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EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I spoke with a PNM driver today at work, he said to show him evidence that alcohol can kill virus so I did and then he said were you there when they did that test to see if the virus really died? I said no he said AH HA "Yuh see yuh get ketch yuh must not believe what you read unless you can prove it and was there in person"
He then went onto say the earth is flat and 5000 years old so I said no this isn't true every major university and scientist in the world has proven otherwise they even sent up cameras to take pictures, astronauts went out in space and had a look it is NOT flat, he said "Where You there when they went with cameras or went out of space and viewed the earth?" I said no
He said you see there you go again believing things that you read without proof.
A PNM Education is a strange thing
paid_influencer wrote:^I see Kamla's incompetence and raise you this.The Minister of Finance, Hon. Colm Imbert, wishes to advise all taxpayers of the following:
Notwithstanding the restrictions on activities that were announced today (March 26th, 2020), the Offices of the Board of Inland Revenue will be open on Tuesday March 31, 2020 to allow taxpayers to make quarterly payments of corporation tax and income tax that fall due at the end of the current Quarter on that day.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/arrangem ... n1e024pASk
boxy wrote:I see no problem with this. You do realize that the collection of these taxes is what is going to fund what is comming right?paid_influencer wrote:^I see Kamla's incompetence and raise you this.The Minister of Finance, Hon. Colm Imbert, wishes to advise all taxpayers of the following:
Notwithstanding the restrictions on activities that were announced today (March 26th, 2020), the Offices of the Board of Inland Revenue will be open on Tuesday March 31, 2020 to allow taxpayers to make quarterly payments of corporation tax and income tax that fall due at the end of the current Quarter on that day.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/arrangem ... n1e024pASk
boxy wrote:I see no problem with this. You do realize that the collection of these taxes is what is going to fund what is comming right?paid_influencer wrote:^I see Kamla's incompetence and raise you this.The Minister of Finance, Hon. Colm Imbert, wishes to advise all taxpayers of the following:
Notwithstanding the restrictions on activities that were announced today (March 26th, 2020), the Offices of the Board of Inland Revenue will be open on Tuesday March 31, 2020 to allow taxpayers to make quarterly payments of corporation tax and income tax that fall due at the end of the current Quarter on that day.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/arrangem ... n1e024pASk
death365 wrote:some positives ...
no 7 dayz Adventist
no jevooha witness
no hare krishna people chanting loud early morning
no loud music at bars till 3 am
no beggars passing
aaron17 wrote:Someone tell me again why we didnt quarantine/isolate the 20000 rather than making them decide to self isolate? And idk if the police house call may work but at least the lockdown is Sunday.
Wide tracing net needed for 1st COVID fatality
Mark Bassant, Lead Editor - Investigative
Hansel Leon, who died of a COVID-19-related illness at the Couva Hospital on Wednesday.
There are still several burning questions that have not been answered by Ministry of Health authorities in the death of 77-year-old Hansel Leon, a US citizen who succumbed to complications from the COVID-19 on Wednesday close to noon at the Couva Hospital. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that the Ministry’s of Health’s contact tracing net for persons he may have come into contact with will have to be cast wide.
During a post-Cabinet media briefing opn Thursday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram skirted around several questions raised about Leon and failed to give clear answers on when the patient was first admitted to a medical facility before he was later transferred to the Couva Hospital, where his condition worsened.
But Guardian Media was able to obtain some vital information not only concerning Leon’s travel but also his activity over the last few weeks with a friend of the man’s relatives.
Senior immigration sources told Guardian Media that Leon, who was staying at his sister’s house in South Trinidad, arrived in the country on flight BW521 on February 7 from New York. The man also visited Trinidad last year, arriving on February 20 and leaving on March 22 - senior immigration sources added.
“He comes every year for Carnival,” a family friend said Thursday.
In the weeks leading up to Carnival, Leon had been socialising and attending public events.
“For all of February he was fine but one of his close relatives where he was staying told him he should not be venturing out so often because of COVID-19,” revealed the family friend.
But on March 1, the week after Carnival, there was a gathering Leon attended along with his friend, also from New York, where there were several other foreign nationals also present, the family friend said.
“I know that he passed out on a chair from tiredness that night and his friend later took him home. About four days later (March 5) he went to a funeral,” the family friend said.
A few days later, Leon fell ill and his friend from New York, who had gone to visit him at his relative’s home, said he did not look well and they decided to call an ambulance.
“From what I was told, he was taken to the San Fernando General Hospital and I know when they admitted him he gave his son’s contact information in Atlanta,” said the friend.
The friend said they believe it was “quite likely that someone else who was ill with the virus may have passed it on to him.”
Leon seems to have been taken to the Couva Hospital sometime between March 13 and 15, where he was being treated until he died on Wednesday, which would suggest he took well over the two to 14-day period which current medical experts suggest before showing symptoms after exposure.
Parasram said there were outliers (anomalies) that didn’t fix the general statistic trend with his case. He said in some cases, patients could show symptoms up to 42 days after.
“All of us have been working with 14 days and we are hoping to God that it is right. There has been shown viremic patients up to 42 days in the research, some as far as beyond 42 days, documented 21 days and carrying viral illness.”
