New Ford Ranger vs Navara what uall think

[optimisticcharlie]

The new Ranger still going through teething issues. As time goes on they should be resolved but who wants to buy a brand new vehicle to have problems right from the get go.

The navara had its problems in the earlies... not sure if all have been rectified.

As far as ride quality goes... Once you have driven a d22... almost everything rides better by comparison. The navara is reasonably comfortable but if a man wants to put on 22s, ride quality is lower down that list of priorities.

I believe that van suspensions are better suited to handle our beautiful roads

I personally decided on a Lux
It was the cheapest automatic van at the time (the navara auto was $40k more than its manual counterpart and I couldn't justify that premium).
It's slow but vans have poor handling dynamics at speed so didn't really need the extra power. As for the auto. ...a manual in traffic isn't something I would like on a daily.

The navara would have been my choice for a manual van though

I think the manual ranger is a 5 speed....its a 6 speed in the nav.

Thnx for ur input very nice

[mitch1980]

The new Ranger still going through teething issues. As time goes on they should be resolved but who wants to buy a brand new vehicle to have problems right from the get go.

The navara had its problems in the earlies... not sure if all have been rectified.

As far as ride quality goes... Once you have driven a d22... almost everything rides better by comparison. The navara is reasonably comfortable but if a man wants to put on 22s, ride quality is lower down that list of priorities.

I believe that van suspensions are better suited to handle our beautiful roads

I personally decided on a Lux
It was the cheapest automatic van at the time (the navara auto was $40k more than its manual counterpart and I couldn't justify that premium).
It's slow but vans have poor handling dynamics at speed so didn't really need the extra power. As for the auto. ...a manual in traffic isn't something I would like on a daily.

The navara would have been my choice for a manual van though

I think the manual ranger is a 5 speed....its a 6 speed in the nav.

I was about to build house and getting married a few years back

I was shopping around for an automatic pickup a few years ago to be a work horse on the house and be a good vehicle for family use.

my options were: Ranger, Sportero, Navara, Hilux, Bt50 and Dmax.



i drove all options but went with the Hilux
comfort, space, reliability, fuel economy- i get 700 km per tank of diesel 3 years later.

i am not a speed junkie but concerned with power when needed and reliability.

off road a few times a year and work horse as ever with the house
multiple trips - tile , cement, few yards of gravel/sand , appliances etc

also baby seat fits well in the back seat

I cant understand people who want bigger costlier vehicles but want to pay "B14" prices for the parts and service.


no regrets with the Hilux.
will buy again in the future based on proven reviews obviously

[optimisticcharlie]

Hmm personally i love the new hilux but not looking for a work horse to that extent but nice

[TheOwnerPO]

Hey guys wanna hear ur reviews on either or both vehicles, would be really appreciated.

Navara....because its not american

[kamakazi]

↑↑ I feel you have been reading the v8 boys discussion

[MadCrix]

I see no problem if u buy a new vehicle and there is something wrong with it as long as the firm fixing at their cost.

keep in mind all vehicles will have manufactures faults. some more so and more serious than others. as long as the firm standing by their product I am ok

for me, the 2.2 ranger which is manual is under powered compared to the older 2.5 lighter rangers.. duh

the 3.2 auto is superb however does not come in manual. for me, an auto pickup is a waste.
I am not sure if m rampersad brings de 3.2 in manual, but that would be the engine I would look to get in manual

my daily for town driving is a b2500 2.5 wlt engine manual.

[kamakazi]

↑ displacement isn't the entire story their. ..I believe the 2.2 has a earlier gen turbo whereas the 3.2 ranger and the 2.5 nav have a variable geometry turbo (aka vn turbo)... and as we have seen with Toyota that turbo makes a big difference
The earlier gen turbo 2.5 lux with intercooler is rated at around 115hp
The vn turbo 2.5 lux with intercooler has the same max torque as the 3.0l Lux and is rated at around 144hp

Had an experience with a couple manual BT-50 Mazdas (first gen) where as the vehicles heated up the clutch engagement zone moved closer to the floor. (Early morning cold van clutch engages in the middle of the clutch pedal travel. ... Two hrs later clutch engages with pedal about 2cm of the floor).

[supercharged turbo]

Looking to get either a Ranger or Navara..must be manual and 4x4.Van would be used for carrying loads.Which is better in terms of reliability,ease of finding parts,resale value,performance etc.Might throw it a lil offroad now and then.Nothing to get stick up in,just a lil fun.

[supercharged turbo]

Anyone?

[Slartibartfast]

no indian chariot no care....

the almighty Mahindra is in a caste of its own...its not even worth comparing its greatness to these peasant pickups

bodow

FTFY

Got a friend with the new ranger and he loves it. I've been in it a few times and I rather it to the Navarra in terms of styling and feel. Best I can do in terms of a review. I sure both of them could make at least 160km/h which is way faster than you should ever go in a pickup anyway.

