Baby dies after head cut during C-section

[prav316]

And the Doc well enjoy himself in Mocha Carnival Sunday (the day after this happened) eh.

[hustla_ambition101]

And the Doc well enjoy himself in Mocha Carnival Sunday (the day after this happened) eh.

so he not human

[Dizzy28]

And the Doc well enjoy himself in Mocha Carnival Sunday (the day after this happened) eh.

What a coincidence, the consultant Doc who was on call was in Rotary on Carnival Saturday (the day the child was born).

Guess it sucks to have a baby during Carnival time.

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

maybe they should send Glenn to this doctor to check him!
Seriously- what is the outcome of this? where is th doctor now? is he still practicing?

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

maybe they should send Glenn to this doctor to check him!
Seriously- what is the outcome of this? where is th doctor now? is he still practicing?

[javishm]

maybe they should send Glenn to this doctor to check him!
Seriously- what is the outcome of this? where is th doctor now? is he still practicing?

Blv he is still on leave with pay

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

IS the inquiry finished? what was the outcome? has the doctors liscence been revoked permenantly?

[javishm]

i am sure its done n sure nothing came out of it

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-05- ... -completed

Probe into death of baby Simeon completed


Although the probe into the death of baby Simeon Cottle has been completed a report is yet to be handed in to Attorney General Anand Ramlogan. The probe was completed in late April. The head of the investigative team, retired Justice of Appeal Mustapha Ibrahim, gave the assurance in a telephone interview yesterday that the report would be delivered within the shortest possible time to Ramlogan.


On what was the time-frame to deliver the report Ibrahim said he could not give a definite answer but gave the assurance there would be no delay. “That is all I could really say at this time, but the report will be handed in very soon,” Ibrahim said. Baby Simeon’s head was slashed from ear to ear as his mother Quelly Ann Cottle underwent a C-section, resulting in his death. The surgery was done at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, Mt Hope on Carnival Saturday.

The doctor who did the operation remains on suspension pending the outcome of the independent investigation. On March 17, Ramlogan named the team to do the investigation. Apart from Ibrahim it included consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist at the University College London Hospitals Dr Melanie Clare Davies and neonatologist and former head of the neo-natal unit at the Port-of-Spain General Hospital Dr Petronella Manning-Alleyne.

An autopsy found that the baby died from a laceration to the head which caused massive blood loss and hypovolaemic shock. A number of witnesses have already been interviewed, including Cottle, doctors and nurses. The investigative team also toured the Mt Hope Women’s Hospital. When the team was first introduced to members of the media on April 25, Ibrahim said although the matter was a civil one, if there was evidence that criminal charges ought to be laid, then that would be the case.

He also said then that one of the issues which would be examined extensively was how to improve the neonatal system. Ramlogan had said because the medical profession was so close-knit there was a great reluctance on the part of doctors to testify against their colleagues.

[Spitfir3]

carry on

[ADONI]

The doctor should of youtube "C-Section" before he cut to know how its done.

[javishm]

wait what this happened?

[RIPEBREDFRUIT]

So the case has been sent to the DPP's office pending investigation, doctor could be charged.
Imagine some people want forgiveness for the doctor.
Absolute neglect for an unborn baby and you want forgiveness?

[88sins]

real question is if they charging him is with what. & knowing the person & his family's political connections, I doubt this will get very far.
But time will tell.

[pugboy]

Poor doc javed going down as first in history to get string up.
From the newspaper report i think the on call consultant doc who did not show up should be more seriously dealt with.
Shame that it took foreign investigator to lead the charge unlike the noises from mpatt

[hustla_ambition101]

Too much emotion has already prejudiced this case, how is he to get a fair hearing if 95% of T&T are of the opinion that he should be charged.

[pugboy]

Nothing to prejudice really, according to report he admit error

[hustla_ambition101]

Are surgeries 100% incident free? He alone cannot shoulder the blame, the entire unit that was rostered for that shift has to face any action taken.

[88sins]

not when HE was the one holding the blade, & going beyond the limitations set upon him by his superiors.
if he implicates his superiors & they are found guilty of neglect/misconduct or admit to being culpable, then fine by all means charge them.
all surgical procedures carry risks hustla. & there are acceptable levels of risk for each type of surgical procedure. but that length & depth of a gash on a fetus' skull is not a normal thing to happen, would not even be considered a remote risk if proper surgical technique & protocols are observed by th surgeon, & can only occur if care is not taken. that is why he is primarily to blame.

[pugboy]

We need the full report ventilated and not kept secret.
Too much ole talk and mauvais langue about carnival party etc

[bignog]

Hustla the doc brushing yuh owa ? How yuh defending he so wen Steve wonder could see how ridiculous a cut this experienced man made was overkill .......if I walked on water...they would still condemn me for not swimming ........

[hustla_ambition101]

^^You see the entire report or just talking out your ass?

[pugboy]

being able to fully investigate and publicize these things is the only way to move forward as a progressive society.

doctors(and lawyers) need to be honest and willing to face the facts of any investigation
the ordinary man is able to question and ask a mechanic why his car was not fixed properly
try doing that with some of them docs

[De Dragon]

being able to fully investigate and publicize these things is the only way to move forward as a progressive society.

doctors(and lawyers) need to be honest and willing to face the facts of any investigation
the ordinary man is able to question and ask a mechanic why his car was not fixed properly
try doing that with some of them docs

We have to get this God complex out of our thinking. Imagine the investigation team couldn't find a single case like this in any recognized medical journal or publication! Yes the doctor made a mistake, but he has to be held accountable for a mistake of this magnitude.

[Richard Marshall]

being able to fully investigate and publicize these things is the only way to move forward as a progressive society.

doctors(and lawyers) need to be honest and willing to face the facts of any investigation
the ordinary man is able to question and ask a mechanic why his car was not fixed properly
try doing that with some of them docs

We have to get this God complex out of our thinking. Imagine the investigation team couldn't find a single case like this in any recognized medical journal or publication! Yes the doctor made a mistake, but he has to be held accountable for a mistake of this magnitude.

What do you mean by God complex?

[De Dragon]

being able to fully investigate and publicize these things is the only way to move forward as a progressive society.

doctors(and lawyers) need to be honest and willing to face the facts of any investigation
the ordinary man is able to question and ask a mechanic why his car was not fixed properly
try doing that with some of them docs

We have to get this God complex out of our thinking. Imagine the investigation team couldn't find a single case like this in any recognized medical journal or publication! Yes the doctor made a mistake, but he has to be held accountable for a mistake of this magnitude.

What do you mean by God complex?

Can God do wrong?

[pioneer]

The doctor should not be punished.

Next time force patients to sign disclaimer forms when they agree to have a c-section done.

[88sins]

ohgooooooooorm pios

you agaaaaaaaaain

[Ted_v2]

Next time force patients to sign disclaimer forms when they agree to have a c-section done.

isnt this done at private hospitals?

[88sins]

1 for the surgeon, 1 for the hospital & 1 for the anesthesiologist. usually comes as 3 separate waivers, & is usually as protection from litigation arising from complications patients may have that are no fault of the doctors or hospital.

those types of waivers don't apply to cases like this where negligence is glaringly evident

& that's still not a foolproof form of protection either. a patient or next of kin could use some weird unverifiable signature & deny ever seeing that waiver. doc & hospital would look like they trying to cover their own behind by forgery if that happens. a person might get thru wit legal proceedings, or maybe even hush money if they want to resolve the issue quickly & quietly