Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

[De Dragon]

This has zero truth to it

AUM management held a meeting with employees last week to reportedly discuss VSEP and shuttering one of the melamine plants

I heard this from an ex-AUM employee who maintains ties to present workers there.

Na. Still untrue

AUM aside, Proman's message about M4 and M5000 was hinting towards April being manageable but after that it's gonna be trouble. Guess we'll know in about 2 weeks time if they will initiate vsep/retrenchment. Actually heard the Proman head email the staff Friday and told them there was no change to the negotiations. If anyone has a copy of the email, feel free to share since I got no hard proof, only word of mouth from proman ppl

This negotiation has allegedly been going on since last year, I don't see what a couple of weeks is really gonna do.

[SuperiorMan]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

[DreamWeaver]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know

[Kenjo]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

A saturated field with hospital admin not specifically trained in hospital management ? Pretend everyday you are macgyver? Choose what you like for sure because the grass isn’t greener

[SuperiorMan]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

A saturated field with hospital admin not specifically trained in hospital management ? Pretend everyday you are macgyver? Choose what you like for sure because the grass isn’t greener

Hello Kenjo,

I was referring to the stability of the job....at least it's less likely you get fired (eventually when you do get a job as a doctor.)

[SuperiorMan]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know

Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

[alfa]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know

Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend

[SuperiorMan]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know

Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend

Thanks for the response.

You said it will reach a "level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago." Do you ever see it getting back to the standard of living we had in the 90s and early 2000s?

[alfa]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know

Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend

Thanks for the response.

You said it will reach a "level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago." Do you ever see it getting back to the standard of living we had in the 90s and early 2000s?

With the world heading to green energy and all we have to offer is oil, then no. However it would've be all doom and gloom. The caribbean will still use ICE vehicles and hence oil for a long time.

[widdyphuck]

Does Trinidad still have a relevant Energy Sector when compared to the world

[Kickstart]

Does Trinidad still have a relevant Energy Sector when compared to the world

Not any more

[DreamWeaver]

Heard BHP's Ruby project is supposed to deliver 80mmscf/d natgas from next month. More gas for train 1!

[De Dragon]

Hello tuner friends,

after reading a lot of this thread, I've found out that it's true....it's really better to do med than engineering.

Trinidad kinda melting down everywhere right now. Med probably aint even a safe bet if we gonna end up like venezuela. Today some of the venezuelans on the streets were probably some of the brightest in their country. Now theyre doing what they must to survive. Honestly the best education to have would be to hunt, farm, fish and basically learn to be self sustaining. Modern education is worthless in a collapsed economy. Then again, Walking Dead did make it seem that doctors are gods, so go for it. You never know

Interesting response.

How likely do you think Trinidad ends up like Venezuela?

Personally I don't see it happening. Venezuela ended up the way it did because of socialism, and the sanctions that followed because of it coupled with Chavez' destruction of their oil fields. As one local economist said things in Trinidad are going to get worse over the next year or so and then level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago. But I don't see it Venezuela level of bad.
Regarding a self sustaining lifestyle you need land to farm, hunt and fish on. You tube channels that promote the off the grid lifestyle doesn't show just how much money it takes to live a seemingly simply life. Nothing simple about it. What we need to learn is to live within our means. Y'all really need a new flat screen every black Friday sale from price mart? Ease of the boat ride and jordans, actually cook, if unemployed keep your tail home and take off the data plan. You'd be surprised how much money you can save. Can't be zessing in the wettest tida with rims but living in a 10x10. Common sense cultural mindset changes are all we need and we will do fine.
And medicine is a better choice or even law. Always sick people to treat and scumbags to defend

Thanks for the response.

You said it will reach a "level of to a lifestyle much lower than we had a decade ago." Do you ever see it getting back to the standard of living we had in the 90s and early 2000s?

Dbu, JUHN Scarfy is on record as having said we will borrow to maintain that lifestyle

[widdyphuck]

Any views on the offshore platforms that being hit by COVID-19?

[Numb3r4]

It may require those platforms coming offline for sanitization, this may affect the supply of gas.
However this has a definite timeline and the platforms can be back up so it is a hiccup but shouldn't be too bad.

