Ukraine Crisis / Russian Invasion

[TheBoostLord]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26405635

Ukraine has ordered a full military mobilisation in response to Russia's build-up of its forces in Crimea.

Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Ukraine was "on the brink of disaster".

In Crimea, Ukrainian soldiers faced off with Russian soldiers surrounding their bases while the Russian army is said to be digging trenches on the border with mainland Ukraine.

US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned Russia could be ejected from the Group of Eight developed nations.

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You just don't in the 21st Century behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext”

John Kerry
US secretary of state
Russian President Vladimir Putin, he said, was "not going to have a Sochi G8, he may not even remain in the G8 if this continues," referring to a planned summit in Russia in June.

"He may find himself with asset freezes, on Russian business. American business may pull back, there may be a further tumble of the rouble.

"You just don't in the 21st Century behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext," Mr Kerry told the CBS program Face the Nation.

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The facts on the ground are such that Russia, to a large extent, is already in control there ”

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Jonathan Marcus
BBC diplomatic correspondent
Moscow's Ukraine gamble
The UK has joined the US, France and Canada in suspending preparations for the Sochi summit.

Nato is conducting emergency talks, saying Russia's actions threaten "peace and security in Europe".

US President Barack Obama called Russian troop deployments a "violation of Ukrainian sovereignty".

Russian soldiers continue to occupy key sites on the Crimean peninsula, including airports and communications hubs, although there has been no actual violence.

In Moscow, police detained dozens of people at anti-war rallies outside the Russian defence ministry and at other spots in the city centre.


Soldiers apparently digging trenches at Armyansk, northern Crimea
Russian soldiers are apparently digging trenches on the strip of land joining Crimea to mainland Ukraine


This Russian convoy was moving from Sevastopol to Simferopol on Sunday




Ukrainian soldiers were surrounded by Russian troops at Perevalnoe, one of several stand-offs on the peninsula

Looks like chit is serious over there. Hope everyone learned sumn from CoD and BF games..

[spirited721]

Russia and germany gonna do their thing normal normal. America gonna beat up. Third world war in ah timing.
Source: Rum shop

[bujuization]

thankfully for now the US and UAE not stepping in against russia, although there was an *agreement* between Ukraine and the US after all their nuclear weapons were handed over to russia back in 1994.

[salvation4U]

2018.

[flvrufdwk]

You all don't realize how dangerous this situation is. Recall the Sudetenland crisis just before World War II when Germany invaded that region claiming to protect persons of German origin in Czechoslovakia. This is a powder keg waiting on a spark.

[maj. tom]

2014 is 100 years since World War One commenced. And here we are again.

This is a crisis we need to pay attention to. This is coming close to the remarkable ignorance of the superpowers during the Cold War. Close to the aggression displayed during the Cuban Missile Crisis, which was the closest we had ever come to WW3.

The Story:

Ukraine is key for Russia's energy supplies in oil and gas as well as access to trade through important port on the Black Sea. Crimea is very vital to trade routes, always has been in history and has lead to many wars in human history. When Russia was the Big Red Daddy Bear they took care of everything nicely. But now, 20 years after the Cold War ended, Ukraine wants to enter the EU and get benefits of such a trade alliance. The pro-Russian party currently in power voted against it, despite the majority of the population welcoming and desiring a union with the EU. This lead to massive protests and even murdering of their own civilians. No doubt Russia put enormous pressure on the Prime Minister who eventually stepped down last week.

So Russia needed a new plan. Stage a coup in Crimea with "unknown" gunmen, and like Budapest in 1956, Russia is stepping in to "help restore order and peace." Plain old Soviet Union tactics.




Canadian Prime Minister tells Putin to withdraw troops from Ukraine, pulls ambassador out of Russia, withdraws from G8 being chaired by Russia and officially recognizes legitimacy of new Ukrainian government.

UK pulls out of preparatory talks for G8 summit in Sochi.

'What Russia is doing now in Ukraine violates the principles of U.N. charter,' NATO Secretary General says.

