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matr1x wrote:I just showed you how stupid the idea of God is.
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Tar Baby wrote:matr1x wrote:I just showed you how stupid the idea of God is.
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It's not something you can hope to reason out of them.
There has to be a willingness to challenge their beliefs. Unfortunately it has been beaten into them since inception and the roots of willful ignorance run deep.
Many times i have questioned myself and arrived back at the same position. I know for a fact something changed in me. And i haven't gone to church since before and after I've been saved so i don't know who beat what into me. I do remember a willingness to know the truth and that was it. But say what, all who have read here cannot say they were never told in the end.
The foundation of religion is slowly being eroded as generations pass and atheism is becoming less taboo. It's getting harder to BS kids since everything they could ever want to know is now at the touch of their fingertips.
matr1x wrote:The ultimate joke is any religion texts. Do you realize how stupid it sounds?
matr1x wrote:I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.
The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.
Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.
I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil
eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.
The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.
Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.
I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil
How can you believe in reality when ur in fact blinded to the truth? The reality u perceive is a lie and you are held captive by it because it soothes your illogical mind. The devil did a wonderful job of convincing u that God is not real. Oh you don't believe in the devil, i forgot. That sucks since ur one of his lil play toys.
matr1x wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:I assume you prescribe to the Christian malarkey. The one where God sent his son, who is himself on a suicide mission. The one where God murdered more ppl than the devil.
The books written by heresay than first hand writing it himself.
Religion has no basis, but the delusional thinking of some.
I believe in facts and reality. Not magical fantasy like God and devil
How can you believe in reality when ur in fact blinded to the truth? The reality u perceive is a lie and you are held captive by it because it soothes your illogical mind. The devil did a wonderful job of convincing u that God is not real. Oh you don't believe in the devil, i forgot. That sucks since ur one of his lil play toys.
Let's play your game...
What proof you have the devil is a bad guy? Can you prove hell is a place where bad people go? Can you prove is a place of fire and torture?
What about molester priests, do they go to heaven?
matr1x wrote:But you are the religious one. These should be easy for you.
You misinterpret not wanting to answer for cannot answer. Nothin new, again. And again , i answered all these questions before, but again, you forget and now want me to repeat. Wam you get a new audience or google start to wok? Ur questions have always been unlearned and foolish?
You cannot photograph gravity in the traditional sense since it's not emitting light.
You now look to answer this question here after a week. But you still really did not answer the question. It was brought up in a context that's why i asked. You know this! But u avoided the answer cuz it was a foolish reference you made. Since ur such a science fact and reality guy y didn't u gimme this answer a week ago? Lol. I saw through that gimmick long time.
matr1x wrote:Simple answer : I didn't answer because you not that important. I got around to it when I felt like it.
matr1x wrote:I know you can't.
There is no proof or gods of any religion. Round the bush analogies are not proof. Evidence is proof
matr1x wrote:He knows that he can't prove god exists because he doesn't have any measurably, provable evidence. The bible is not proof. It's just scribbles.
matr1x wrote:As for your experience, I need more facts than you provided. Best guess, you have gone through some suppressed trauma in your past and your interpretation is divine. Or a mental health issue. Most people who have visions and such, have been shown to have issues.
I could go into the facts of God's non-existent nature. Whether it be lack of proof of existing, issues with him being able to build a universe, where did the resources come from, how can he be matched by the devil. If he is perfect, then how his creations are not.
The fact that none of the religious accounts have any facts to back up claims is further proof that God does not have evidence of existence.
The question is, what proof will you accept that god does not exist? If your faith trains you to disbelieve against such ideas and to come up with fantasy explanation why the proof isn't enough.
In a separate issue: we heard earlier someone justify the mass murder of native American people for their non belief. As a part Carib descendant, this shows that Christianity is a evil force. It saddens me that some of my people joined Christianity. It's like Jews becoming nazis.
matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
abducted wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.
eitech wrote:abducted wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.
Yes you can but there is only one truth.
eitech wrote:eitech wrote:abducted wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.
eitech wrote:eitech wrote:eitech wrote:abducted wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.
eitech wrote:eitech wrote:eitech wrote:eitech wrote:abducted wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.
Yes you can but there is only ONE truth. All cannot be the truth.
And when you find it you will know. I do not make random statements. I know why i say the things say.
eitech wrote:eitech wrote:eitech wrote:eitech wrote:eitech wrote:abducted wrote:eitech wrote:matr1x wrote:It's a combination of some. Based on research based on reputable sources.
Also, the research focuses on the claims rhat god did and over time the case for god fades away. God fails basic research questions.
Ok fair enough. That's one side of the argument. So have you ever examined the other side's evidence for the existence of God. And i will just use my belief for simplicity. For example, have you ever used the bible and attempt to prove God's existence for yourself by following the instructions therein?
If you use the Bible to prove that the God of the Bible is true then you must use the Quran to say Allah and his Prophet are true and The Gita that Hindu deities are true.
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