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triniterribletim wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:triniterribletim wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:The lifestyle here nice if you can afford it. Beaches and rivers nearby is an amazing thing.
The weather is great
Free health care
Not that much taxes and regulations compared to other countries.
Everything attracts a fine abroad.
Not cutting your grass. Parking in front yuh house. Overtaking a school bus.
But the crime really sickening and worrying.....
You can have all of that if you choose somewhere like Brazil. Those things are really only a concern if you choose The US, Canada or the UK. Similar to Trinidad, but better economically positioned to weather any crisis. Lower cost of living, and the only thing you're really missing out on is food and family. You even get Carnival.
You can have those things in certain parts of the USA too. A good job can give you health insurance that covers everything.
That would require work and putting up with US work culture though, which is a tradeoff I am not willing to make. You lose the job, you lose everything. The US isn't a nice place to retire to unless you're very wealthy. US citizens themselves like to retire abroad where the weather is pleasant and the cost of living is cheap.
SuperiorMan wrote:You can have all of that if you choose somewhere like Brazil. Those things are really only a concern if you choose The US, Canada or the UK. Similar to Trinidad, but better economically positioned to weather any crisis. Lower cost of living, and the only thing you're really missing out on is food and family. You even get Carnival.
triniterribletim wrote:That would require work and putting up with US work culture though, which is a tradeoff I am not willing to make. You lose the job, you lose everything. The US isn't a nice place to retire to unless you're very wealthy. US citizens themselves like to retire abroad where the weather is pleasant and the cost of living is cheap.
leavingforgood wrote:People overlook the obvious. You will always live hand to mouth if you refuse to budget your money and live on less than you earn.
So many people complain about struggling financially while scrolling through Amazon on their iPhones to buy some nonsense they don't really need. In the US they have great retirement options for every citizen who is willing to sacrifice in the short term for long-term satisfaction. There are 401Ks and IRAs for retirement, 529s for tertiary education expenses, HSAs for health expenses not covered by insurance, etc. all of which give great tax advantages for all.
Even in T&T, there are decent retirement and insurance options provided by many companies.
I hate when I see people have a defeatist mentality about living comfortably in their retirement because they refuse to make sacrifices when they are young.
leavingforgood wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:You can have all of that if you choose somewhere like Brazil. Those things are really only a concern if you choose The US, Canada or the UK. Similar to Trinidad, but better economically positioned to weather any crisis. Lower cost of living, and the only thing you're really missing out on is food and family. You even get Carnival.triniterribletim wrote:That would require work and putting up with US work culture though, which is a tradeoff I am not willing to make. You lose the job, you lose everything. The US isn't a nice place to retire to unless you're very wealthy. US citizens themselves like to retire abroad where the weather is pleasant and the cost of living is cheap.
I love the work culture of the US which is why I chose it. I love the mentality of "all who are willing to work can find a job to do." but then again I am young and a proud capitalist.
In the US you can literally work 24/7 if you chose to, meanwhile, in T&T you will catch your ass to find a second source of income that doesn't involve you creating a business and hounding your friends and family to give you business.
Yea the US doesn't reward job loyalty but neither does T&T which is why it is important for people to live below their means and have an emergency fund. If you lose everything because you lose your job, you were already living above your means.
leavingforgood wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:You can have all of that if you choose somewhere like Brazil. Those things are really only a concern if you choose The US, Canada or the UK. Similar to Trinidad, but better economically positioned to weather any crisis. Lower cost of living, and the only thing you're really missing out on is food and family. You even get Carnival.triniterribletim wrote:That would require work and putting up with US work culture though, which is a tradeoff I am not willing to make. You lose the job, you lose everything. The US isn't a nice place to retire to unless you're very wealthy. US citizens themselves like to retire abroad where the weather is pleasant and the cost of living is cheap.
I love the work culture of the US which is why I chose it. I love the mentality of "all who are willing to work can find a job to do." but then again I am young and a proud capitalist.
In the US you can literally work 24/7 if you chose to, meanwhile, in T&T you will catch your ass to find a second source of income that doesn't involve you creating a business and hounding your friends and family to give you business.