Russia told to 'back off' by Australian PM Tony Abbott.

Ukraine declares total mobilization - News - World - The Voice of Russia.

Ukraine PM warns 'we are on the brink of disaster.'

Poland, Latvia and Lithuania officially request an emergency NATO meeting in regards to Ukraine, invoking article 4: any member state can convene a meeting of NATO members to consult when it feels its independence or security are threatened.

Obama told Putin he has violated international law: White House.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry calls Russia's military incursion into Ukraine `an incredible act of aggression"

France wants G-8 summit suspended over Ukraine.

[antlind]

I agree. But with Carnival around the corner this world crisis will have to take a back seat for the average Trini. Yuh know how it is. Putin is one crazy MF and this action on his part could very well lead to another world crisis. Hopefully calmer heads will prevail and Russia will pull back. If not, prepare yourself for some major action.

[Richard Marshall]

MW3. Sigh.

[flvrufdwk]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26408115

[flvrufdwk]

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/02/world ... ?hpt=hp_t1

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

This is very serious thing. Russia has the largest declared reserves of Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction in the world.

Don't worry with them retarded red necks who does say America can own anyone. Russia can destroy whole planet ten times over with 1 button. Russia is still the largest in the world and no one will ever dare oppose them for obvious reasons. We eh talking missile yet, them shutting off electricity to majority of Europe with 1 switch thats why they never joined the EU and have no reasons to.

So hopefully all this blows over and we can live in peace. Once I get old and dead then they could do what they want. Because we doh grow nothing in this country so if we food import get cut off we dead.

[Rainman]

What's the gas price this morning?

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

WOW sh!t just got real

Vladimir Putin has officially declared War on Ukraine

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... rimea-nato

Vladimir Putin has declared war on Ukraine, the acting prime minister in Kiev, Arseniy Yatseniuk, has said, as Ukraine called up its military reserves in readiness to fight but also ordered its troops to resist responding to Russian "provocations" for fear of triggering a bloodbath.

Russia is going to annex the Crimea but then again its theirs anyways. Ukraine should give it up peacefully since it don't even belong to them.

[Arcmanov]

...and the head of the Ukrainian Navy, who was just installed on Saturday, has already defected to the Russian side in Crimea...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431


Don't think that he made that decision 'jusso'.
Putin now has a convenient 'excuse' to move troops into Crimea.
The fact that the headquarters of Russia's Black Sea Naval Fleet resides there just solidifies his position.

Obama said there will be 'costs' if Russia invaded the Ukraine.
Well OhBee... Putin just called your bluff... What you gonna do other than whine from afar with your thumb up your ass?

[zoom rader]

This smells of the USA stirring up chit

[Dizzy28]

Hope the West dont leave Ukraine to pasture as they did the former Slavic republics and Syria. Fack the Ruskies!!!!

[Russellgold]

Wud trini be affected..?
but on a srs... Keep us updated guys...
Very interesting

[K74T]

Mail order all the brides!!!

[zoom rader]

Wud trini be affected..?
but on a srs... Keep us updated guys...
Very interesting

Yup, mostly oil men

[bujuization]

Wud trini be affected..?
but on a srs... Keep us updated guys...
Very interesting

Yup, mostly oil men

how so?

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

...and the head of the Ukrainian Navy, who was just installed on Saturday, has already defected to the Russian side in Crimea...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431


Don't think that he made that decision 'jusso'.
Putin now has a convenient 'excuse' to move troops into Crimea.
The fact that the headquarters of Russia's Black Sea Naval Fleet resides there just solidifies his position.

Obama said there will be 'costs' if Russia invaded the Ukraine.
Well OhBee... Putin just called your bluff... What you gonna do other than whine from afar with your thumb up your ass?

