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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby MaxPower » December 1st, 2021, 9:09 pm

zoom rader wrote:We have dumb laws that is suited for 1960s , in other countries a ford ranger is not classed as heavy T.


Zoom i remember you saying a few years ago…..

“A stupid country filled with stupid people”

You were right.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby *KRONIK* » December 2nd, 2021, 5:22 am

zoom rader wrote:
pugboy wrote:in theory yes, but in this country there is no single govt appointed test body which is legit
far less for something involving guns with a long history of bobol from the top.

ppl will just pay money to pass the test.

What percentage of ford ranger drivers did a heavyT licenese test ?
We have dumb laws that is suited for 1960s , in other countries a ford ranger is not classed as heavy T.
While i wanna agree with you, up until the introduction of those 3.2 ranger/RORO hiace/new batch of NV350 that met the 2950KG + mark, there really never was the need for the average driver to have a class 4 permit.

So i dont really see an issue with it.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby *KRONIK* » December 2nd, 2021, 5:28 am

pugboy wrote:so far only the ranger and nissan panel van are heavyt

but all the other pickups are inching up to the heavyt category of mgw 2954kg, some are 2900

them officers must be licking they lips for when that time comes

zoom rader wrote:
pugboy wrote:in theory yes, but in this country there is no single govt appointed test body which is legit
far less for something involving guns with a long history of bobol from the top.

ppl will just pay money to pass the test.

What percentage of ford ranger drivers did a heavyT licenese test ?
We have dumb laws that is suited for 1960s , in other countries a ford ranger is not classed as heavy T.
The dealers will keep them below the threshold, its been done before. Massy actually sold a batch of underweight NV350 from the 1st batch to keep them out of the class 4 range.

And having class 4 to drive a loaded vehicle i think is a plus.
Even tho the regulations exam for class 4 is pure kaka, if you take in some of the key points, it still covers handling of the loaded vehicle and wheel placement, braking etc. Which is different from the class 3 regulations.
So, putting the luxury of a 400k+ pickup that will never tote a full tray of load aside, the classification of permit by weight range is actually practical.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » December 2nd, 2021, 6:18 am

yeah I am sure the dealers are well aware of this potential situation

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby MaxPower » December 6th, 2021, 1:20 am

Blame GG for issuing to many FULs to irresponsible Trinis with poor training.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » December 6th, 2021, 5:10 am

part of ful training should be to wear holster for 6 months empty before buying a gun

safe zone not safe

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Redman » December 6th, 2021, 7:15 am

So with the right system....the FULL holder would have an insurance policy to pay for damages, he would have to submit to a drug/alco test.

All agreed to before he get the license

Yuh get yuh ting, get a good holster, don't be cheap

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby hover11 » December 6th, 2021, 7:19 am

Redman wrote:So with the right system....the FULL holder would have an insurance policy to pay for damages, he would have to submit to a drug/alco test.

All agreed to before he get the license

Yuh get yuh ting, get a good holster, don't be cheap
Redman,

Is it right to be carrying your firearm to a public space like a bar to begin with where intoxication is inevitable, his license should be revoked and I hope the lady survives to file a civil suit against him

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Kenjo » December 6th, 2021, 7:43 am

She is a real estate agent so lawyers lining up . Emotional and physical scars cost will be astronomical

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Phone Surgeon » December 6th, 2021, 8:22 am

hover11 wrote:
Redman wrote:So with the right system....the FULL holder would have an insurance policy to pay for damages, he would have to submit to a drug/alco test.

All agreed to before he get the license

Yuh get yuh ting, get a good holster, don't be cheap
Redman,

Is it right to be carrying your firearm to a public space like a bar to begin with where intoxication is inevitable, his license should be revoked and I hope the lady survives to file a civil suit against him


ummm

it have a sign outside bars that bandits not allowed in or something?

or persons with firearms would ask the bandits to please kindly wait while they retrieve their weapons from their vehicle


if a business place searching customers and telling them they can't bring in their legal firearms, they better have some HEAVY security to protect patrons and not a overweight security with a baton and a pitbull who eh get eat in days

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Redman » December 6th, 2021, 8:25 am

hover11 wrote:
Redman wrote:So with the right system....the FULL holder would have an insurance policy to pay for damages, he would have to submit to a drug/alco test.

All agreed to before he get the license

Yuh get yuh ting, get a good holster, don't be cheap
Redman,

Is it right to be carrying your firearm to a public space like a bar to begin with where intoxication is inevitable, his license should be revoked and I hope the lady survives to file a civil suit against him


Once you accept liability and responsibility for what happens as a result-carry everywhere.

I dont agree that intoxication is inevitable when in a bar- Its your responsibility to conduct yourself appropriately.

