COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates) (Poll added)

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

How do u know if you are healthy? That is why vaccine is the answer so ppl dont have to answer that question.

how do you know you have/had/will ever contract covid? & if you never contract it, will you still need the vaccine to remain healthy?
And after you take the vaccine that will not prevent you from contracting it or spreading it to others, & you still have to continue wearing a mask, sanitizing etc, what is the real reason for taking the vaccine if all those other protocols were keeping you safe before the development of the vaccine?

If the airbags work then why the seatbelt?
If the seatbelt works then why the airbags?
Of both work then why the brakes?

[aaron17]

Aaron either has allergies or he's antivax trolling.Either way,go by your personal doctor and figure out whether it safe for you to get a covid vaccine and which type

I have allergies.

[Wraith King]

How do u know if you are healthy? That is why vaccine is the answer so ppl dont have to answer that question.

how do you know you have/had/will ever contract covid? & if you never contract it, will you still need the vaccine to remain healthy?
And after you take the vaccine that will not prevent you from contracting it or spreading it to others, & you still have to continue wearing a mask, sanitizing etc, what is the real reason for taking the vaccine if all those other protocols were keeping you safe before the development of the vaccine?

If the airbags work then why the seatbelt?
If the seatbelt works then why the airbags?
Of both work then why the brakes?

This is the Duane people does be talking about on the forum?

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Aaron either has allergies or he's antivax trolling.Either way,go by your personal doctor and figure out whether it safe for you to get a covid vaccine and which type

I have allergies.

You reach by your doctor as yet?

[PariaMan]

Tru words

[88sins]

How do u know if you are healthy? That is why vaccine is the answer so ppl dont have to answer that question.

how do you know you have/had/will ever contract covid? & if you never contract it, will you still need the vaccine to remain healthy?
And after you take the vaccine that will not prevent you from contracting it or spreading it to others, & you still have to continue wearing a mask, sanitizing etc, what is the real reason for taking the vaccine if all those other protocols were keeping you safe before the development of the vaccine?

bess u stop wearing seat belts, or taking any safety mitigation actions.

You're being ridiculous.

You're acting as if the vaccine is 100% safe and he is refusing to take it for no good reason.

Brah stop being a nookie, it's 99.999% safe.

I have to wonder if you antivax retards even want this pandemic to end?

boi, if you was stupid you might have actually been smarter than you are now

If the airbags work then why the seatbelt?
If the seatbelt works then why the airbags?
Of both work then why the brakes?

And you know, that if not properly designed, tested & built, all those things are just as much a hazard to a vehicle operator on the road, if not more so. Ever seen what happens when an airbag spontaneously deploys while a vehicle in motion? it ain't pretty
& ain't no way in hell I believe these vaccines were properly tested.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Aaron either has allergies or he's antivax trolling.Either way,go by your personal doctor and figure out whether it safe for you to get a covid vaccine and which type

I have allergies.

So do I - I take antihistamines all the time
I'm also allergic to Ibuprofen
But I took the Sinopharm vaccine and had no allergic reactions

Odds of dying if infected with covid is 2% (in T&T it's 2.775%)
Odds of dying from a covid vaccine is 0.0018%
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/

That's more than 1000x more likely to die from Covid than from the vaccine. (1500x in T&T)

[aaron17]

Aaron either has allergies or he's antivax trolling.Either way,go by your personal doctor and figure out whether it safe for you to get a covid vaccine and which type

I have allergies.

So do I - I take antihistamines all the time
I'm also allergic to Ibuprofen
But I took the Sinopharm vaccine and had no allergic reactions

Odds of dying if infected with covid is 2% (in T&T it's 2.775%)
Odds of dying from a covid vaccine is 0.0018%
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/

That's more than 1000x more likely to die from Covid than from the vaccine. (1500x in T&T)

Mild?

[aaron17]

Jus a thought....

(Yearly flu scenario)
If they have treatments for flu...why they also have vaccines?


Soo the covid situation....there are no known treatments to use home? And we jus rollin with the vaccines ?


Yea i know its jus to reduce hospital figures and have ample treatments to ppl who really need it.( icu and oxygen)

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Jus a thought....

(Yearly flu scenario)
If they have treatments for flu...why they also have vaccines?


Soo the covid situation....there are no known treatments to use home? And we jus rollin with the vaccines ?