Yea the US doesn't reward job loyalty but neither does T&T which is why it is important for people to live below their means and have an emergency fund. If you lose everything because you lose your job, you were already living above your means.
leavingforgood wrote:People overlook the obvious. You will always live hand to mouth if you refuse to budget your money and live on less than you earn.
So many people complain about struggling financially while scrolling through Amazon on their iPhones to buy some nonsense they don't really need. In the US they have great retirement options for every citizen who is willing to sacrifice in the short term for long-term satisfaction. There are 401Ks and IRAs for retirement, 529s for tertiary education expenses, HSAs for health expenses not covered by insurance, etc. all of which give great tax advantages for all.
Even in T&T, there are decent retirement and insurance options provided by many companies.
I hate when I see people have a defeatist mentality about living comfortably in their retirement because they refuse to make sacrifices when they are young.
Xplode wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:How much are you guys making living away? Just curious about it.
With my leaf filter gutter system contracts here in Florida ,slow month I make $9000 to $15000 USD a month after i pay off my workers and utilities.
zoom rader wrote:^^^ very interesting read and congrats on ur achievements. I kinda did the same but never left Trinidad. I also retired early. I had ample opportunities of migrations but never did. I did bank my money abroad as I did not trust Trinidad. I still prefer living here and from time to time I visit other countries. I just had too much invested in Trinidad and lately in Tobago.
Trinidad is mess and everyday I advise young people to migrate from here. Got lots of family members with BSC and Masters and they just wasting their time depending on Trinidad.
When I worked in the UK and lived in Cayman, Trinidad was a bit different and stable. At that time I did not care to migrate and concentrated on preparing myself to retire comfortably in Trinidad by my investments. I did just that.Dohplaydat wrote:zoom rader wrote:^^^ very interesting read and congrats on ur achievements. I kinda did the same but never left Trinidad. I also retired early. I had ample opportunities of migrations but never did. I did bank my money abroad as I did not trust Trinidad. I still prefer living here and from time to time I visit other countries. I just had too much invested in Trinidad and lately in Tobago.
Trinidad is mess and everyday I advise young people to migrate from here. Got lots of family members with BSC and Masters and they just wasting their time depending on Trinidad.
I think it's well and fine to tell young people to go away, especially if you're in your 20s, adapting to a foreign lifestyle and culture is easier.
Though i know someone who's making £150k a year in England but badly wants to come back home because of loneliness.
So the same addvice doesn't apply to everyone, and some people will leave and never look back (except when it comes to carnival and food) others will be home sick their entire life.
But no way to know to if you don't try.
I don't regret living and working for a few years. I came back into cushy high paid job with a decent savings. I'm very comfortable in TT, but I did also love living in the UK and miss the opportunities working there brought.
Trinidad is very primitive and things have not improved for educated Trinis. The mere fact that trinis have a masters degree and have to rely on OJT to survive while taking instructions from someone who only has CXC shows you how primitive Trinidad is.pugboy wrote:if you in 20s even 30s and don’t have strings attached it is certainly worthwhile to try your hand abroad because things not getting better in the foreseeable future economy wise nor govt leadership wise.
it’s not rocket science to predict the trajectory
one just had to look at other countries
jamaica is a good example of seeing economic pressure and corresponding downward spiral.
but you can still live somewhat.
AlphaMan wrote:Is it advisable to get married to a Trinidadian and migrate or to a woman in the country you're moving to.
leavingforgood wrote:I'm surprised by how dead this thread has become but I want to take that as a sign that those of us who wanted to leave have done so.
I am officially out of the great T&T, praise the lord. It's so scary how quickly I have felt at home and how quickly T&T has started to feel like a distance memory. If it wasn't for Rowley going viral for wearing a hoodie I would've forgotten that I was trini lol
In the US people only care about 1 thing and 1 thing alone, which is money. From day 1 I put my head down and focused on building my new life here and so far I can safely say that life is good.
I have enjoyed my time here on tuner and this thread was my main motivation to get out. Now that I'm officially free, I am graduating from tuner and moving on with my life.
For everyone who is planning their move I wish you good luck and great fortune.
You still trying to sell we dem dreams you live outside boy?Dohplaydat wrote:For those considering leaving, I've worked and lived in 3 countries (for extended periods of time) so I can give some feedback.