Do we know which platforms or companies?

[DreamWeaver]

Hearing rumors of Proman talking about getting gas back this week. Anyone can confirm? Curious to know where they getting it from

[ST Auto]

Yup may be true as they finished of all maintenance works an prepping for plant start up

[DreamWeaver]

Yup may be true as they finished of all maintenance works an prepping for plant start up

I thought that maintenance didnt matter? I thought gas price was the concern and they were just killing time until the bosses signed off on it

[ST Auto]

They took the opportunity to have maintenance done on both plants as they were scheduled to come down for maintenance later on in the month

[DreamWeaver]

They took the opportunity to have maintenance done on both plants as they were scheduled to come down for maintenance later on in the month

So proman was just crying wolf to make ngc look like the bad guy then?

[ST Auto]

How is that crying wolf. It makes sense to fix whatever issues the plant has while it's down. At the end of the day they didn't send home anyone. Ppl still getting paid to work so work them.

[DreamWeaver]

Is all about how it appeared on the media and the kind of responses that were seen. It basically made ngc look like it didnt know how to negotiate and it set up the impression that ngc was being unreasonable in negotiations. If they could have paid for the gas, just be honest with ngc and say they taking a shut down and will take gas by X date.

[ST Auto]

Ngc were only willing to give month to month contracts an they wanted a long term 3 year + contract like what cnc got.

[DreamWeaver]

Ngc were only willing to give month to month contracts an they wanted a long term 3 year + contract like what cnc got.

But they never said that. They said gas price was too high

[ST Auto]

Yea an it was too high. Heard they gt so we will see

[DreamWeaver]

Half truths then. I suppose it is a clever business strategy

[sMASH]

They used to have outage works planned and fairly organized so in the odd case that they come down for any resosn, they had various things to tackle.
Like if it's a say they had things lined up. If it's a week they had another schedule linned upif ti's a Month, they have another schedule tsilored for that.


They rolled like that for the last 6 years.

If they got gas, they ran the plant till it trip and decide how long to stay down.
If they got call to curtail, they might ahve opted to reroute that smijnt do gas to trh other plants, take one down and sort out some issues.


It was quite volatile there.

Its not crying wolf so much as if u get sun u have things lined up to make hay, if u get rain, u have things lined up to full barrel.

[DreamWeaver]

They used to have outage works planned and fairly organized so in the odd case that they come down for any resosn, they had various things to tackle.
Like if it's a say they had things lined up. If it's a week they had another schedule linned upif ti's a Month, they have another schedule tsilored for that.


They rolled like that for the last 6 years.

If they got gas, they ran the plant till it trip and decide how long to stay down.
If they got call to curtail, they might ahve opted to reroute that smijnt do gas to trh other plants, take one down and sort out some issues.


It was quite volatile there.

Its not crying wolf so much as if u get sun u have things lined up to make hay, if u get rain, u have things lined up to full barrel.

Well imagine how different the energy sector news would have been if proman and ngc had mature conversations and agreed that no contract would be in place for the majority of april whilst they work on planned outages. This as opposed to going public and all over the news about gas price. Even their own proman employees had no clue what was going on. The outages were unplanned and they were caught off guard for the most part. Such a public outcry really does bring sympathy for them so i guess I know why they did it. It doesn't help us as a country though. No matter how you look at a company, their priority is always maximized profits

[ST Auto]

The outages were not unplanned as it was scheduled to be held in april month none the less. Agree that everyone seeks to maximize profits an things could have been done differently but for months before emails were sending stating what was taking place with negotiations an everyone was fully aware of the short term contract that kept renewing.

[DreamWeaver]

The outages were not unplanned as it was scheduled to be held in april month none the less. Agree that everyone seeks to maximize profits an things could have been done differently but for months before emails were sending stating what was taking place with negotiations an everyone was fully aware of the short term contract that kept renewing.

Fair point. I am not a govt fanboy but i aint like how this play out with respect to the govt/ngc/country. I rel thinking we in trouble but if is just hardball game being played, ngc right to hit hard. Happened with cnc too, right? Compromise is possible.