274 HP Hyundai....

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impressive is when u can make the 4-cyl inline engine do better than the prev v6...technology is the key........no matter who does it.........it's better to applaud successful constructive effort, rather than overplay 'done that already'....
'forward ever'........it's so applicable

[xtech]

impressive is when u can make the 4-cyl inline engine do better than the prev v6...technology is the key........no matter who does it.........it's better to applaud successful constructive effort, rather than overplay 'done that already'....
'forward ever'........it's so applicable

the previous V6 technology was limited to 276HP by the ECU itself on the Tiptron version an then further limited to 280HP on the manual version because of some stupid top power limit in the Japnese market.

The VR-4 6A13TT when unleashed is way almost double the stock horse power. The EVOs 2.0 liter was doing that for years as well.

Hyundai developed a GDI Turbo beast using a GDI 4G94 block as the base always using expired technology on their cars but this is the first time they made more power than in the original just by adding some MIVEC an a twinscroll turbo unit to take advantage of the high pressure exhaust flow at low RPM.

The preious GDI turbo which was a 4G93 1.8l pushed a measly Max Output 121 kW (165 PS) @ 5,500 rpm

[roctt]

you look like you need to do over CXC maths....no SEA

1996-2003 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4

2.5 DOHC 24V V6 Turbo AWD (276HP, 271 ft-lbs of torque)
5-speed manual/5-speed automatic
curb weight: 3400lbs
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2005-2007 Mazdaspeed 6 aka Mazda 6 MPS

2.3 DOHC 16V DISI SV-T Turbo AWD (274HP, 280 ft-lbs of torque)
6-speed manual
curb weight: 3589lbs

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2008-present Mazda 6

3.7 DOHC 24V SV-T V6 (272HP, 269 ft-lbs of torque)
6-speed automatic

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2010 Volkswagen Passat R36 VR6

3.6 DOHC 24V FSI V6 (300HP, 260 ft-lbs of torque)
6-speed DSG

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Suddenly the Sonata's specs aren't that impressive

[acesinghit]

you look like you need to do over CXC maths....no SEA

1996-2003 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4

2.5 DOHC 24V V6 Turbo AWD (276HP, 271 ft-lbs of torque)
5-speed manual/5-speed automatic
curb weight: 3400lbs
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2005-2007 Mazdaspeed 6 aka Mazda 6 MPS

2.3 DOHC 16V DISI SV-T Turbo AWD (274HP, 280 ft-lbs of torque)
6-speed manual
curb weight: 3589lbs

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2008-present Mazda 6

3.7 DOHC 24V SV-T V6 (272HP, 269 ft-lbs of torque)
6-speed automatic

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2010 Volkswagen Passat R36 VR6

3.6 DOHC 24V FSI V6 (300HP, 260 ft-lbs of torque)
6-speed DSG

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Suddenly the Sonata's specs aren't that impressive

next time think first b4 clicking submit, your fingers typing faster than what your tiny brain could comprehend

[zcarz]

^^ All of them are 6 cylinder and have higher displacements (3.6L and 2.5 V6 vs 2.0 4 cylinder) and get the same power. All except for the mazda (still has higher displacement though).

[rodfarva]

6 cylinder > 4 cylinder anyday

after 5 years of normal use, those suped up 4cyls will be in a mess.

[bushwakka]

8 cylinder > 6 cylinder anyday.....
after 5 years of normal use, those suped up 6cyls will be in a mess.

[xtech]

10 cylinder >8 cylinder anyday......

after 5 years normal use those suped up 8cyls will be in a mess

[Damien]

12 cylinder > 10 cylinder anyday......

after 5 years normal use those suped up 10cyls will be in a mess

[Rory Phoulorie]

Gas Turbine > Piston Power & Rotary Power

after 5 years normal use those suped up pistons and rotaries will be in a mess

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[zcarz]

6 cylinder > 4 cylinder anyday

after 5 years of normal use, those suped up 4cyls will be in a mess.

twasn't the point, good sir. i agree with you but, they won't be as efficient.

[acesinghit]

there is no way I'll choose a 2.0 turbo over a smooth 3.5/3.7 V6. With RAW HP on tap my engine not only lasts longer and sounds better but at least there is zero turbo lag. A modern V6 with dual VVT and DI would be just as efficient as those high boost 4 bangers. EPA figures are only estimates but in the real world those engines are impressive but still suck gas just like a 6-cylinder. Dunno what Hyundai was trying to prove but they should have just put DI and dual CVVT in the existing 3.3 and 3.8 V6 and call that George but then again they're not Honda or Nissan

[zcarz]

Gas Turbine > Piston Power & Rotary Power

after 5 years normal use those suped up pistons and rotaries will be in a mess

[/thread]

Fuel Cell > Gas Turbine
after 50 years normal use those gas engines won't have any fuel for it to work and will be in a mess