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The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 23rd, 2017, 1:45 pm

matr1x wrote:I just showed you how stupid the idea of God is.

You're welcome



Ok so i already established you cant read and understand much-less impart sound knowledge to another. So if you think that is what you did, here have a . Lol

Oh i'm sorry u were being a real comedian or atheist here?
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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 23rd, 2017, 3:11 pm

Tar Baby wrote:
matr1x wrote:I just showed you how stupid the idea of God is.

You're welcome


It's not something you can hope to reason out of them.
There has to be a willingness to challenge their beliefs. Unfortunately it has been beaten into them since inception and the roots of willful ignorance run deep.

Many times i have questioned myself and arrived back at the same position. I know for a fact something changed in me. And i haven't gone to church since before and after I've been saved so i don't know who beat what into me. I do remember a willingness to know the truth and that was it. But say what, all who have read here cannot say they were never told in the end.

The foundation of religion is slowly being eroded as generations pass and atheism is becoming less taboo. It's getting harder to BS kids since everything they could ever want to know is now at the touch of their fingertips.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 23rd, 2017, 5:41 pm

The ultimate joke is any religion texts. Do you realize how stupid it sounds?

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Postby eitech » June 23rd, 2017, 5:52 pm

matr1x wrote:The ultimate joke is any religion texts. Do you realize how stupid it sounds?


I know how stupid you sound. Interpret that anyway you like.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 23rd, 2017, 8:15 pm

I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.

The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.

Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.

I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 23rd, 2017, 9:23 pm

matr1x wrote:I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.

The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.

Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.

I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil



How can you believe in reality when ur in fact blinded to the truth? The reality u perceive is a lie and you are held captive by it because it soothes your illogical mind. The devil did a wonderful job of convincing u that God is not real. Oh you don't believe in the devil, i forgot. That sucks since ur one of his lil play toys.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby desifemlove » June 24th, 2017, 7:01 am

Who says a wise man didn't write the Bible? he has a point, who says it's divinely inspired?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 7:06 am

eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.

The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.

Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.

I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil



How can you believe in reality when ur in fact blinded to the truth? The reality u perceive is a lie and you are held captive by it because it soothes your illogical mind. The devil did a wonderful job of convincing u that God is not real. Oh you don't believe in the devil, i forgot. That sucks since ur one of his lil play toys.


Let's play your game...

What proof you have the devil is a bad guy? Can you prove hell is a place where bad people go? Can you prove is a place of fire and torture?

What about molester priests, do they go to heaven?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 7:30 am

matr1x wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.

The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.

Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.

I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil



How can you believe in reality when ur in fact blinded to the truth? The reality u perceive is a lie and you are held captive by it because it soothes your illogical mind. The devil did a wonderful job of convincing u that God is not real. Oh you don't believe in the devil, i forgot. That sucks since ur one of his lil play toys.


Let's play your game...

What proof you have the devil is a bad guy? Can you prove hell is a place where bad people go? Can you prove is a place of fire and torture?


What about molester priests, do they go to heaven?



Oh you want to play some more? Weren't you playing atheist/ comedian all along? Now you want me to answer your questions when you keep avoiding specific ones I asked you. Na it don't work that way.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 7:43 am

But you are the religious one. These should be easy for you.

You cannot photograph gravity in the traditional sense since it's not emitting light.

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Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 8:18 am

matr1x wrote:But you are the religious one. These should be easy for you.

You misinterpret not wanting to answer for cannot answer. Nothin new, again. And again , i answered all these questions before, but again, you forget and now want me to repeat. Wam you get a new audience or google start to wok? Ur questions have always been unlearned and foolish?

You cannot photograph gravity in the traditional sense since it's not emitting light.

You now look to answer this question here after a week. But you still really did not answer the question. It was brought up in a context that's why i asked. You know this! But u avoided the answer cuz it was a foolish reference you made. Since ur such a science fact and reality guy y didn't u gimme this answer a week ago? Lol. I saw through that gimmick long time.


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 8:31 am

Simple answer : I didn't answer because you not that important. I got around to it when I felt like it.

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Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 8:34 am

matr1x wrote:Simple answer : I didn't answer because you not that important. I got around to it when I felt like it.


Ok i hear you. I also share the same sentiments Dont feel i cannot answer your "easy" questions.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 9:17 am

I know you can't.


There is no proof or gods of any religion. Round the bush analogies are not proof. Evidence is proof

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 2:51 pm

He knows that he can't prove god exists because he doesn't have any measurably, provable evidence. The bible is not proof. It's just scribbles.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 4:38 pm

matr1x wrote:I know you can't.


