Use of garden hoses etc. Illegal from Saturday (19th March)

[amd-dude]

All my years growing up we use to hardly have water now as ah have they want to charge me, boy fork them I using as I want let them come and give me ticket ah soaking them too.

[Twin Isle Cars n' Parts]

All my years growing up we use to hardly have water now as ah have they want to charge me, boy fork them I using as I want let them come and give me ticket ah soaking them too.

Lol!!!

[Spitfir3]

brb spraying dong meh noni

[Miktay]

Middle East Summers Could Become Unlivable By End Of Century
The "father of global warming" has a dire warning for people living in hot, tropical locales.
03/02/2016 11:15 am ET | Updated 1 hour ago
Alexander C. Kaufman
Senior Business Editor, The Huffington Post

ALTRENDO NATURE VIA GETTY IMAGES
James Hansen has a dire warning for the Middle East and tropical areas: Summer is coming.

By the end of the century, the so-called "father of global warming" predicts that rising temperatures caused by human-induced climate change will render the countries that already experience hot summers unlivable during those months.

"The tropics and the Middle East in summer are in danger of becoming practically uninhabitable by the end of the century if business-as-usual fossil fuel emissions continue, because wet bulb temperature could approach the level at which the human body is unable to cool itself even under well-ventilated outdoor conditions," Hansen, an adjunct professor at Colombia University's Earth Institute, wrote in anew paper published Wednesday and co-authored with his colleague Makiko Sato.

The Blame Game

Hansen's prediction means places in central Africa, Southeast Asia and the already conflict-ridden Middle East will suffer some of the most devastating effects of climate change, despite historically being far less to blame for carbon emissions than the industrialized Northern Hemisphere. The United States and Europe are responsible for more than a quarter of all human-made emissions. China is on the hook for another 10 percent, Hansen said.


JAMES HANSEN AND MAKIKO SATO
This chart, included in the paper, shows how individuals in the United States and United Kingdom bear the most responsibility for the carbon emissions causing climate change.
"There is thus the striking incongruity between locations of largest climate change and responsibility for fossil fuel emissions," the researchers wrote.

Therein lies the problem that has dogged environmental policymakers for the better part of the last decade. For the most part, countries that face the worst effects of climate change benefited the least from the fossil fuel era that caused it. They are therefore less prepared to pay for the economic and environmental overhauls needed to avert a temperature rise about 2 degrees Celsius, after which point scientists predict global warming will render the climate unrecognizable.

"Lesser warming still makes life more difficult and reduces productivity in these regions, because temperatures are approaching the limit of human tolerance and both agricultural and construction work are mainly outdoor activities," the researchers wrote. "Middle latitude countries have a near optimum average temperature for work productivity, while warmer countries such as Indonesia, India and Nigeria are on a steep slope with rapidly declining productivity as temperature rises."

Drums Of War

What makes this more concerning is the fact that all three of those countries have fast-growing populations that need food, housing and jobs in order to live prosperously. Absent those resources, conflict arises. The civil war that has ravaged Syria for nearly five years may have been caused, in part, by a drought that began in 2006 and forced many farmers from their fields into the cities to find work, according to a 2014 study by the American Meteorological Society.

"You had a lot of angry, unemployed men helping to trigger a revolution," Aaron Wolf, a water management expert at Oregon State University, told Smithsonian Magazine in 2013.

Indeed, interpersonal conflict rises by 4 percent and fighting between groups increases by 14 percent for each slight increase of temperature, according to an assembly of 60 quantitative studies covering all regions of the world, cited by Hansen in the new paper.

What Can We Do?

There is hope. The historic climate accord reached in Paris in December may not have had legally binding goals, but it signaled to business leaders and policymakers around the world that humanity was ready, for the first time, to come together to address climate change. In that sense, it set out a framework for shifting to a low-carbon economy. A growing number of businesses have vowed to wean off fossil fuels over the next decade. Plans to regrow forests and absorb carbonalready in the atmosphere are taking shape.

But no meaningful change can take place, Hansen concludes, unless governments put a tax on carbon, a method favored by economists for mitigating the effects of global warming.

"The overall message that climate science delivers to society, policymakers, and the public alike is this: We have a global emergency," Hansen and Sato wrote. "It will be necessary to include a carbon fee that allows the external costs of fossil fuels to be incorporated in their price. Border duties on products from countries without a carbon fee would lead to most nations adopting a carbon

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[shogun]

Already almost impossible to venture outside at certain hours of the day... sunblock/screen barely feel like it's making a dent.

[j.o.e]

Neighbour is having his entire yard and roof powerwashed today

[shogun]

They need to come powerwash our dogs.

We can still bathe the smaller one in the bathroom, but without the hose we not sure what to do with the bigger one. We might have to wrestle his arse inside and bathe him in the bathroom too, yes. That gonna be a task

[mark2.0]

People using hose as normal...

[Premchand1976]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

[shogun]

Preach Premchand!

[EmilioA]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

[*$kїđž!™]

Any reports of any one charged as yet......?

[nervewrecker]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

[DVSTT]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

How much will it cost to have some native tribes do a rain dance?

[S_2NR]

Any reports of any one charged as yet......?

No. Nobody cares

[bluesclues]

Man on the main road spraying down they hilux. Pass an hr later man still spraying down with he high power hose. #dgaf #2muchwaternot2havewater

[mark2.0]

Tanty next door hosing down plant every morning and evening.

[jm3]

Just put the water in a meter and increase its price people will quickly stop wasting it.

[EmilioA]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

You know we have 4 desal plants already and plans for 2 more ?

