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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby RIPEBREDFRUIT » July 9th, 2012, 10:16 am

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby djaggs » July 11th, 2012, 2:55 pm

Mark Webber a major title contender - Jaime Alguersuari
BBC....

There is no doubt that Mark Webber is back as a major contender for the Formula 1 championship after his victory in the British Grand Prix on Sunday.

When Webber struggled in 2011 while team-mate Sebastian Vettel dominated, lots of people wrote him off and said that 2010 was his last chance to win the title. So they have been surprised that he is competitive again this year.

But it is the other way around for me - I was surprised by last year. Webber has always been a very good, fast driver.

Even though I was driving for Red Bull's sister team Toro Rosso last year, I have no idea why 2011 went the way it did for Webber.

It's very difficult for anyone outside a Formula 1 team to know why one driver is struggling compared with another.

But Webber is experienced in Formula 1 and that is a big factor when it comes to being successful.


Highlights - British Grand Prix
He has been there for many years and has driven for many teams. He knows the people very well, and how they work, and his position at Red Bull is perfect for him.

Webber knows how to deal with every single situation in which he finds himself in the team. He got his opportunity at Silverstone and he got the maximum out of it.

He demonstrated in 2010 that he could fight for the championship and he is showing it again now.

You never know what can happen through the year but he is doing a good job, in second place behind Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, and he has managed each race very well.

As I have said in this column before, you're going to need consistency to win this championship, not just race victories. The key is to get the maximum out of every situation and keep on scoring points.

And the two most consistent drivers so far are in first and second places in the championship.

TITLE RACE CHANGING
The last two races in Britain and Valencia have changed the shape of the championship battle. Before then, it was wide open. Now, it seems to be between Alonso and the Red Bull drivers.

They are not only the teams who have been most consistent since the start of the year, they are also the ones who have made most progress - especially Ferrari and Alonso, who is having a fantastic season.

But Alonso has his work cut out because Red Bull are on a slightly higher level than Ferrari, especially in the slow-speed corners.


Alonso's mixed feelings over result
The car upgrade Red Bull introduced in Valencia is a fantastic system, with the exhausts helping air blow through a hole in the floor. It is giving them so much downforce - and it is especially effective at low speed, with braking and traction.

McLaren, meanwhile, have fallen back.

Because of various operational problems, they did not make the most of having the best car at the start of the season and now they are paying the price for that.

There is still a long way to go. The next race in Germany marks the mid-point of the season and a lot can still happen.

But right now, in terms of consistency and performance, you would have to put your money on Ferrari and definitely Red Bull.

MYSTIFIED BY MCLAREN
It's difficult to be exactly sure what has gone wrong for McLaren so quickly.

Four races ago in Spain, on a track that has similar characteristics to Silverstone, Lewis Hamilton was on pole by more than half a second before he got a grid penalty following a team error.

Yet at Silverstone McLaren were struggling for pace.

At least part of it is down to some misunderstanding of the tyres. That's especially the case for Jenson Button, but Hamilton was also struggling with tyre temperatures at the weekend.

At the start of the season, when we went to Australia and saw both McLarens on the front row, I was convinced this would be their season. The cars just looked fantastic out on the track.

It was obvious even then that this season would be about consistency and I thought Button was the favourite because he always tends to get the maximum out of what he can without making too many mistakes.

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McLaren duo on disappointing day
But now Button is really struggling and McLaren have slipped back in terms of performance.

They still often look quick in Friday practice, but then they are struggling on Saturdays and Sundays - to the extent that I am beginning to wonder whether they are running the cars with less fuel than other teams on Fridays.

Following the race in Spain, McLaren have been very inconsistent. They were OK in Monaco, the fastest in Canada, and have now struggled in both Valencia and Silverstone.

It appears as if they are lacking aerodynamic downforce in all conditions.

In Canada, you need a good engine - the Mercedes that McLaren use is the best - and not much downforce.

But in Valencia you need more downforce in the slow corners, as well as good traction, while Silverstone requires efficient high-speed downforce. And in both races they struggled.

They also need to look at Ferrari and Alonso and learn the lessons that even if your car is not the quickest at a given race you have to get the most out of it. Scoring consistent points is critical.

McLaren have lost a lot of ground to Ferrari and Red Bull, both in terms of performance and points, but they are a great team and have demonstrated in the past they can improve their car very quickly. So I wouldn't write them off just yet.

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby Victory_Specification » July 12th, 2012, 3:27 am

^ great intro for this clip. (from last season, but still - you get to know the driver, which in F1 at least adds another dimension to the sport)


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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby MG Man » July 12th, 2012, 9:21 am

great drve by Alonso, but I'd like to see Weber take the championship this year

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 12th, 2012, 9:44 am

Victory_Specification wrote:^ great intro for this clip. (from last season, but still - you get to know the driver, which in F1 at least adds another dimension to the sport)




beautiful piece man,just beautiful..

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby Victory_Specification » July 12th, 2012, 10:54 am

MG Man wrote:great drve by Alonso, but I'd like to see Weber take the championship this year


Agreed, but if Ferrari keep their pace up I wouldn't be surprised if Alonso actually does take it. If one of the Mclaren boys don't take it this year I really do hope Webber does - especially after the last two seasons of playing second fiddle to Vettel.

