The Religion Discussion

[maj. tom]

To Properly explain something, scientific investigation wants to know ALL the processes. As instruments get better, further investigation can be done.

Explain how God made the solar system?

As for flat earth. Stupidest idea ever.

Another stupid question is " How God made the solar system?" Lol he probably had a chisel and hammer or he jus spoke it into existence.It's like asking who created God.

Exacly.how did he do that?

Jus humour me for a moment: there is one Creator, who created the entire universe. Just entertain that thought for a moment. Do you think you can ever fathom how he created the universe? U might try to understand but you never will.

ok so who created God?

[eitech]

All i see here is that you just don't want to understand how something works. You are quite afraid of something suddenly making sense and undermining the beliefs that created your psychological foundations since childhood.

Please don't be afraid. You can really see the amazing wonder and beauty of creation as it is without the stories you were told all your life. What if no one told you those stories? how would you discover the natural world around us on your own? Through experiments right?

Jus to correct you, i wasn't told a bunch of stories all my life. There was a time i didn't believe in God just like you. Then jus under two years ago i got saved, not of anyone's pressure but of my own choosing. Now i know there is a God, someone behind all the beautiful creation you see.

[maj. tom]

so before two years ago, you never used to ask yourself all these questions about creation and such? There was a huge void in this sort of reasoning?

[eitech]

To Properly explain something, scientific investigation wants to know ALL the processes. As instruments get better, further investigation can be done.

Explain how God made the solar system?

As for flat earth. Stupidest idea ever.

Another stupid question is " How God made the solar system?" Lol he probably had a chisel and hammer or he jus spoke it into existence.It's like asking who created God.

Exacly.how did he do that?

Jus humour me for a moment: there is one Creator, who created the entire universe. Just entertain that thought for a moment. Do you think you can ever fathom how he created the universe? U might try to understand but you never will.

ok so who created God?

Man look at your question. You are not serious.

But fine a bunch of reputable scientists did an experiment and got some findings. Why dont you try the other side of the argument and prove to urself, not others, that God is real. Or are you jus satisfied with a sided result?

[maj. tom]

Yes i am quite serious! You make a claim about the creator of the universe and everything in it.
Everything has a beginning. So who created God? Was he always there? Forever? Forever is a really longggggggg time. Was he there 1 second before forever in the past?

Or is it you just hit a mental block because you never asked yourself that question? And you have proven that God is real to yourself but to no one else?

[bluesclues]

You do know that cosmology and astronomy have a pretty good idea the cause of expansion in the universe. Have you met an astronomer or astrophysicist by the way?

You know who has no clue? Pastors. They can't explain genesis in light of cosmic evidence.

Here is a question that could have gotten you burned back in the day.


Choose the best estimate of the diameter of the Earth.

A. 1,000 miles.
B. 10,000 miles.
C. 100,000 miles.
D. 1,000,000 miles.
E. 10,000,000 miles

You do know that the inference 'the universe is expanding' is a 'theory' dont you. science accurately states that IT SEEMS that way. why do you speak like you are sure that's the way it is.

[eitech]

Yes i am quite serious! You make a claim about the creator of the universe and everything in it.
Everything has a beginning. So who created God? Was he always there? Forever? Forever is a really longggggggg time. Was he there 1 second before forever in the past?

Or is it you just hit a mental block because you never asked yourself that question? And you have proven that God is real to yourself but to no one else?

Your problem is that you cannot fathom such a being existing and that's the same thing i said before. You trying to understand with your finite mind something that is infinite.

[eitech]

Before my question gets lost in here, let me ask it. I cannot prove to you that God is real. But let's speculate, if I could, how would you know what i am showing you is real?
So, why don't you prove to yourself that God is real so at the end of the day, you cannot say no one deceived you.
Do you even know how you go about doing that?
Or are you too scared of learning all what you knew was a lie?

[maj. tom]

No i really can fathom that. Everyone can imagine that. Why would you think that you alone can understand God? But a lot of people investigated and found no evidence. Then, painfully, and with much effort and hard work they have come up with other explanations. Life be so simple if we had all the answers in that all powerful protective God above. It's just unfortunate that a lot of people want to know more and just could not find the answers you have.

Have you found evidence to share with all of us who have always been looking?

[maj. tom]

Before my question gets lost in here, let me ask it. I cannot prove to you that God is real. But let's speculate, if I could, how would you know what i am showing you is real?
So, why don't you prove to yourself that God is real so at the end of the day, you cannot say no one deceived you.
Do you even know how you go about doing that?
Or are you too scared of learning all what you knew was a lie?

how to prove this to myself? also, what is the point of just knowing something for myself and not being able to share it with others? That's like learning to play music and never letting someone else hear you play.

