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whats da difference.....
Posted: April 5th, 2007, 3:48 pm
by honda hoe
between a WRX and an STi

a lotta ppl i ask an d only answer i get is dat d STI faster

Posted: April 6th, 2007, 1:22 am
by Maserati
Posted: April 6th, 2007, 3:36 am
by equipped2ripp
Posted: April 6th, 2007, 7:52 am
by deens-von
1) The STI carries a different block/head design. The WRX has an "open deck design", the STi has a "semi-closed deck" design.
2) The STi runs 18+ psi boost....stock. The WRX runs about 13.5 lbs boost, stock.
SDM WRX = 227 bhp
JDM WRX = 250 bhp
SDM STi = 260 bhp
JDM STi = 280 bhp
3) The STi requires 98 RON octane (untuned), the WRX requires 95 RON.
4) The STi carries a larger turbo, slightly higher compression ratio, for more power.
5) The STi has sodium filled exhaust valves, and valve shims, for faster rev up/down. TYhe STi also has a higher rpm redline.
6) The STi is a 6 speed manual, the WRX is a 5 speed
7) The STi has brembo disk brakes, larger rotors, and thicker axles than the WRX. Also carries a rear LSD (unlike the WRX which has a open rear diff).
8 ) The WRX has a steering ratio of 16.5:1, the STi has a steering ratio of 15:1 (meaning the STi has qucier steering)
9) There are also interior/cosmetic differences as well....
10) STi has a water spray, WRX doesn't.
Suspension:
The STi carries Slightly bigger pink struts and springs. Lowered ride height. Also carries thicker sway bars, and trailing arms. Of course, these suspension options are all direct bolt ons to a WRX.
^^ Thanks to Knight1

Posted: April 8th, 2007, 9:27 am
by Alpha_2nr
^Yeh thanks deens LOL.
Posted: April 8th, 2007, 11:59 am
by MarcusGronholm
6) The STi is a 6 speed manual, the WRX is a 5 speed
So a guy I know has an "STI" automatic tiptronic.......what is that?
Posted: April 8th, 2007, 2:20 pm
by Alpha_2nr
^^^Then it's probably not an STi
It's probably a TS with a STI badge (lots of them out there).
If it is a turbocharged car, then it's probably a WRX Automatic. Not very common down here, but there are one or two that I've seen up close.
There is only ONE "Auto" Sti that I know of....and that car was originally a WRX with a swapped in STi engine, whilst retaining the auto tranny (how that was pulled off, I don't know).
Posted: May 13th, 2007, 12:01 pm
by compressor
The wrx does come with a lsd rear but an open front diff,the sti has both lsd diffs.
Posted: May 13th, 2007, 12:39 pm
by JJ16
so wiat dere is nothing called a WRX STi then?? i hear some fella de other day say he have ah Suburu WRX STi
Posted: May 13th, 2007, 3:55 pm
by Alpha_2nr
^^The correct name of the STi is the Subaru WRX-STi.
So basially the line up for Imprezas goes like this:
impreza 1.5i (base)
Impreza 1.6 TS
Impreza 2.0 RS
Impreza WRX
Impreza WRX STi
Impreza WRX STi Type RA (older bugeyes only - form 03 onwards, TYpe RA was merged with the Spec C)
Impreza WRX STi Spec C (Type RA)
Impreza WRX S202/3/4
etc etc...... (yep there are more versions)
Posted: May 13th, 2007, 4:27 pm
by JJ16
in your words which one is the best?? as in model the WRX STi, WRX STi Type RA, WRX STi Spec C or The WRX S204/5/6??
Posted: May 13th, 2007, 7:47 pm
by Alpha_2nr
^^I'd say the S204.
The S202, S203, S204 were all limited edition cars.....they carry the basic lightened frame/body of the Spec C (of the corresponding model year), but have increased horsepower (stock for stock the Spec C does 290, S203/4 does 320 bhp), and they carry more basic amenities than the Spec C (like P/W and A/C).
I am not sure, but I don't think they come with the RA Dogbox either...if this is so, then they should be easier to drive as well.
And they come with the ultra cool roof scoop on the hood as well.

Posted: May 13th, 2007, 8:37 pm
by JWT
In the 06 model the roof vent was done away with
and the spec C stock boost is 20psi

Posted: May 14th, 2007, 1:55 am
by JJ16
hmm subies yes..so wait..ah stock subie cud beat a stock evo??
Posted: May 19th, 2007, 4:48 pm
by Go Fast
There is only ONE "Auto" Sti that I know of....and that car was originally a WRX with a swapped in STi engine, whilst retaining the auto tranny (how that was pulled off, I don't know).[/quote]
duhhh the bell housing clamps on bolt for bolt to the engine.
it's a subaru thing. all the gearboxes and engines whether sti ,non sti, SRX, TS are interchangeable and bolt for bolt!!!!

Posted: May 20th, 2007, 7:37 pm
by Alpha_2nr
duhhh the bell housing clamps on bolt for bolt to the engine.
it's a subaru thing. all the gearboxes and engines whether sti ,non sti, SRX, TS are interchangeable and bolt for bolt!!!!
Well DUH then if it was that simple (
bolting up is not the main problem) then we could put an STi engine on a TS Auto tranny and attempt to play Evo killer. But then nobody's that dumb (hopefully).
Bolting up is not the problem
Go Fast. It's the longevity of the transmission with a high torque engine it wasn't intended for.
You said it yourself
Go Fast wrote:it seems like you wnt this fella to buy a new gearbox!!!!!
the ts transmission as well as the manual gearbox will be shortly destroyed with that amount of power going through it. if you don't rough it up.... it'll last but who want to have a turbo chaarged scooby and not press?
Posted: May 20th, 2007, 9:55 pm
by Go Fast
EVO KIller..............LOL
Posted: June 30th, 2007, 2:09 pm
by honda hoe
Knight1, u sayin spec c's could run as high as 320hp stock... buh ent japenese cars no tsupposed to be able to pass 280hp

