yunno today FIA wud proolly penalize both Hamilton and Massa if that happened

happened in a race 2 yrs ago..can't rembr who...
Also a few yrs ago Schummi gave Mika a tow back when his engine went on one of the last laps of i think the Spa gp...happened once or twice that i can remember since....

[Maserati]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 603179.stm

McLaren have lodged an appeal against the punishment that stripped Lewis Hamilton of his Belgian Grand Prix win.

[Monk BANzai]

^lol ent...the man not even in his first season and literally threw away the championship in his first in a car superior (and illegal) for most of the yr..give Senna and co a break...

yunno today FIA wud proolly penalize both Hamilton and Massa if that happened

happened in a race 2 yrs ago..can't rembr who...
Also a few yrs ago Schummi gave Mika a tow back when his engine went on one of the last laps of i think the Spa gp...happened once or twice that i can remember since....

yeh buh at least Hammie has brought some sense of 'entertainment" back to a "bore boer..ferrari one to..bore bore..." sport..


BUH AYE AYE!!! look even Niki Lauda have something to say bout the "ruling"...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/09/09 ... index.html

assinine drive yes...buh to hand down a 25 secodn penalty man?......

[worksux101]

^So far a few drivers have spoken out against it, including anti-ferrari trulli...
Not the ruling..hammy's move...the general concensus among the drivers seem to be...

Incidents like this have often been discussed in the official driver briefings when it has been made absolutely clear that anyone cutting a chicane has to fully restore the position and also any other eventual advantage gained.


"If Lewis had taken the chicane correctly, he would never have been able to pass Kimi on the very short straight that follows it. That was my immediate opinion after seeing the replay.


"Maybe if Lewis had waited and tried to pass on the next straight, that would have been a different matter."

Its not about making the sport interesting...that's easy to do and comes down to the track...one like Spa is sure to be exciting as well as Monza and co...other won't be often regardless of who is driving...

[worksux101]

assinine drive yes...buh to hand down a 25 secodn penalty man?......

Btw i agree....i don't think he deserved that penalty...esp as its more or less the first time that offense has been committed recently...i think the 10 grid spots in the enxt race is more fitting just for the drivers to be aware that it will be punished in the future.

[Silvermike]

^ i dont think any other drivers stabbed someone on the starting grid recently. maybe someone should try to get away with that as well.


the 10 place penalty is generally used for rule braking incidents that didnt directly give race advantage... like when he pulled a trini drive and say "i didnt see the red light officer."

in this case, his illegal action gave him direct race advantage, so he was penalized in the said race.

[djaggs]

Well, at the end of the day, we all know that the odds are stacked against McLaren since most decisions always go against them. Ferrari is boss yes, dem rule. FIA and Ferrari in bed long tiom now.

I remember all the sheit Schumacher used to do and he used to get away with it. He wasnt what youd call the cleanest driver out there even though he was a cut above the rest.

[Silvermike]

but MSC did get disqualified from the drivers championship a year.

McLaren's drivers were allowed to compete for the drivers championship in an illegal car last year.

Connections can always be made if u set out to make them.

[djaggs]

^^ wow..i have never seen that clip....thats a tear jerker for a F1 PEONG like me!!!....Senna getting a ride back to the pits in Mansells car... yunno today FIA wud proolly penalize both Hamilton and Massa if that happened......

Actually, if that happened today Hamilton would probably be penalised, for sure.

[Silvermike]

^ only if he sits on a ferrari. haha

lame...

[worksux101]

McLaren's drivers were allowed to compete for the drivers championship in an illegal car last year.

How dare you insinuate a decision did not go ferrari's way

[Silvermike]

^ well too be fair, they did make sure hamilton crashed a stupid amount of times in the last 2 races to ensure ferrari did win.

[Maserati]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 612545.stm

Ferrari have extended world champion Kimi Raikkonen's contract to the end of the 2010 season, ending speculation about the Finn's future at the team.

Raikkonen's deal had been due to end at the end of 2009, and there had been reports that Fernando Alonso was set to replace him either then or next year.

But Ferrari said in a statement on Friday that their line-up would remain unchanged for the next two seasons.

Raikkonen's team-mate Felipe Massa also has a contract until 2010.

[Maserati]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 612205.stm

Kimi Raikkonen celebrated signing a new Ferrari contract by setting the fastest time in Friday practice at the Italian Grand Prix.

The world champion, whose deal has been extended by a year to the end of 2010, narrowly beat BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica in a largely dry session.

As sunshine replaced the morning's torrential rain, the Finn beat Kubica by 0.070 seconds with a 1:23.861 lap.

Nick Heidfeld was third for BMW Sauber ahead of McLaren's Lewis Hamilton.

McLaren had been expected to have the edge over Ferrari at the high-speed Monza circuit because of the silver cars' greater ability to ride the kerbs, a vital characteristic at the historic track.

But Raikkonen appeared the most consistently competitive driver on Friday, emerging as the fastest man at various points throughout the 90-minute afternoon session.

His team-mate Felipe Massa, who is Ferrari's main title contender just two points behind Hamilton, was 0.386 secs off Raikkonen's pace in sixth place.

Both Hamilton and team-mate Heikki Kovalainen appeared to be on course to beat Raikkonen's time at the end of the session.

But after setting the pace for the first two-thirds of the lap, they both lost time in the final sector, which comprises two long straights and the demanding, high-speed Parabolica corner.