Obama cah do one fackjust look at the differences, putin eh fraid nobody. Why would he be with the weapons and army like that, even Bush wasn't retarded enough to invade Russia. And all them so called sanctions they going to place and cut off business with Russia, Putin will turn off the heat in the winter and let Europe Freeze if they go against him. Why would America spark a world war 3 with a country that posesses the largest reserves of Declared nuclear weapons just imagine the undeclared, its stalemate. Entire planet gone LOL

Russia is a giant. Nobody going to interfere with this, thats why they could do it with Georgia and get away, hold the Olympics and everybody will behave while they still in Georgia to this day.

[ModMania]

I cant wait to see how this ends...obama shittin bricks right about now.

[Yeo]

Russia gives ultimatum to Ukrainian forces in Crimea: Clear out within 11 hours or face 'military storm,' Russian state media report.
Russia has issued an ultimatum to Ukrainian forces in the Crimea to clear out by 5 a.m. Tuesday or face a "military storm," according to Russian state-run news agency Interfax, which cited a Ukrainian Defense Ministry source.

Aleksandr Vitko, Russia's Black Sea fleet commander, said that "ff they won't surrender by 5 a.m. tomorrow (10 p.m. ET Monday) there will be a military storm on all UA (Ukraine Armed) military forces all over Crimea," Interfax reported, citing a source in Ukraine's Defense Ministry.

A Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesman, Vladislav Seleznyov, told CNN that members of the Russian military are going to Ukrainian military bases in Crimea and demanding surrender. The Russian troops are threatening "harsh reaction" if the Ukrainians don't comply, Seleznyov said.

Ukraine Security Service spokesman Petro Tymchyshyn said there that Ukraine is not aware of any official Russian ultimatum.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/03/world/eur ... index.html

[shogun]

Trying to hold my tongue over this whole mess. Lets hope cooler heads prevail.

[Back2Studio]

The comparison...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26421703

[killercow]

It's interesting to note that the only country in
the world with a military arsenal more powerful
than Russia is the Unites States.

Here's the stats from the link posted above
as well as an additional for referencing.

^(Source: http://www.globalfirepower.com/)

[Arcmanov]

I don't think Obama wants to involve the US in yet another shooting war...with Russia least of all, over Ukraine.

Unless he can demonstrate directly how US interests are being affected, Congress and the populace will be having none of it.

Russia is no pushover like Iraq, or Afghanistan... there WILL be lots of 'deding'.

[Ted_v2]

I don't think Obama wants to involve the US in yet another shooting war...with Russia least of all, over Ukraine.

Unless he can demonstrate directly how US interests are being affected, Congress and the populace will be having none of it.

Russia is no pushover like Iraq, or Afghanistan... there WILL be lots of 'deding'.

truth.
He doesnt want to open up a can of worms,

[ruffrider27]

I don't think Obama wants to involve the US in yet another shooting war...with Russia least of all, over Ukraine.

Unless he can demonstrate directly how US interests are being affected, Congress and the populace will be having none of it.

Russia is no pushover like Iraq, or Afghanistan... there WILL be lots of 'deding'.

truth.
He doesnt want to open up a can of worms,

The resources Ukraine have , it's all worth fighting for

Ukraine has extremely rich and complementary mineral resources in high concentrations and close proximity to each other. Rich iron ore reserves located in the vicinity of Kryvyy Rih, Kremenchuk, Bilozer.


One of the richest areas of manganese-bearing ores in the world is located near Nikopol. Bituminous and anthracite coal used for coke are mined in the Donets Basin. Energy for thermal power stations is obtained using the large reserves of brown coal found in the Dnieper River basin (north of Kryvyy Rih) and the bituminous coal deposits of the Lviv-Volyn basin. The coal mines of Ukraine are among the deepest in Europe. Many of them are considered dangerous because their depth contributes to increased levels of methane; methane-related explosions have killed numerous Ukrainian miners.

[killercow]

The world is well aware of the military power Russia possesses.
No wonder unlike countries like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria
nobody even mention a word about deploying troops yet.

Everybody still wanna 'talk'. If any bloodshed start
most likely it'll turn out to be WWIII cuz Russia / Putin doh
fraid nobody and all dem middle-eastern countries that doh like
the US will certainly not jepoardise their relations with Russia.