Posted: June 30th, 2007, 9:37 pm
by Alpha_2nr
^^Well they're supposed to, but we all know the NSX and the R34 GTR put out more than 280 bhp...right?
Yes...the Spec C puts out 290 bhpo...and the S204 puts out more than a Spec C, at 320 bhp.
Go read it for yourself here:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/impreza_s204.asp
Or in any review of it for that matter (see Road and Track: Speed - Issue 4)
This high performance version of the already shatteringly fast standard Impreza WRX STI has an extra 39 bhp to take its peak power to 320 bhp at 6400 rpm, a 14 percent increase. Torque has risen to 319 lb-ft at 4,400 rpm, a 10.5 percent increase over the 289 lb-ft of the standard Japanese 2.0-liter Impreza WRX STI
The car also features some pretty unique Carbon Fibre backed leather racing seats.
There are numerous specification differences between the S204 and the standard Impreza WRX STI.
Externally there is a unique carbon-fibre front splitter and boot mounted rear wing to complement the side sills. There is also a rear screen wiper on this four door sedan.
The S204 sits on 18 inch BBS alloy wheels shod with 235/40 ZR18 Pirelli P Zero Corsa tires.
The wheels are filled with four piston Brembo ventilated disc brakes. S204 badging on the front and rear immediately identifies these limited edition cars from the standard WRX STI.
The suspension has been lowered by slightly less than 1 inch and has stiffer springs than the normal Impreza WRX STI. It includes an engine bay mounted front turret strut brace. Inside the boot is an STI rear performance damper between the rear suspension strut towers. Alloy componentry is used extensively in the suspension to reduce the car's unsprung weight.
Many of the parts are coloured in STI's distinctive pink to highlight the car's unique character.
Under the bonnet, there is an intercooler water spray system which can be manually operated from within the cabin. The extra performance is liberated from the quad cam, turbocharged motor by changes to the engine management system and the inlet and exhaust manifolds.
Inside the cabin carbon-fiber high backed Recaro sport's seats are upholstered with a combination of suede and leather. The footrest and pedals are alloy, while the steering wheel, gear lever and hand brake are leather covered.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but these Lateral Links seem bigger (and a different colour) to what is on the regular STi's (I've seen the JDM's got pink ones??? -
InDeForest...whey yuh bro?)

Posted: July 1st, 2007, 1:51 am
by Go Fast
now dat is a FAT stabalizer bar there..what is that...30 mm?
and the lateral links look diferrent.... normally i see a forged link, not rounded like this one tho, but more square...on our sti's down here.
Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 9:07 am
by honda hoe
Knight1 wrote:^^Well they're supposed to, but we all know the NSX and the R34 GTR put out more than 280 bhp...right?
yes i know... but isn't dat wit d factory ecu bein replaced 1st?
i wuz askin if it made 320hp wit d factory ecu...
Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 11:15 am
by Go Fast
yes. the s204 is a special LImited edition sedan, 320 break horse power an all.

nice eh... check out supercars.net for the specs on this bad boy...

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 11:49 am
by honda hoe
so how cum dey bypass d 280hp law?

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 1:23 pm
by Wolfie
The limit no longer exists.
The background of the 280 limit
The 280 limit came in effect in 1990 responding to increasing number of traffic accidents associated with high output cars. Also, the gentleman's agreement was there to avoid unneccesary unlimited power race between Japanese manufactures. 1990 was around the year when R32 GTR, 80 Supra, FD3S, NSX came out.
The reason of the termination
Being that the imported cars are not restricted, there were vehicles on road that were sold with more horsepower, recently 400 horsepower is not a surprise anymore looking at Porsches and AMGs. Also Japanese cars are sold more than 280hp elsewhere on the world. For instance, Lexus LS, Infinity Q45.
Considering the inefficiency of manufacturing vehicles in double standards, JAIA concluded that the gentleman's agreement is nonsense.
Another story is that there was opinion that the 280 limit is actually restricting the manufactures development. While foreign manufactures builds vehicles around their high performance output, Japanese cars were designed around the 280 package. The opinion was that development of chassis, brakes, suspensions, and all the other components were suffered from 280 limit.
Now, manufactures are freed to develop vehicles competing with rivalries overseas.
Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 2:13 pm
by Maserati
^thanks for the info
Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 11:37 pm
by Alpha_2nr
and the lateral links look diferrent.... normally i see a forged link, not rounded like this one tho, but more square...on our sti's down here.
That's cuz the S204 carries the Type RA suspension setup...which involves the use of
spherical type bushings/links (thus the 'round' shape you're talking about).
The sphericals greatly improved handling, and turn in.
The only other brand which really carries these (afaik) is Whiteline, which uses those types of ends on their sway bars' end links etc (superior to just a bigger sway bar alone).
Posted: July 4th, 2007, 12:45 am
by Go Fast
what about the STi Pro Drive Version, don't think any mention was made of those....
what difference is there between these models when compared to a normal STi?
Posted: July 6th, 2007, 2:18 am
by honda hoe
tanx Wolfie
didnt know dis
Posted: July 7th, 2007, 5:38 am
by DSM_05
^^It's true.
The Lexus LF-A concept puts out >400 hp. Aimed at being a porsche killer.....
Posted: July 7th, 2007, 4:59 pm
by ImprezaDriver
Go Fast wrote:what about the STi Pro Drive Version, don't think any mention was made of those....
what difference is there between these models when compared to a normal STi?
prodrive is an aftermarket company. The prodrive imprezas aren't factory work.