However, he steered clear of indicating when Leon was admitted and if he was admitted around March 13, why his case wasn’t declared to the pubic in some measure since the first two cases declared by the Ministry of Health did not match his age. The ages of the first two COVID-19 patients were 52 and 66 respectively.
Up to Thursday, according to the Ministry of Health, T&T had 65 confirmed cases of COVID and 415 people had been tested.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Any other graphs like this for T&T?
Screenshot 2020-03-26 at 11.26.55 PM.jpg
Dohplaydat wrote:boxy wrote:I see no problem with this. You do realize that the collection of these taxes is what is going to fund what is comming right?paid_influencer wrote:^I see Kamla's incompetence and raise you this.The Minister of Finance, Hon. Colm Imbert, wishes to advise all taxpayers of the following:
Notwithstanding the restrictions on activities that were announced today (March 26th, 2020), the Offices of the Board of Inland Revenue will be open on Tuesday March 31, 2020 to allow taxpayers to make quarterly payments of corporation tax and income tax that fall due at the end of the current Quarter on that day.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/arrangem ... n1e024pASk
And here we have a PNM sycophant, showing they are no better than the UNC sycophants.
You don't need to collect taxes right now, you need to inject liquidity in a failing economy. We have many sources of income including debt financing, loans and our HSE fund.
If anything, I'm actually appalled that this wasn't delayed or written off completely.
screwbash wrote:death365 wrote:some positives ...
no 7 dayz Adventist
no jevooha witness
no hare krishna people chanting loud early morning
no loud music at bars till 3 am
no beggars passing
i hope d character that does go in d mosque 5am and bawl allah owe akbar over the mike every dam morning an wake up everybody hush he kant and stay inside too.
boxy wrote:I have no political affiliation to any party and the fact u can bring that up shows the level of thinking you on. You do realise that tax dollars pay public servants salaries which includes 80-90% of the county's doctors and nurses right.
The mere fact that you wish the govt to write off taxes from businesses shows the level of illiteracy you possess not even a UNC led government would make that decision.
They also promised payment to citizens tax returns from this week. Now as relates to the tax office if it doesn't put proper protocols in place to prevent congregation then I will be the first to bash them.
Lastly if someone doesn't have the same views as yourself don't assume they are a PNM or UNC psychophants as you may be alienating people who may vote your party this electionsDohplaydat wrote:boxy wrote:I see no problem with this. You do realize that the collection of these taxes is what is going to fund what is comming right?paid_influencer wrote:^I see Kamla's incompetence and raise you this.The Minister of Finance, Hon. Colm Imbert, wishes to advise all taxpayers of the following:
Notwithstanding the restrictions on activities that were announced today (March 26th, 2020), the Offices of the Board of Inland Revenue will be open on Tuesday March 31, 2020 to allow taxpayers to make quarterly payments of corporation tax and income tax that fall due at the end of the current Quarter on that day.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/arrangem ... n1e024pASk
And here we have a PNM sycophant, showing they are no better than the UNC sycophants.
You don't need to collect taxes right now, you need to inject liquidity in a failing economy. We have many sources of income including debt financing, loans and our HSE fund.
If anything, I'm actually appalled that this wasn't delayed or written off completely.
Phone Surgeon wrote:
Probably what happening here and a sign of things to come.
Those in charge saying everything ok and we well equipped and those on the frontline saying we screwed and they have no ppe or sufficient equipment.
aaron17 wrote:Someone tell me again why we didnt quarantine/isolate the 20000 rather than making them decide to self isolate? And idk if the police house call may work but at least the lockdown is Sunday.
hydroep wrote:The CMO/MOH is withholding the date when the gentleman was (first) admitted. Why?...
Wide tracing net needed for 1st COVID fatality
Mark Bassant, Lead Editor - Investigative
Hansel Leon, who died of a COVID-19-related illness at the Couva Hospital on Wednesday.
There are still several burning questions that have not been answered by Ministry of Health authorities in the death of 77-year-old Hansel Leon, a US citizen who succumbed to complications from the COVID-19 on Wednesday close to noon at the Couva Hospital. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that the Ministry’s of Health’s contact tracing net for persons he may have come into contact with will have to be cast wide.
During a post-Cabinet media briefing opn Thursday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram skirted around several questions raised about Leon and failed to give clear answers on when the patient was first admitted to a medical facility before he was later transferred to the Couva Hospital, where his condition worsened.
But Guardian Media was able to obtain some vital information not only concerning Leon’s travel but also his activity over the last few weeks with a friend of the man’s relatives.
Senior immigration sources told Guardian Media that Leon, who was staying at his sister’s house in South Trinidad, arrived in the country on flight BW521 on February 7 from New York. The man also visited Trinidad last year, arriving on February 20 and leaving on March 22 - senior immigration sources added.
“He comes every year for Carnival,” a family friend said Thursday.
In the weeks leading up to Carnival, Leon had been socialising and attending public events.
“For all of February he was fine but one of his close relatives where he was staying told him he should not be venturing out so often because of COVID-19,” revealed the family friend.