Also- the guardian saying that the woman who was shot wasnt the FUL holder- she was shot when the holder was fixin his clothes.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby 16 cycles » December 6th, 2021, 8:29 am

Some 'goodboys' met their demise from FUL holders in bars from the local vids over the last few years....

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Phone Surgeon » December 6th, 2021, 8:37 am

lol the amount of FUL holders does be liming rising star, they would never enforce that.

they just hadda ban that idiot who shoot the woman

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby zoom rader » December 6th, 2021, 8:59 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:lol the amount of FUL holders does be liming rising star, they would never enforce that.

they just hadda ban that idiot who shoot the woman
Ent Rising Star is a UNC rum shop?

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » December 6th, 2021, 9:50 am

i can guess the chap prob got his business approved via the gun shop that does tow vehicles

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Firearms User License HELP

Postby MaxPower » December 6th, 2021, 9:56 am

The majority of the population in T&T is NOT fit to have FULs and i blame Civilian Gary for making the public feel that everyone should be “entitled” to have a FUL.

When you give “everyone” a FUL easily, this is the kind of jackass behavior you will get. i.e - an irresponsible dumb Trini drinking rum and coasting in a rum shop who is clearly incapable and incompetent of handling a firearm.

If all these Trinis so WANT, not need, WANT FULs then they should go through a STRICT evaluation.

But no, Civilian Gary chose processing fees and promoting “FULs for all” to gain public love OVER the safety aspect.

The more Trinis have FULs, the more incidents/accidents will occur.

I say again, the behavior from Trinis in this pandemic is disgusting and our position on the statistics is embarrassing…..and oh they want firearm. Smh

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby zoom rader » December 6th, 2021, 10:02 am

MaxPower wrote:The majority of the population in T&T is NOT fit to have FULs and i blame Civilian Gary for making the public feel that everyone should be “entitled” to have a FUL.

When you give “everyone” a FUL easily, this is the kind of jackass behavior you will get. i.e - an irresponsible dumb Trini drinking rum and coasting in a rum shop who is clearly incapable and incompetent of handling a firearm.

If all these Trinis so WANT, not need, WANT FULs then they should go through a STRICT evaluation.

But no, Civilian Gary chose processing fees and promoting “FULs for all” to gain public love OVER the safety aspect.

The more Trinis have FULs, the more incidents/accidents will occur.

I say again, the behavior from Trinis in this pandemic is disgusting and our position on the statistics is embarrassing…..and oh they want firearm. Smh
So you saying the red government criminal ppl and Venes that have illegal arm are more responsible?

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Phone Surgeon » December 6th, 2021, 10:05 am

for every civilian with a FUL who mistakenly shoot someone it must be have 10 police officers/ army personnel/prison officers who mistakenly shoot people while in work or mistakenly shoot themselves

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby *KRONIK* » December 6th, 2021, 10:13 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:for every civilian with a FUL who mistakenly shoot someone it must be have 10 police officers/ army personnel/prison officers who mistakenly shoot people while in work or mistakenly shoot themselves


Rofl

"Cleaning gun"

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » December 6th, 2021, 10:58 am

loll
for civilians it is adjusting garments
for the forces it is cleaning gun

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby j.o.e » December 6th, 2021, 11:01 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:lol the amount of FUL holders does be liming rising star, they would never enforce that.

they just hadda ban that idiot who shoot the woman


This. They just said that to save face

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby j.o.e » December 6th, 2021, 11:02 am

zoom rader wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:lol the amount of FUL holders does be liming rising star, they would never enforce that.

they just hadda ban that idiot who shoot the woman
Ent Rising Star is a UNC rum shop?


It used to be but Moonie and dem fellas don’t like to pay their tabs.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby hover11 » December 8th, 2021, 7:16 am

Rising Star: Don’t bring your guns


https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... ium=social

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Redman » December 8th, 2021, 7:24 am

They should put up a sign saying

Gun Free Zone
Rob here.

What a stupid move

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby alfa » December 8th, 2021, 7:37 am

Well guess which bar gonna attract criminals now. But I personally believe the owner must be carrying pipe as well being a businessman but just don't want his customers to

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby j.o.e » December 8th, 2021, 7:42 am

There is very secure and if you know anything about there a bandit will be easily outgunned. Besides that’s all about PR.

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby zoom rader » December 8th, 2021, 8:32 am

Redman wrote:They should put up a sign saying

Gun Free Zone
Rob here.

What a stupid move
Nah that's reserved for red government hot spots

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby pugboy » December 8th, 2021, 8:36 am

so where this rising star place located ?

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Re: Firearms User License HELP

Postby Redman » December 8th, 2021, 9:23 am

Jesse James robbed banks cuz thats where the money is.
Nobody shoots up police stations-cuz thats where the guns are,
School shootings are bad cuz theyre gun free zones.
Advertising yourself as a gun free zone is looking for trouble.

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