Hamilton ended up 0.122 secs slower than Raikkonen and just ahead of Williams driver Nico Rosberg.

Instead, Raikkonen underlined his form with a final lap that was just 0.02secs slower than his fastest.

The pace of the BMWs suggests that they may be able to challenge the top two teams in the race on Sunday.

Monza share similar characteristics to Montreal, where Kubica won in June.

His victory came as a result of a collision between Hamilton and Raikkonen in the pits, but BMW were closer to the top teams in Canada than they have been at any track since.

Friday's first practice session was rendered meaningless by a massive thunderstorm that soaked the circuit and flooded some of the garages and commentary booths.

Hamilton had not even bothered to leave the pits when light rain turned into a torrential downpour with 20 minutes of the session remaining.

That brought all the cars in to the pits and effectively ended the session.

In an echo of his performance in the wet British Grand Prix, Massa went off the track five times in his Ferrari and was slowest of the cars who did manage some flying laps.

The forecast is for more rain off and on during the weekend.

If there is a wet race, conditions will dramatically favour McLaren as the Ferrari's relatively light treatment of its tyres means they struggle in mixed conditions compared to their rivals.

Second practice times in Monza:

1. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 1m 23.861

2. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:23.931

3. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:23.947

4. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.983

5. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams-Toyota 1:24.110

6. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari 1:24.247

7. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.365

8. Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull-Renault 1:24.521

9. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Force India-Ferrari 1:24.669

10. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:24.773

11. David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Renault 1:25.100

12. Sebastien Bourdais (Fra) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:25.192

13. Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Force India-Ferrari 1:25.204

14. Rubens Barrichello (Brzl) Honda 1:25.296

15. Jenson Button (GB) Honda 1:25.309

16. Kazuki Nakajima (Jpn) Williams-Toyota 1:25.330

17. Timo Glock (Ger) Toyota 1:25.397

18. Fernando Alonso (Spa) Renault 1:25.481

19. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:25.753

20. Nelson Piquet (Brz) Renault 1:26.195

First practice times:

1. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Force India- Ferrari 1m 32.842s

2. Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Honda 1:33.428

3. Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Force India-Ferrari 1:33.695

4. Timo Glock (Ger) Toyota 1:36.800

5. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams-Toyota 1:36.900

6. Fernando Alonso (Spn) Renault 1:36.965

7. Sebastien Bourdais (Fra) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.142

8. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:37.214

9. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 1:37.392

10. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:37.754

11. Nelson Piquet (Brz) Renault 1:38.057

12. David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Renault 1:38.303

13. Jenson Button (GB) Honda 1:39.062

14. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari 1:40.233

15. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber

16. Kazuki Nakajima (Jpn) Williams-Toyota

17. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber

18. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes

19. Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull-Renault

20. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes

[Richard]

Hamilton and Raikkonen fail to make it out of Q2, Vettel in P1 after Q2, Massa in P10

Rain Rain and more Rain

1st time ever Hamilton fails to qualify

[Richard]

Final Q

1. Vettel
2. Kov

6. Massa

And the race for the championshipis on

[eLEVated CVT]

Vettel ...youngest pole sitter ever!!!! Bourdais P4 Toro Rosso gettin orn

[Silvermike]

point to note, kimi was lapping in the 37's when hami was in the 39's under the same conditions.

if its rain tomorrow there will be mayhem.

[Maserati]

damn
that I didn't expect.
can't wait

[worksux101]

rotfl...for a man that's supposed to be so good in the rain...exceptionally funny that both Kimi and Massa among so many other bettered his time in the same conditions towards the end of the session....

[Swifted]

didn't Hamilton have on the inters? hence the slower times?

[Richard]

What a race tomorrow from P14 and P15

great drive by the Torro Rosso pair great battles ahead boys

[Richard]

didn't Hamilton have on the inters? hence the slower times?

big mistake given the conditions at the start of P2, by the time he had switched it was too late

[Monk BANzai]

rotfl...for a man that's supposed to be so good in the rain...exceptionally funny that both Kimi and Massa among so many other bettered his time in the same conditions towards the end of the session....

oh shaddap!!!....gawd man!!


but as usual...he stars dong teh grid..lets see how he fares eh!!

[worksux101]

oh shaddap!!!....gawd man!!

You should prolly take ur own advice...ur always going on about him, but when he does sheit you stay quiet?

didn't Hamilton have on the inters? hence the slower times?

he and Massa were running at the same time on the same wet tires...massa made it to p10, hamilton didn't improve...

[Maserati]

race starts 8am if I am not mistaken

[Richard]

alarm set

[Monk BANzai]

oh shaddap!!!....gawd man!!

You should prolly take ur own advice...ur always going on about him, but when he does sheit you stay quiet?

didn't Hamilton have on the inters? hence the slower times?

he and Massa were running at the same time on the same wet tires...massa made it to p10, hamilton didn't improve...

hahahahah nah.. whe nhee do he sheit i does talk....is allyuh prancing horsie fans that does stay queit when "big daddy Ferrari palce a call to Max Mosley.." hehehehehhe

Hammie had an off day.....like how massa and dem other ha...(police pulls up outside house...taken into custody)

ah watch the clip that SIlver mike posted..hadda give Massa props for tryign to keep car control after hammie hit him...but b4 that...hammie drove like a beast to ketch him in the wet....ADMIT IT NAH?!?!!