But on March 1, the week after Carnival, there was a gathering Leon attended along with his friend, also from New York, where there were several other foreign nationals also present, the family friend said.
“I know that he passed out on a chair from tiredness that night and his friend later took him home. About four days later (March 5) he went to a funeral,” the family friend said.
A few days later, Leon fell ill and his friend from New York, who had gone to visit him at his relative’s home, said he did not look well and they decided to call an ambulance.
“From what I was told, he was taken to the San Fernando General Hospital and I know when they admitted him he gave his son’s contact information in Atlanta,” said the friend.
The friend said they believe it was “quite likely that someone else who was ill with the virus may have passed it on to him.”
Leon seems to have been taken to the Couva Hospital sometime between March 13 and 15, where he was being treated until he died on Wednesday, which would suggest he took well over the two to 14-day period which current medical experts suggest before showing symptoms after exposure.
Parasram said there were outliers (anomalies) that didn’t fix the general statistic trend with his case. He said in some cases, patients could show symptoms up to 42 days after.
“All of us have been working with 14 days and we are hoping to God that it is right. There has been shown viremic patients up to 42 days in the research, some as far as beyond 42 days, documented 21 days and carrying viral illness.”
However, he steered clear of indicating when Leon was admitted and if he was admitted around March 13, why his case wasn’t declared to the pubic in some measure since the first two cases declared by the Ministry of Health did not match his age. The ages of the first two COVID-19 patients were 52 and 66 respectively.
Up to Thursday, according to the Ministry of Health, T&T had 65 confirmed cases of COVID and 415 people had been tested.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/wide-tracing-net-needed-for-1st-covid-fatality-6.2.1087619.1a5fbcd137
nemisis wrote:Where south did the first death reside?
Gladiator wrote:From the timeline in the article...is it safe to say that if we did not have Carnival Mr Leon would not have come to Trinidad and died and whoever he infected could have been avoided.
Awaits the carnival jumbies to start their rants...hydroep wrote:The CMO/MOH is withholding the date when the gentleman was (first) admitted. Why?...
Wide tracing net needed for 1st COVID fatality
Mark Bassant, Lead Editor - Investigative
Hansel Leon, who died of a COVID-19-related illness at the Couva Hospital on Wednesday.
There are still several burning questions that have not been answered by Ministry of Health authorities in the death of 77-year-old Hansel Leon, a US citizen who succumbed to complications from the COVID-19 on Wednesday close to noon at the Couva Hospital. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that the Ministry’s of Health’s contact tracing net for persons he may have come into contact with will have to be cast wide.
During a post-Cabinet media briefing opn Thursday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram skirted around several questions raised about Leon and failed to give clear answers on when the patient was first admitted to a medical facility before he was later transferred to the Couva Hospital, where his condition worsened.
But Guardian Media was able to obtain some vital information not only concerning Leon’s travel but also his activity over the last few weeks with a friend of the man’s relatives.
Senior immigration sources told Guardian Media that Leon, who was staying at his sister’s house in South Trinidad, arrived in the country on flight BW521 on February 7 from New York. The man also visited Trinidad last year, arriving on February 20 and leaving on March 22 - senior immigration sources added.
“He comes every year for Carnival,” a family friend said Thursday.
In the weeks leading up to Carnival, Leon had been socialising and attending public events.
“For all of February he was fine but one of his close relatives where he was staying told him he should not be venturing out so often because of COVID-19,” revealed the family friend.
But on March 1, the week after Carnival, there was a gathering Leon attended along with his friend, also from New York, where there were several other foreign nationals also present, the family friend said.
“I know that he passed out on a chair from tiredness that night and his friend later took him home. About four days later (March 5) he went to a funeral,” the family friend said.
A few days later, Leon fell ill and his friend from New York, who had gone to visit him at his relative’s home, said he did not look well and they decided to call an ambulance.
“From what I was told, he was taken to the San Fernando General Hospital and I know when they admitted him he gave his son’s contact information in Atlanta,” said the friend.
The friend said they believe it was “quite likely that someone else who was ill with the virus may have passed it on to him.”
Leon seems to have been taken to the Couva Hospital sometime between March 13 and 15, where he was being treated until he died on Wednesday, which would suggest he took well over the two to 14-day period which current medical experts suggest before showing symptoms after exposure.
Parasram said there were outliers (anomalies) that didn’t fix the general statistic trend with his case. He said in some cases, patients could show symptoms up to 42 days after.
“All of us have been working with 14 days and we are hoping to God that it is right. There has been shown viremic patients up to 42 days in the research, some as far as beyond 42 days, documented 21 days and carrying viral illness.”
However, he steered clear of indicating when Leon was admitted and if he was admitted around March 13, why his case wasn’t declared to the pubic in some measure since the first two cases declared by the Ministry of Health did not match his age. The ages of the first two COVID-19 patients were 52 and 66 respectively.
Up to Thursday, according to the Ministry of Health, T&T had 65 confirmed cases of COVID and 415 people had been tested.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/wide-tracing-net-needed-for-1st-covid-fatality-6.2.1087619.1a5fbcd137
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