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby MG Man » July 12th, 2012, 10:57 am

yup
Weber's career reminds me of Coulthard.........one of the world champions who never won a world champion

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby JoKeR1980 » July 18th, 2012, 8:26 am

Sebastian Vettel admits he is flattered by reports that Luca di Montezemolo sees him as a possible Ferrari driver, but insists he has no agreement with the Italian squad.

The double World Champion has been strongly linked with a move to Ferrari in recent months with some reports even suggestion he already has a verbal agreement with the team.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/79060 ... th-Ferrari

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby adriano7910 » July 18th, 2012, 9:19 am

5 germans one german track. will a german win.............

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 18th, 2012, 10:46 am

a finn on the top podium

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby MG Man » July 18th, 2012, 11:50 am

roadracer7 wrote:a finn on the top podium


I can just hear him at the post race interview
"we hev gud race........tenks to der teem for der hard work. These gaiz gave gud fight, we win....tenks"

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby janfar » July 18th, 2012, 12:14 pm

MG Man wrote:
roadracer7 wrote:a finn on the top podium


I can just hear him at the post race interview
"we hev gud race........tenks to der teem for der hard work. These gaiz gave gud fight, we win....tenks"


Vitaly Petrov is not a Finn

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby MichaelR » July 19th, 2012, 8:06 pm

This Codemasters game looks fun, I would probably say it looks like crap if I didnt know how well sorted their F1 2011 was. Now some of the drivers' heads match the size of their ego. haha

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby Victory_Specification » July 19th, 2012, 8:50 pm

JoKeR1980 wrote:Sebastian Vettel admits he is flattered by reports that Luca di Montezemolo sees him as a possible Ferrari driver, but insists he has no agreement with the Italian squad.

The double World Champion has been strongly linked with a move to Ferrari in recent months with some reports even suggestion he already has a verbal agreement with the team.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/79060 ... th-Ferrari




I doubt. Alonso AND Vettel in the same team? Actually, I would love to see this happen, might be more entertaining than the 2007 season, let the baccanal unfold.

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 19th, 2012, 11:09 pm

''GO Lotus GO''

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 19th, 2012, 11:11 pm

janfar wrote:
MG Man wrote:
roadracer7 wrote:a finn on the top podium


I can just hear him at the post race interview
"we hev gud race........tenks to der teem for der hard work. These gaiz gave gud fight, we win....tenks"


Vitaly Petrov is not a Finn



lost in translation ''tenks''



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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby JoKeR1980 » July 21st, 2012, 8:02 am

Qualifying coming up!

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby JoKeR1980 » July 21st, 2012, 8:34 am

lawd rain atthe start of Q2 makes things all that more interesting

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby adriano7910 » July 21st, 2012, 8:35 am

is like rain in f1 mandatory now

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby JoKeR1980 » July 21st, 2012, 8:49 am

Massa and Rosberg out in Q2

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby JoKeR1980 » July 21st, 2012, 9:03 am

Pole for Alonso!!!!!!

*dances in the rain*

Alonso, Vettel, Webber, Schumie, Nico, Maldo, Button, Hami, di Rest, Kimi.

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby Victory_Specification » July 21st, 2012, 4:56 pm

wdmc. how MB jump so far ahead of mclaren?

anyhow, sunday is what matters.

With the turbo engines coming the following season, I guess we might be riding onboard hearing something similar to this.

Jump to 2:15


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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 22nd, 2012, 2:31 am

Victory_Specification wrote:wdmc. how MB jump so far ahead of mclaren?

anyhow, sunday is what matters.

With the turbo engines coming the following season, I guess we might be riding onboard hearing something similar to this.

Jump to 2:15



like riding a wet f.rt

please bring back the V10

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 22nd, 2012, 11:24 am

alonso wins German GP
vettel
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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby roadracer7 » July 22nd, 2012, 11:59 am

webber still in 2 nd place in driver's standings

raikkonen leaps hammi into 4 th driver's standings

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby MichaelR » July 22nd, 2012, 1:55 pm

Only saw the last 20 laps. The highlight for me was hearing vettel and button talking about the controversial pass for second when they first saw each other after getting out of the cars. It seemed to me that vettel had 2 choices, be on the rumble strips or go off track for more grip and a wider exit so he could put the power down off the corner, and he made his decision. I not buying vettel's explanation that he didnt know if button was next to him so he went off to get clear. Just like he claimed he thought button was behind at the start of the Japanese GP 2011 so when he blocked him onto the grass. Button stays more reserved, opting to not comment on the podium about the incident. I think it wasnt a fair overtake. Just saw that the stewards hit vettel a 20 second penalty so he ends up 5th. I think that was the right decision. The interviews on the podium done by niki lauda were a great idea.



This is the one from 2011:

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby JoKeR1980 » July 22nd, 2012, 2:13 pm

yeah it was the right decision...I myself don't the buy the "i didn't see him so I tried to give more room" story...he should've given back the spot and take his 3rd and chill

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Re: The Official 2012 Formula 1 season..ched

Postby turbohead » July 22nd, 2012, 4:30 pm

i call it a BS call.... the man send the man off the track on teh corner after he pass him and wana complain when he stick it to him..*rant

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