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agent007 wrote:Bug, a used 2019 RAV4 will still not be cheap. Depending on the grade, the market value can start in the high 2’s and make its way into the 300k+ category. With roughly 1 year warranty remaining, you need to consider if this represents value to you. If it is then fix up.
Pariaman, as we would have discussed at length before ITT, I think the main concern is if those engines has been specifically tuned/mapped for our grade of diesel as per TTTL logic, hence we get the lower output version of the 2.8 from the firm.
David, Bess motors and roro importers brought in some Koreans before from Singapore.
Coming back to pickups, I really cannot close my eyes like I would have in the past and purchase a Hilux whether from TTTL or a grey market dealer when the Frontier and D-Max exists. I have my reservations on that new Mitsubishi 2.4 but I know pretty much all of us will agree that the Nissan YD25 can take licks.
I also am curious about that 1.9.kamakazi wrote:Sometimes the only time you hear people is when they complaining about something. Then again how people run or service their vehicle varies.
Those yd25 engines are not reliable in my book. Might have to talk to the persons that have to service them.
I like the look of the new Isuzu over its Mazda brother. Really interested to know how that 1.9 performs and holds up to the usage locally.agent007 wrote:Bug, a used 2019 RAV4 will still not be cheap. Depending on the grade, the market value can start in the high 2’s and make its way into the 300k+ category. With roughly 1 year warranty remaining, you need to consider if this represents value to you. If it is then fix up.
Pariaman, as we would have discussed at length before ITT, I think the main concern is if those engines has been specifically tuned/mapped for our grade of diesel as per TTTL logic, hence we get the lower output version of the 2.8 from the firm.
David, Bess motors and roro importers brought in some Koreans before from Singapore.
Coming back to pickups, I really cannot close my eyes like I would have in the past and purchase a Hilux whether from TTTL or a grey market dealer when the Frontier and D-Max exists. I have my reservations on that new Mitsubishi 2.4 but I know pretty much all of us will agree that the Nissan YD25 can take licks.
I have owned five vehicles thus far, all foreign used, including a hybrid and a limited edition sport model. Maybe I have been lucky, but with proper maintenance, I have never had any serious defects or issues. Personally I think the warranty that the dealers offer are basically a red herring to entice you since you are limited in your use of your vehicle. Even if I had the means, I will prefer the foreign vehicle for the features and safety.agent007 wrote:Agreed but one thing though, money saved from going grey market/roro is a slowly dying phrase.
There is a big grey market dealer in Central selling a 2019 Toyota Corolla Fielder WXB non hybrid for $170k. Mileage is pretty low as expected.
LSM on the other hand had a special mere days ago where you can purchase a 2021 Suzuki Baleno GLX for $160k and you get a 5 year, 100,000km warranty vs what 3 months for the Fielder?
Now I’m no huge fan of Suzuki but considering what you get for $160k? That’s not a bad package at all!
From a loan perspective, someone can easier walk away with the Zuki and have a longer period to pay back the loan coupled with a lower interest rate and in many occasions up to 0% down.
The Fielder however, you have a shorter payback period with a higher interest rate with very little support thereafter. I understand these Fielders could be a pain for sourcing of parts and it no longer uses the tried and tested 1NZ-FE engine whereas the Baleno has support from the dealer and little on the aftermarket. Lastly, I expect the resale value of the Fielder to be higher even though it’s not a genuine Corolla imo. It’s basically a Yaris or Aqua wagon.
Anyhow, food for thought.
So at the same price point you are right and there isn't much to argue.agent007 wrote:Agreed but one thing though, money saved from going grey market/roro is a slowly dying phrase.
There is a big grey market dealer in Central selling a 2019 Toyota Corolla Fielder WXB non hybrid for $170k. Mileage is pretty low as expected.
LSM on the other hand had a special mere days ago where you can purchase a 2021 Suzuki Baleno GLX for $160k and you get a 5 year, 100,000km warranty vs what 3 months for the Fielder?
Now I’m no huge fan of Suzuki but considering what you get for $160k? That’s not a bad package at all!
From a loan perspective, someone can easier walk away with the Zuki and have a longer period to pay back the loan coupled with a lower interest rate and in many occasions up to 0% down.
The Fielder however, you have a shorter payback period with a higher interest rate with very little support thereafter. I understand these Fielders could be a pain for sourcing of parts and it no longer uses the tried and tested 1NZ-FE engine whereas the Baleno has support from the dealer and little on the aftermarket. Lastly, I expect the resale value of the Fielder to be higher even though it’s not a genuine Corolla imo. It’s basically a Yaris or Aqua wagon.
Anyhow, food for thought.
once u have your usd & cash do itAnimal Pak wrote:Good day folks.
What do you all think of personal imports as opposed to grey market dealers.
I bought an Axela hatchback from a friend that was his personal import.
He put 50k km.
I put 100k km.
Sold it to a friend that put another 100k km.
Vehicle is still on the road with my friends son driving.
Literally one of the most reliable vehicles I ever owned.
If that was my only experience with grey market I would say hell yes.
I previously bought a vehicle from a dealer. Was not nice.
I would admit the new CTR is growing on meagent007 wrote:2022 Honda Civic now with standard turbo. It got a slight power upgrade too from 170 to 176hp and 220Nm to 240Nm peak torque.
Those numbers are almost equivalent to a Toyota 2.5 inline 4 NA engine.
Jetta TSI, Cruze turbo and to some extent Lancer GT owners, your upgrade has finally arrived (if you sticking to a car of course).
i starting to like the euro look and bigger dimesionsagent007 wrote:^^I like the rake angle of your windshield more. That 22' model seems too abrupt and steep from the bonnet going upwards.
329k for that new civic and that's ' introductory, for that money I'd buy a van or a cx-5. That's crazinesssssssdavid12 wrote:Nissan, Toyota and Honda are generally overpriced because of the name. Honda is more aimed to the luxury side of the market but isn't necessarily a luxury brand.
I recently had to help a family member decide on a new vehicle and we had to go to a brand that we never had in the family before, Subaru. It was either that or a Chevy. In a few years there will be a gradual increase in Korean cars or the not so popular brands on the road. It's already happening.
A Tucson (don't know if butchered that but idc) starts at 250k I think, and it's a pretty safe choice to the average don't know don't care person.
agent007 wrote:These are the most fully loaded versions available locally:
Corolla 1.8 Hybrid at $368k
Civic 1.5T at $329k
Impreza 1.6 at $270k
Elantra 1.6 at $265k
Mazda 3 1.5 at $241k
Cerato 1.6 at $218k
Sentra 1.6 at $210k
See why the Sentra and Cerato sells?
agent007 wrote:These are the most fully loaded versions available locally:
Corolla 1.8 Hybrid at $368k
Civic 1.5T at $329k
Impreza 1.6 at $270k
Elantra 1.6 at $265k
Mazda 3 1.5 at $241k
Cerato 1.6 at $218k
Sentra 1.6 at $210k
See why the Sentra and Cerato sells?
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