1. USA - By far the best choice if you're educated and working in corporate America. Salaries are massive, quality of life will be good in most states and cities. If you're not educated, things aren't too bad, but be prepared to work your ass off. Americans are not racist if you adapt to their culture and integrate well. If you hang out trinis and only associate with people with your background, then expect others to be somewhat unintentionally racist. I worked in NYC which is amazing, but honestly, a crazy place which is nice when young but you won't want to live there forever. I also worked in Chicago and Seattle (cold and depressing, but nice place). America is what you make of it, the freedom to move in society is incredible. So much opportunity and such a beautiful country.
2. UK - Hmm...I have a love hate relationship with the UK. I was there for 3 years. It's honestly, great, so much diversity, so much acceptance, lots of opportunity as well. So close to Europe, high quality of life. No one is expecting you to work overtime for free. NHS is amazing if you need it. However, the caveat with this is that taxes are high and salaries are low. In the UK making over £100k a year is rare, like 1% rare. In the US that's roughly $125K USD which is in some industries is considered a low salary. I got a friend who is a senior Software Engineer in FL that makes $300K and she's under 35. That kind of earning potential in the UK is unheard of unless you work for big tech or the investment firms in Canary Wharf.
3. Germany - (3 months in Hamburg) - Germany is weird.
mero wrote:You still trying to sell we dem dreams you live outside boy?Dohplaydat wrote:For those considering leaving, I've worked and lived in 3 countries (for extended periods of time) so I can give some feedback.
1. USA - By far the best choice if you're educated and working in corporate America. Salaries are massive, quality of life will be good in most states and cities. If you're not educated, things aren't too bad, but be prepared to work your ass off. Americans are not racist if you adapt to their culture and integrate well. If you hang out trinis and only associate with people with your background, then expect others to be somewhat unintentionally racist. I worked in NYC which is amazing, but honestly, a crazy place which is nice when young but you won't want to live there forever. I also worked in Chicago and Seattle (cold and depressing, but nice place). America is what you make of it, the freedom to move in society is incredible. So much opportunity and such a beautiful country.
2. UK - Hmm...I have a love hate relationship with the UK. I was there for 3 years. It's honestly, great, so much diversity, so much acceptance, lots of opportunity as well. So close to Europe, high quality of life. No one is expecting you to work overtime for free. NHS is amazing if you need it. However, the caveat with this is that taxes are high and salaries are low. In the UK making over £100k a year is rare, like 1% rare. In the US that's roughly $125K USD which is in some industries is considered a low salary. I got a friend who is a senior Software Engineer in FL that makes $300K and she's under 35. That kind of earning potential in the UK is unheard of unless you work for big tech or the investment firms in Canary Wharf.
3. Germany - (3 months in Hamburg) - Germany is weird.
thecloud1234 wrote:Anyone have experience working in Germany as a Trini expatriate? If yes ,
Do the ppl look like they like brown ppl
Are their domestic workers you can hire?
Generally is the regular man in the street speak German only?
Is the food healthy vs...doubles, kfc, black pudding, burger & fries......our staples are wheat flour and rice.... Carbs like eddoes,potato, yam, cassava,
While I at it....anyone know how working in houston could be for Trini?
Dohplaydat wrote:thecloud1234 wrote:Anyone have experience working in Germany as a Trini expatriate? If yes ,
Do the ppl look like they like brown ppl
Are their domestic workers you can hire?
Generally is the regular man in the street speak German only?
Is the food healthy vs...doubles, kfc, black pudding, burger & fries......our staples are wheat flour and rice.... Carbs like eddoes,potato, yam, cassava,
While I at it....anyone know how working in houston could be for Trini?
Most Germans aren't overtly racist, but they do regard native Germans and Swiss to be intellectually superior.
Food was alright, lots of basic cafes, German bakeries tend to sell stuff that's more savory than sweet. Quite liked it. The beer is incredible, beer steins are massive lol. Kebab shops every too, lots of Turkish people in Germany. Indian food is plentiful but often not great compared to London. You'll get burger and fries.
Most Germans do know of Trinidad as we made it to their world cup, but most think we're an African country.
You not getting those carbs there, it's lots of potatoes, turnips, other root vegetables that aren't great.
Never been to Houston but some Trini friends there love it
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