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pugboy wrote:As manning would say "so be it"
Or kamla "let's move on"
altec wrote:imagine you whole adult life you worked for the army, retired at the highest rank that can be attained...and as soon as the sheit hit the fan, they tried to f#ck you over!? That is past betrayal...
Redman wrote:Moonilal should be this loud about the Eden park HDC project.
The simple, inescapable fact is that the State could have lawfully acquired the ‘Eden Gardens’ property for less than $40M. The HDC paid $175M in November 2012 to Point Lisas Park Ltd (PLP) for that property, which is the reason I am calling this an improper use of Public Money.
Despite having available the advice of the Commissioner of State Lands, the Commissioner of Valuations and various attorneys at HDC and so on, the Cabinet approved this transaction. This Cabinet, with two Senior Counsel at its head and several other seasoned legal advisers, appears to have been unaware of, or intentionally ignoring, the legal safeguards.
Redman wrote:How does me saying that Moonilal should be AS loud and transparent on Eden Gardens,as he is on the Al Rawi children qualify as deflection?
You cant deflect something that you are using as a point of reference.
When the messenger was the line minister when HDC payed 175M for a 35M property, his utterances in 'defense' of the people ring hollow
Just saying
https://afraraymond.net/2013/03/14/calc ... nt-review/The simple, inescapable fact is that the State could have lawfully acquired the ‘Eden Gardens’ property for less than $40M. The HDC paid $175M in November 2012 to Point Lisas Park Ltd (PLP) for that property, which is the reason I am calling this an improper use of Public Money.
Despite having available the advice of the Commissioner of State Lands, the Commissioner of Valuations and various attorneys at HDC and so on, the Cabinet approved this transaction. This Cabinet, with two Senior Counsel at its head and several other seasoned legal advisers, appears to have been unaware of, or intentionally ignoring, the legal safeguards.
My God you're conveniently naïve. Redman wrote:What is the preferred outcome on this??
In the UNC perfect world whats the goal here?
Cuz here are the facts....
1)You cant prosecute the kids-demz kids
2)the AG would say he was under the guidance of the training authority and they were sensitizing the kids to the possibility of having to use the weapons in a worst case scenario(and yes this happens with the smarter folk who carry fire arms)
He has not claimed that they are his kids-so the court will have a time proving this,
And you eh getting him to step down no how.
TTDF has correctly closed ranks-they tap dancing all how....
So whats the expectation here...???
De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:What is the preferred outcome on this??
In the UNC perfect world whats the goal here?
Cuz here are the facts....
1)You cant prosecute the kids-demz kids
2)the AG would say he was under the guidance of the training authority and they were sensitizing the kids to the possibility of having to use the weapons in a worst case scenario(and yes this happens with the smarter folk who carry fire arms)
He has not claimed that they are his kids-so the court will have a time proving this,
And you eh getting him to step down no how.
TTDF has correctly closed ranks-they tap dancing all how....
So whats the expectation here...???
Your ridiculous UNC comment aside, we would expect some sort of accountability and integrity, not from Lie-Wari, who by dint of denying his own children shows that he has not an iota of these qualities. Anyhow, the outcome will be that WE as taxpayers will have to most likely pay Mr Maharaj a tidy sum of money for Lie-Wari, Stuart Little, Scarfy and TTDF Head Rodney Stupid arseness.
sMASH wrote:Guess what, police took action with social media posts in the recent past. They located persons in violation of the laws on fire arms.
In this scenario, we have pics of shildren welding high powered assault weapons which violates a number of laws.
The ttdf have already admitted guilt in facilitating it, and if admitting guilt, then they would know who the children are.
So ya don't need alwaries to jump out and say is he Pinckney, ttdf can identify the children.
Then the rest remains is only to determine if the episode was with knowledge, permission, or even direction the parents or guardians.
The children can testify to that.
But, it will be highly unlikely the children break biche into a ttdf controlled location to play with high powered assault weapons, in collusion with ttdf personnel.
The circumstantial evidence to incriminate the AG, is that right after the display in parliament, he went outside and was normalizing the scenario about AG's children being trained to use high powered assault weapons.
He cannot be punished for making a wrongfully misleading and erroneous statement, but as an AG, he should know better.