There is no proof or gods of any religion. Round the bush analogies are not proof. Evidence is proof


Strange. Wasn't gettin through to post. Any ways. Awww you thought cuz i took long i didnt have an answer? How thoughtful of you. Lol

You know I cant repeat myself over and over? I do it right through. But i saw through that remark. Another unlearned and foolish attempt at something else. Lol. Come na man be reasonable with yourself at the very least. After all this time? Gimme ah bligh na. You know i could answer. Oh i am sorry. You want real proof that i can't.lol


Riiight. You know you have a way with words and ur so right. The God i serve does not subscribe to any religion. He is not a JW, SDA, RC, hindu, muslim etc. so of course u wont have proof of him. In christ there is no religion. Well done sir. Right again. I am impressed albeit you ain't know what you said.lol. I will assume you have on the comedian hat now cuz that was straight up hilarious.

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Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 4:41 pm

matr1x wrote:He knows that he can't prove god exists because he doesn't have any measurably, provable evidence. The bible is not proof. It's just scribbles.


Lol. Well i want you to disprove that God exists and that my experience is not real. Go ahead. Use any measurable resources you have. Hint: you will fail

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 5:09 pm

As for your experience, I need more facts than you provided. Best guess, you have gone through some suppressed trauma in your past and your interpretation is divine. Or a mental health issue. Most people who have visions and such, have been shown to have issues.

I could go into the facts of God's non-existent nature. Whether it be lack of proof of existing, issues with him being able to build a universe, where did the resources come from, how can he be matched by the devil. If he is perfect, then how his creations are not.

The fact that none of the religious accounts have any facts to back up claims is further proof that God does not have evidence of existence.

The question is, what proof will you accept that god does not exist? If your faith trains you to disbelieve against such ideas and to come up with fantasy explanation why the proof isn't enough.

In a separate issue: we heard earlier someone justify the mass murder of native American people for their non belief. As a part Carib descendant, this shows that Christianity is a evil force. It saddens me that some of my people joined Christianity. It's like Jews becoming nazis.

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Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 5:46 pm

matr1x wrote:As for your experience, I need more facts than you provided. Best guess, you have gone through some suppressed trauma in your past and your interpretation is divine. Or a mental health issue. Most people who have visions and such, have been shown to have issues.

I could go into the facts of God's non-existent nature. Whether it be lack of proof of existing, issues with him being able to build a universe, where did the resources come from, how can he be matched by the devil. If he is perfect, then how his creations are not.

The fact that none of the religious accounts have any facts to back up claims is further proof that God does not have evidence of existence.

The question is, what proof will you accept that god does not exist? If your faith trains you to disbelieve against such ideas and to come up with fantasy explanation why the proof isn't enough.

In a separate issue: we heard earlier someone justify the mass murder of native American people for their non belief. As a part Carib descendant, this shows that Christianity is a evil force. It saddens me that some of my people joined Christianity. It's like Jews becoming nazis.


Tell me something, all those facts of God and what not, are they your personal research? Did you conduct the experiments? Did you search all over the world or in your local library to come up with that conclusion? Or are you just repeating the research done by "others"?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 24th, 2017, 6:55 pm

It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.

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Postby eitech » June 24th, 2017, 7:50 pm

matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby abducted » June 25th, 2017, 12:22 am

eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.

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Postby eitech » June 25th, 2017, 2:51 am

abducted wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.



Yes you can but there is only one truth.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 25th, 2017, 2:52 am

eitech wrote:
abducted wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.



Yes you can but there is only one truth.

And if you find it you will know

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 25th, 2017, 2:54 am

eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
abducted wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.



Yes you can but there is only one truth.
And if you find it you will know.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 25th, 2017, 2:56 am

eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
abducted wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.



Yes you can but there is only one truth.
And when you find it you will know. I do not make random statements. I know why i say the things say.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 25th, 2017, 3:47 am

eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
abducted wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.



Yes you can but there is only ONE truth. All cannot be the truth.
And when you find it you will know. I do not make random statements. I know why i say the things say.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 25th, 2017, 3:47 am

eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
eitech wrote:
abducted wrote:
eitech wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.

Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.


Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?

If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.



Yes you can but there is only ONE truth. All cannot be the truth.
And when you find it you will know. I do not make random statements. I know why i say the things say.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 25th, 2017, 4:55 am

I have proof of gravity. I found it while walking down the road the other day. I put it in my pocket and when i got home i put it in a jar.

Now, where is your proof?

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