[redmanjp]

Just put the water in a meter and increase its price people will quickly stop wasting it.

this might be a good idea but do it in phases-

first install meters for everyone but continue the current pricing system.
When the bill comes each customer gets to see how much water they use, and a comparison to perhaps their neighbours. Wasa themselves can see what the average household uses so it can decide what is a fair price per unit of water.
Take off vat, duty, online tax, etc. from water efficient toilets and other devices.
Then in 2 yrs you can switch to the new metered pricing system as by now people would have reduced their usage in anticipation of it.
Also for electricity too- it's already metered but has different rates for different amounts of usage- perhaps on the higher end increase it so people that exceed 1000kwh would pay like 50cents/kwh for the extra above 1000kwh.

[shogun]

Just put the water in a meter and increase its price people will quickly stop wasting it.

this might be a good idea but do it in phases-

first install meters for everyone but continue the current pricing system.
When the bill comes each customer gets to see how much water they use, and a comparison to perhaps their neighbours. Wasa themselves can see what the average household uses so it can decide what is a fair price per unit of water.
Take off vat, duty, online tax, etc. from water efficient toilets and other devices.
Then in 2 yrs you can switch to the new metered pricing system as by now people would have reduced their usage in anticipation of it.
Also for electricity too- it's already metered but has different rates for different amounts of usage- perhaps on the higher end increase it so people that exceed 1000kwh would pay like 50cents/kwh for the extra above 1000kwh.

As long as it's done in conjunction with WASA also seeking to become more efficient, I'm all for it

[Redman]

That metering project 'on' for years now.

But it presents a problem for WASA

Wasa is pumping 100 gallons of water but customers receiving 40.

That level of accountability isnt something you can get rid of by burning it.

[nervewrecker]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

You know we have 4 desal plants already and plans for 2 more ?

How many times have we stayed on the path towards sustainable development?

[tiger balm]

Any reports of any one charged as yet......?

No. Nobody cares

Yes. Saturday Newsday reported that some people got charged. Think it was 10 people in total. They were from a wide range of places, like Tunapuna, Tobago, Arima (?).

Not seeing the article online, and I don't have the papers

[EmilioA]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

You know we have 4 desal plants already and plans for 2 more ?

How many times have we stayed on the path towards sustainable development?

That's not an answer. If you know nothing about the desal plants just say so.

[nervewrecker]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

You know we have 4 desal plants already and plans for 2 more ?

How many times have we stayed on the path towards sustainable development?

That's not an answer. If you know nothing about the desal plants just say so.

I happen to know it's energy intensive and costs taxpayers more per gallon than it would be to treat a gallon of fresh water from a source that is of exceptional quality.
But as laws aren't enforced and the environment is neglected our fresh water reserves quality drop so it now costs more per gallon.
As the costs increase and some cannot be treated with the conventional methods we now have to turn to desalination. It's expensive and it wouldn't have cost anything to enforce the law and protect the environment.

What's your argument again?

[Premchand1976]

So after all who know and all who doh know bout the desalination etc etc......what else can we do immediately to remedy this......doh say stop using hose and bathe in one bucket ah water instead ah 4 and dem kinda ting......we trinis don't know how to obey / follow laws and instructions too well and if it forced on we well is more rebellion.........I just think we taking too long to handle ah annual problem.........

[EmilioA]

There was some talk years ago about digging new reservoirs etc.

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

You know we have 4 desal plants already and plans for 2 more ?

How many times have we stayed on the path towards sustainable development?

That's not an answer. If you know nothing about the desal plants just say so.

I happen to know it's energy intensive and costs taxpayers more per gallon than it would be to treat a gallon of fresh water from a source that is of exceptional quality.
But as laws aren't enforced and the environment is neglected our fresh water reserves quality drop so it now costs more per gallon.
As the costs increase and some cannot be treated with the conventional methods we now have to turn to desalination. It's expensive and it wouldn't have cost anything to enforce the law and protect the environment.

What's your argument again?

What are the desal plants doing NOW ?

[nervewrecker]

Man, I ask myself, how come these fools wait for the dry season to act ? How come they don't make plans to dig dams or huge reservoirs during the rainy seasons to collect all.the flood water from caparo and south and St. Augustine and even pos ????? Flick them.....I shouldn't have to apply restrictions to my comfort each year because they too dotish to plan ahead.....recession, taxes, high grocery prices and crime on the upsurge......That's enough for us to deal with for now......get allyuh business in order wasa and company.

Is a pond you feel you digging ?

A new reservoir is a multi year project. and it go probably have to start in the dry season so the rain dont wash away the construction.

Separately the 4 new desal plants were supposed to remove the need for a new reservoir. I wondering what them doing .

1 - we in dry season

2 - desal plants have a high operating cost. might be cheaper to dig the reservoir.

You know we have 4 desal plants already and plans for 2 more ?

How many times have we stayed on the path towards sustainable development?

That's not an answer. If you know nothing about the desal plants just say so.

I happen to know it's energy intensive and costs taxpayers more per gallon than it would be to treat a gallon of fresh water from a source that is of exceptional quality.
But as laws aren't enforced and the environment is neglected our fresh water reserves quality drop so it now costs more per gallon.
As the costs increase and some cannot be treated with the conventional methods we now have to turn to desalination. It's expensive and it wouldn't have cost anything to enforce the law and protect the environment.

What's your argument again?

What are the desal plants doing NOW ?

What kind of question is that?

Make your point plz. I don't think we both on the same page here.

[nemram]

Desal plants in production. Think pt Lisas one ha to do maintenance work soon.

A new reservoir is long term project 3-5 years as they ha to do studies and determine land size, what rivers gonna full it, get EMA approvals, get money to do project, acquire lands, etc and that's even before project start.

It not as easy as dig ah hole, put a dam wall n start producing. Besides WASA handicapped by government funding so doh hold your hopes high.