[eitech]

so before two years ago, you never used to ask yourself all these questions about creation and such? There was a huge void in this sort of reasoning?

I used to watch all kinda videos. Science videos, religious videos. I tried to understand both sides of the argument. Then one day i jus wanted to know the truth. I went in search and found it. It was right there all along. The sincerity in wanting to know is the key

[bluesclues]

To Properly explain something, scientific investigation wants to know ALL the processes. As instruments get better, further investigation can be done.

Explain how God made the solar system?

As for flat earth. Stupidest idea ever.

Another stupid question is " How God made the solar system?" Lol he probably had a chisel and hammer or he jus spoke it into existence.It's like asking who created God.

Exacly.how did he do that?

the same way the book said. he spoke it into existence.

[eitech]

No i really can fathom that. Everyone can imagine that. Why would you think that you alone can understand God? But a lot of people investigated and found no evidence. Then, painfully, and with much effort and hard work they have come up with other explanations. Life be so simple if we had all the answers in that all powerful protective God above. It's just unfortunate that a lot of people want to know more and just could not find the answers you have.

Have you found evidence to share with all of us who have always been looking?

Did i say i understand God? Do not misquote. I asked if you cannot fathom a being existing? Totally different. His wisdom surpasses all understanding. One can never understand God, that's why there's faith. Trust him

[maj. tom]

so once again here we are. no evidence. just faith. ok good.

[eitech]

so once again here we are. no evidence. just faith. ok good.

Well prove it to yourself. R u willing to jus settle with the results from one side of the argument?

[maj. tom]

well i don't have faith because God is kind of very unreliable in producing expected results, which ye of great faith always spin as "god knows best!"

So i guess i'm sheit outta luck.

[eitech]

well i don't have faith because God is kind of very unreliable in producing expected results, which ye of great faith always spin as "god knows best!"

So i guess i'm sheit outta luck.

You don't get faith from God producing expected results that you want. Lol pastor cuffie told you that?

[matr1x]

Is pastor cuffie going to heaven?

What about priests who molested kids?

I mean they weren't excumunicated, so catholic church fine with molesters.

[eitech]

Is pastor cuffie going to heaven?

What about priests who molested kids?

I mean they weren't excumunicated, so catholic church fine with molesters.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 KJVS
[14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Does that answer your question?


I dont get it
U think pastor cuffie doctrine is sound?
You think priests who molest boys are right?
You think "the church" fine with molesters because they are a large body?
You believe because millions of ppl follow rc doctrine that makes it right, or what they teach right?

Then as i have said before, if you dont know the truth, how can you judge what you see as truth or not? How will you know the truth when it is presented to you?

[eitech]

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[eitech]

I see you quoting the bible, do you adhere to all its doctrines, or only the parts that don't apply to you?

2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJVS
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Anyone can quote a scripture but if you do not rightly divide the word of truth then you will be in problems.

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[eitech]

I see you quoting the bible, do you adhere to all its doctrines, or only the parts that don't apply to you?

2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJVS
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Anyone can quote a scripture but if you do not rightly divide the word of truth then you will be in problems.

What about all that crazy sheit leviticus says

The book of Leviticus was written for Israel and was mainly about God's instructions to his ppl on sacrifices, keeping themselves clean, and other laws. Thats why u see all setta stuff about shellfish, and seafood, etc.etc
Ppl does want to bring up well d bible say u mustn't eat shellfish but that's not rightly dividing the word.

1 Timothy 4:3-4 KJVS
[3] Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. [4] For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

See its in the new testament but ppl would say the scriptures contradictory but its all about context.

Also if ppl understood Christ's role then they would understand why most of those old testament laws dont apply today.

[matr1x]

The whole 6 days creation story is nonsense.


I like how Christians like to say it's a metaphor when it's shown that story is foolishness

[eitech]

The whole 6 days creation story is nonsense.


I like how Christians like to say it's a metaphor when it's shown that story is foolishness

I never examined it. What is your issue?

[eitech]

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[timelapse]

The whole 6 days creation story is nonsense.


I like how Christians like to say it's a metaphor when it's shown that story is foolishness

I never examined it. What is your issue?

Curiousity engaged here..
Somebody enlighten me as to the 6 days story.Six days in reference to what? The earth's rotation ? Also as observed from where? Does this also mean that other planets from other solar systems didn't exist, as their days would be measured differently?
Were there already people on the Earth that would have been measuring time?Or was Monkey man's ancestors measuring time.

Fascinating indeed...

[FrankChag]

you sure the translated "days" properly
maybe it was "periods"

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*flies away*

[matr1x]

Lol...they were clear with "days"

How old is the earth, Christians?