Yea i know its jus to reduce hospital figures and have ample treatments to ppl who really need it.( icu and oxygen)

A vaccine isn't a treatment - it's to prevent you from being affected by the disease.
A vaccine stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.
You cannot take a vaccine to cure you if you are already affected. It is not a cure.

A treatment is the management and care of a patient to combat disease or disorder.
A treatment is given when you already have the disease.
Treatments are given to covid patients based on their symptoms.
For example - giving a Covid patient oxygen is a treatment for the symptom of having low blood/oxygen levels which is a symptom of Covid-19 and other SARS viruses (SARS is an abbreviation of Severe acute respiratory syndrome). Covid is medically known as SARS-CoV2

[Redman]

28 days in Agustus Long..the last 13 days waiting to die pretty much cured a friend of his hesitation…..

We ALL have to pick our poison….88 is frigging right…do your own research …make your own decision.

[aaron17]

Jus a thought....

(Yearly flu scenario)
If they have treatments for flu...why they also have vaccines?


Soo the covid situation....there are no known treatments to use home? And we jus rollin with the vaccines ?


Yea i know its jus to reduce hospital figures and have ample treatments to ppl who really need it.( icu and oxygen)

A vaccine isn't a treatment - it's to prevent you from being affected by the disease.
A vaccine stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.
You cannot take a vaccine to cure you if you are already affected. It is not a cure.

A treatment is the management and care of a patient to combat disease or disorder.
A treatment is given when you already have the disease.
Treatments are given to covid patients based on their symptoms.
For example - giving a Covid patient oxygen is a treatment for the symptom of having low blood/oxygen levels which is a symptom of Covid-19 and other SARS viruses (SARS is an abbreviation of Severe acute respiratory syndrome). Covid is medically known as SARS-CoV2

A vaccine isn't a treatment - 'it's to prevent you from being affected by the disease.'

The stuff i highlighted in my opinion means..Disease like lung damage...brain fog ...death?
But you can still get the covid virus right?

Also i think we cannot get to herd immunity..since vacc ppl still spread it.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

A breakthrough case is where a fully vaccinated person still gets the virus.
"No vaccine is 100 percent effective, although some are better than others, most of them have some breakthrough infections."
"They frequently happen following inoculation against influenza, measles and many other diseases."

Yes there have been breakthrough cases particularly with the Delta variant.
But this number is very small and the vast majority of them do not get symptoms or require hospitalization.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e-failing/

[Deadric]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/04/who-cal ... ember.html

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/04/who-calls-for-moratorium-on-covid-vaccine-boosters-at-least-through-september.html

Yes and by booster they mean a 3rd shot

As the highly infectious Delta variant of the coronavirus is becoming dominant in country after country, Israel has started giving a third shot to its most vulnerable people, while the German and French governments have said they intend to soon.

[aaron17]

I think i misunderstood previously.
Why labelling it as vaccine then? They should call it something else.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I think i misunderstood previously.
Why labelling it as vaccine then? They should call it something else.

it is a vaccine

you can get a flu vaccine and still get the flu - your symptoms will be far less as your body would have built up some immunity to the flu virus.

Vaccinated people still need to take precautions for highly infectious diseases.
Again - no vaccine is 100% effective
But it gives you a far better chance should you get the virus than if you are unvaccinated AND you will be less likely to spread the virus to others as viral loads in vaccinated persons are less

[88sins]

And when eventually the Lambda variant (which is showing strong indicators that it is resistant to most antibodies the human body generates after taking these currently available vaccines, thus even vaccinated people won't be any better off than the unvaccinated) inevitably reaches here, then what?

I am not telling people to not take it, if you feel that it's the best choice for you, feel free, and I wish you the best of luck.
I however got no problem refusing it at least for a few years. By then, if there are any significant long term negative effects, they would be documented, and if not, I can then consider them safe enough for my liking. And I not about to tolerate anybody bringing me any ole talk about that I HAVE to take it, regardless of their opinions.
I, like everyone else, only have to do one thing in life, and that's to die at the end of it. Outside of that, everything else is optional, including this vaccine.

[PariaMan]

If god spares your life you will take the vaccine in 3 years

Fixed for you

Be respectful

And when eventually the Lambda variant (which is showing strong indicators that it is resistant to most antibodies the human body generates after taking these currently available vaccines, thus even vaccinated people won't be any better off than the unvaccinated) inevitably reaches here, then what?

