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C33_RB20DET wrote:Now I am aware that many car audio tuners do this by ear and some more than others have it pretty close. However with electronics there is nothing like pretty close, it is DEAD ON EXACT.
Sully wrote:C33_RB20DET wrote:Now I am aware that many car audio tuners do this by ear and some more than others have it pretty close. However with electronics there is nothing like pretty close, it is DEAD ON EXACT.
This is your first mistake right there. You can tune a system with a scope, and an RTA, but it will ALWAYS require adjustment by listening to it and tuning by ear.
It doesn't take an audiophile to hear the difference with poorly recorded formats. You just need to be willing to accept what you hear, and discern the differences albeit subtle. Going in with a bias of "this is an expensive system so it must sound good" is your biggest pitfall.
meccalli wrote:I can't say they mix that hi hat too low so lemme pump 15k to the point where everything is blissfully lispy because it appeals to me.
Firewall wrote:meccalli wrote:I can't say they mix that hi hat too low so lemme pump 15k to the point where everything is blissfully lispy because it appeals to me.
Who do you build your system for if you not tuning to how YOU like the sound?
Firewall wrote:meccalli wrote:I can't say they mix that hi hat too low so lemme pump 15k to the point where everything is blissfully lispy because it appeals to me.
Who do you build your system for if you not tuning to how YOU like the sound?
meccalli wrote:Firewall wrote:meccalli wrote:I can't say they mix that hi hat too low so lemme pump 15k to the point where everything is blissfully lispy because it appeals to me.
Who do you build your system for if you not tuning to how YOU like the sound?
Why do people buy top end studio monitors and headphones? Do they have to tune it to get more bass or some tonal aspect excluding inherent flaws with the actual performance or product. You gotta build it yourself in the auto world and get it to reproduce music true to its intended sound,true transparency- that's just my personal opinion.... after all the goal is listening to music not to audio equipment that can modify music and be a hindrance, that's what the studio is for.
nervewrecker wrote:I used the competition sq systems as a gauge and tweaked mine to suit.
I understand some if not all of them have competition settings and daily. Both are a bit different.
Sully wrote:nervewrecker wrote:I used the competition sq systems as a gauge and tweaked mine to suit.
I understand some if not all of them have competition settings and daily. Both are a bit different.
Not all SQ competition systems are good systems. You should (if the owner allows) take a look at their score sheet to see what areas of the system were good and bad. And ask the owner if the tune that you're listening to is the same as what the car was judged with. I've heard my fair share of vehicles in the competition lanes that doesn't quite make the grade.
As for what you should listen to as a reference, any performance that doesn't go through any sort of amplification or processing. e.g. if you want to know what a guitar sound like, don't listen to a CD, or a concert where it goes though a mixing board. Go listen to a person playing a guitar.
SR wrote:Electronic equipment sucjlh as the industry standard audio control 3056 rta can only go so far as to measuring actual bandwidth of the system but it cant detect distortion. Distortion measurements can be done freq by freq with a scope however its different when reproducing multiple frequencies at the same time
C33_RB20DET wrote:to my surprise if you use enough of the FaitalPros they actually sound pretty loud and clean. Have used B&C before and have to say the Faitals are not that way off for the price.
Sully wrote:C33_RB20DET wrote:to my surprise if you use enough of the FaitalPros they actually sound pretty loud and clean. Have used B&C before and have to say the Faitals are not that way off for the price.
With enough EQ you can make anything have a flat response at a set volume level. Doesn't mean that it's going to be linear though.
Rovin wrote:while doing a search for something i came upon this old topic, look at how discussions were a few yrs ago & tuners who used to be a here that probably dont post anymore, gone to fb, life\family, maybe out of d hobby etc .... d good ol days of d ICE section
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