Btw, please don't be one of those that buy a pickup for speed. Just... don't...

[Hyperion]

I worked for a while close to the new Ford service center in P.O.S., I can't begin to tell you the number of new Ford Rangers that I would see coming in on the back of wreckers on a weekly basis.

My old car broke down earlier this year, TCM did my wrecking. I was talking to the CSR about which vehicles they get the most call outs on, Ford Rangers and the new Hyundai Elantra topped the list.

Just my two cents.

[Slartibartfast]

I assume you mean crashed. Or you talking about vehicle problems?

[tr1ad]

That would be vehicle issues with the ranger .... Numerous issues

[Hyperion]

I assume you mean crashed. Or you talking about vehicle problems?

Issues, not accident related. Mechanical, transmission, etc. New vehicles that couldn't even make it back to the service dept on their own.

[Slartibartfast]

Hmm. Well that's a shame cuz the ranger so sexy otherwise and well you know the elantra is basically a race car.

[pugboy]

That is an excellent point of reference , to ask flatbed wrecker companies for their towing stats.

Similarly if you go to a bearing pressing shop you can find out which cars suspension bushings don't last

[supercharged turbo]

^^ Y11,Y12,Tiida...basically anything from Nissan now

[axe]

http://www.topspeed.com/trucks/truck-re ... 68643.html

new Mercedes pick up to share Nissan NP300 platform

[Joshie23]

Hmm. Well that's a shame cuz the ranger so sexy otherwise and well you know the elantra is basically a race car.

Indeed, the Ranger is very sexy. I heard there were teething issues, but after four years, 'teething' can't be the operative word here..those issues however, I think, are limited to the 2.2L engine. I've heard good things about the 3.2L. But what'd limiting these problems to Ford and not it's Mazda twin or is SSL better at hiding it's issues better than McEnearney??

[Team Loco]

Ranger over navara anyday. Hell i will take a rotted ke30 over a navara anyday

[supernedd]

Bess? And u considering a nissan? Lmao

Hahahahaha

[supernedd]

I worked for a while close to the new Ford service center in P.O.S., I can't begin to tell you the number of new Ford Rangers that I would see coming in on the back of wreckers on a weekly basis.

My old car broke down earlier this year, TCM did my wrecking. I was talking to the CSR about which vehicles they get the most call outs on, Ford Rangers and the new Hyundai Elantra topped the list.

Just my two cents.

I saw that also ...

[rebound]

Neither is good......rock and a hard place there..

[supernedd]

Neither is good......rock and a hard place there..

When is the new ranger raptor coming

[Monkey Man]

Men shud sav dey monee and go for some spellen lessons

[supernedd]

Men shud sav dey monee and go for some spellen lessons

D irony . Hahaha

[Toyopet]

Hmm. Well that's a shame cuz the ranger so sexy otherwise and well you know the elantra is basically a race car.

Indeed, the Ranger is very sexy. I heard there were teething issues, but after four years, 'teething' can't be the operative word here..those issues however, I think, are limited to the 2.2L engine. I've heard good things about the 3.2L. But what'd limiting these problems to Ford and not it's Mazda twin or is SSL better at hiding it's issues better than McEnearney??

I've also wondered this. I narrowed it down to 3 possibilities.

1 - SSL hides it better
2 - More Rangers on the road so more faulty ones
3 - Different tuning. Is it possible that they tuned the Ranger closer to the limits of the parts hence why they go bad?

[Toyopet]

That said, you really looking for the lesser of 2 evils. If these were my only 2 options in the world I'd choose the Ford. Both gonna break down sooner rather than later but the Ranger looks better and performs better...when it isn't broken.

I tend to be biased toward the Toyotas but objectively, my top 3 pics in order of preference are:

1 - Mitsubishi Sportero
2 - Toyota Hilux
3 - Isuzu D-Max

[pugboy]

Could be a bit more specific though
Since in last few years the various models have had engine changes and some more reliable than others

[supernedd]

That said, you really looking for the lesser of 2 evils. If these were my only 2 options in the world I'd choose the Ford. Both gonna break down sooner rather than later but the Ranger looks better and performs better...when it isn't broken.

I tend to be biased toward the Toyotas but objectively, my top 3 pics in order of preference are:

1 - Mitsubishi Sportero
2 - Toyota Hilux
3 - Isuzu D-Max

To be honest.. months i scanning thru all these threads.. and barely see complaints of these vehicles on d list. I doh trust the hilux commenters.. hahaahaa... all i know is dmax engine loud.. and well yea never see a complaint for sportero.. but d new one still ugly...lol ... but i leaning to d older hilux.. cause d new one cabin space too small for a tall person. N yes i tested it. Lol