I am not telling people to not take it, if you feel that it's the best choice for you, feel free, and I wish you the best of luck.
I however got no problem refusing it at least for a few years. By then, if there are any significant long term negative effects, they would be documented, and if not, I can then consider them safe enough for my liking. And I not about to tolerate anybody bringing me any ole talk about that I HAVE to take it, regardless of their opinions.
I, like everyone else, only have to do one thing in life, and that's to die at the end of it. Outside of that, everything else is optional, including this vaccine.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

And when eventually the Lambda variant (which is showing strong indicators that it is resistant to most antibodies the human body generates after taking these currently available vaccines, thus even vaccinated people won't be any better off than the unvaccinated) inevitably reaches here, then what?

that is speculative
Also even if we get a strain that makes the current vaccines less effective it does not mean the older strains will disappear, so being vaccinated for the older strains and even somewhat for the newer strains is still better than being unvaccinated and susceptible to ALL of them.

I am not telling people to not take it, if you feel that it's the best choice for you, feel free, and I wish you the best of luck.
I however got no problem refusing it at least for a few years. By then, if there are any significant long term negative effects, they would be documented, and if not, I can then consider them safe enough for my liking. And I not about to tolerate anybody bringing me any ole talk about that I HAVE to take it, regardless of their opinions.
I, like everyone else, only have to do one thing in life, and that's to die at the end of it. Outside of that, everything else is optional, including this vaccine.

Yes you are right it is your choice however the more people think like that and don't take the vaccine then the longer we will stay in lockdowns and continue to put pressure on the health care system.

Also while it is your choice to take or not take the vaccine, it is also the choice of businesses, malls, restaurants, cinemas, bars, gyms etc to require proof of vaccination to be able to access.

[elec2020]

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And when eventually the Lambda variant (which is showing strong indicators that it is resistant to most antibodies the human body generates after taking these currently available vaccines, thus even vaccinated people won't be any better off than the unvaccinated) inevitably reaches here, then what?

that is speculative
Also even if we get a strain that makes the current vaccines less effective it does not mean the older strains will disappear, so being vaccinated for the older strains and even somewhat for the newer strains is still better than being unvaccinated and susceptible to ALL of them.

I am not telling people to not take it, if you feel that it's the best choice for you, feel free, and I wish you the best of luck.
I however got no problem refusing it at least for a few years. By then, if there are any significant long term negative effects, they would be documented, and if not, I can then consider them safe enough for my liking. And I not about to tolerate anybody bringing me any ole talk about that I HAVE to take it, regardless of their opinions.
I, like everyone else, only have to do one thing in life, and that's to die at the end of it. Outside of that, everything else is optional, including this vaccine.

Yes you are right it is your choice however the more people think like that and don't take the vaccine then the longer we will stay in lockdowns and continue to put pressure on the health care system.

Also while it is your choice to take or not take the vaccine, it is also the choice of businesses, malls, restaurants, cinemas, bars, gyms etc to require proof of vaccination to be able to access.

Same mentality applies to computer viruses.Them anti vaxxers feel safe putting their flashdrive in Roytec and Sams computer lab, bring it home with no anti virus, because that infringe on their rights,never mind that there are plenty free options that work,then put it on mom and granny computer afterwards.Meanwhile, milworm.exe was a hoax in their minds.

[VexXx Dogg]

Godwin's law, invoked.

GFG

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Not all vaccine-hesitant people are anti-vaxxers
Many would take yellow fever or flu vaccines and will have their children immunized but are skeptical about the novel coronavirus vaccine as it is new and still under emergency use license.
However you have to be able to pick the sense from nonsense when deciding for yourself whether to take it or not.

[elec2020]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq52TUza3RA

[redmanjp]

I take it its because both are mask off activities. The second may be possible but difficult to breathe at a fast rate with strenuous exercise. And that makes it more risky because more viral particles are exhaled.

Restaurants and bars here should follow suit if dining is to be allowed anytime soon

[mragoobir]

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ that's like installing brakes on a car and asking if this means you'll never get into an accident

[PariaMan]

I take statins for cholesterol could still get heart attack

I exercise for health could still get sick

It's all about minimizing risk