WTK about Kano Kroil Penetrating Oil.

[Sanctifier]

I am about to start restorations of a South Bend 13" lathe...


and a DeWalt 1030 Radial Arm Saw...


Both need a lot of TLC.... and $$$$ in order to bring them back to their 'former glory'.

I'm looking for 1 gallon of Kano Kroil Penetrating Oil.
Is it available locally... and from who?

Thanks.

[ImamurA]

I don't think I had ever seen Kano Kroil locally but if you are just looking for a penetrant it wouldnt be expensive to try ATF and acetone 50/50 mix. I remember reading a penetrant comparison from practicalmachinist.com:

OT - Penetrating Oil
In a thread in the antique machinery forum, there was a discussion what to use to free up a part. Southbendmodel34 had mentioned a study in Machinist Workshop stating that Automatic transmission fluid and Acetone mixed was the best.
I just received a newsletter today from Tim Carter mentioning the same study. He had included the results of the test, which I thought interesting.

A study done by Machinist's Workshop magazine in their April 2007 issue looked at different penetrating oils to see which one did the best job of removing a rusted bolt by measuring the pounds of torque required to loosen the bolt once treated. If the study was scientifically accurate, it turns out a home brew works best!
Here's the summary of the test results:

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds
WD-40 ................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster .............. 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............. 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds

[moti]

Nice info there Imamura.

[Sanctifier]

Hi Imamura. Thanks for the feedback. I posted this info too.
BTW there's an UPDATE as well... It's actually Power Steering Fluid that was tested and not ATF.

UPDATE: -

ATF as in Automatic Transmission Fluid?

Yup...

Hi Rory.
Did a check on that info on the D.I.Y. Penetrating Oil... The Author edited the info... It's "Power Steering Fluid" not "ATF" that was used.

February 2, 2008

Machinist's Workshop V20 number 2, April/May 2007, page 35
Article: Testing Penetrating oils.

The table below extracts the results table. The lower the number of pounds the better.
Interesting that a simple mix of acetone and power steering fluid (PSF) works the best!

Penetrating Oil... Average load... Price ($US) per fluid ounce
None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 ................... 238 pounds......... $0.25
PB Blaster .............. 214 pounds......... $0.35
Liquid Wrench ........ 127 pounds......... $0.21
Kano Kroil............... 106 pounds......... $0.75
PSF-Acetone mix........53 pounds......... $0.10 (50/50 mix)

Note from original article author:
1) These are loads required to free the test piece after 8 hours of immersion in penetrating oil.
This is probably not representative of a quick squirt just before a wrench is applied.

2) The original article states ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid)was used in the DIY mix.
It was actually PSF. (Power Steering Fluid.) I corrected the table to reflect this.

� Copyright 8 February 2008, 63Avanti@sterkel.org

Nevertheless, I'm still looking for 1 gallon of Kano Kroil Penetrating Oil.

Any suggestions moti?

[moti]

No suggestions, I normally use either WD40 or a hammer, sometimes both.

Maybe Keith might have something lying around in Master Mix that they may use?
Not sure but worth a shot seeing that they have some heavy machines there that parts may cease due to the conditions they are in.


One time, I got my hands on a tin of this but for some reason it finished and was not able to acquire another since then (maybe because I never really have the need for it).
It worked well, but the severest I ever dealt with was ceased bolts on a battery stand.

[Sanctifier]

Okay... The only Kano Kroil Penetrating Oil that I found so far is on eBay.
Maybe I'll order some... but @ US $101.94 / gal + shipping + local courier charges it will be awhile...
and if there are HASMAT restrictions, it may have to come by sea freight (two weeks.)

Meanwhile I bought a case of Power Steering Fluid (10 x 356 ml) for $204 and 8 x 500 ml Acetone for $188.
I'll mix a sample... test it this weekend and post the results later.