And if it is infact his children, one has to wonder what else could his family be doing to abuse the weight of being the AG's family, breaking which ever laws.
Unfit for that office.
sMASH wrote:A normal man not supposed to fondle little boys. But if is title is Fr. Then he has special authority to 'llow him.
Fleck, the AG needs to be the most accountable than anyone else in this country wrt the maintenance of laws.
sMASH wrote:Guess what, police took action with social media posts in the recent past. They located persons in violation of the laws on fire arms.
In this scenario, we have pics of shildren welding high powered assault weapons which violates a number of laws.
The ttdf have already admitted guilt in facilitating it, and if admitting guilt, then they would know who the children are.
So ya don't need alwaries to jump out and say is he Pinckney, ttdf can identify the children.
Then the rest remains is only to determine if the episode was with knowledge, permission, or even direction the parents or guardians.
The children can testify to that.
But, it will be highly unlikely the children break biche into a ttdf controlled location to play with high powered assault weapons, in collusion with ttdf personnel.
The circumstantial evidence to incriminate the AG, is that right after the display in parliament, he went outside and was normalizing the scenario about AG's children being trained to use high powered assault weapons.
He cannot be punished for making a wrongfully misleading and erroneous statement, but as an AG, he should know better.
And if it is infact his children, one has to wonder what else could his family be doing to abuse the weight of being the AG's family, breaking which ever laws.
Unfit for that office.
Redress10 wrote:Some of you all really defy logic so it's no surprise that the country is in this sad state of affairs.
This is a non issue. Don't be fool or misled.
Think carefully here. Remove all the yampee from your eyes and watch the scenes.
This took place on a military base. The Attorney General doesn't "command" our security forces etc. He cannot "command" that a gun be placed in the hands of a civilian. Weapons also need to be "signed-out" by personnel.
Therefore, the only people that can ever be culpable in this scenario is the person who signed for those guns and the military by extension. This has nothing to do with the AG or his family. Unless they forcefully took control of the wearpons then you all barking up the wrong tree.
That being said, no wrongs were committed here. Most likely this involved special forces and this would fall under "tactics and training" which isn't suppose to be "conventional" in any shape or form and not suppose to be known to the public.
Peace
RedVEVO wrote:sMASH wrote:Guess what, police took action with social media posts in the recent past. They located persons in violation of the laws on fire arms.
In this scenario, we have pics of shildren welding high powered assault weapons which violates a number of laws.
The ttdf have already admitted guilt in facilitating it, and if admitting guilt, then they would know who the children are.
So ya don't need alwaries to jump out and say is he Pinckney, ttdf can identify the children.
Then the rest remains is only to determine if the episode was with knowledge, permission, or even direction the parents or guardians.
The children can testify to that.
But, it will be highly unlikely the children break biche into a ttdf controlled location to play with high powered assault weapons, in collusion with ttdf personnel.
The circumstantial evidence to incriminate the AG, is that right after the display in parliament, he went outside and was normalizing the scenario about AG's children being trained to use high powered assault weapons.
He cannot be punished for making a wrongfully misleading and erroneous statement, but as an AG, he should know better.
And if it is infact his children, one has to wonder what else could his family be doing to abuse the weight of being the AG's family, breaking which ever laws.
Unfit for that office.
Yep yep ..
He does not have the experience .
AG playing AG.
Laws do not permit it. Are u saying we should follow some laws and disregard others?
Redman wrote:And Sat does call me Naive
From what Ive been told this type of training has been going on for any one in public office that has cause....
Everything Ive read over the last 15 years says clearly that there is logic and benefit to sensitize kids to the sound of gun fire and to the extent that is safe handling the weapons.
The question here is under whose control were the children at the time of the snapshot?
Were the guns actually loaded?
are they real?
,did the kids fire or just pose?
And if you get those details- with PROOF you then are saying that you can kill some ones career because of this.
The AG eh falling on this...what will happen is the TTDF will provide a witch for the witch hunt.
Its pretty telling the deafening silence on the Eden Gardens 100,000,000 over pay.
Us the people dont need Moonilal to be transparent on that-and follow the letter of the law.??
If Moonilal and Jearlean etc have a case to answer concerning HDC misdeeds, let them. Isn't the denier of children making sure that a prosecutable case is being made against all of them?Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”
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