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link wrote:in any case, the Membership will decide at the Special General meeting of the 30th January, 2013, the fate of T&T Motor sports.
link wrote:SR wrote:ent it have an fia meeting coming up soon
who representing ttasa.............and who paying for it
the correct question to ask is 'Who will be representing Trinidad & Tobago?'.
so, now...are u asking about the regional NACAM meeting (NACAM is the FIA region that T&T belongs to http://translate.google.tt/translate?hl ... CC4Q7gEwAA )...
or the global FIA meeting ??
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SR wrote:link wrote:SR wrote:ent it have an fia meeting coming up soon
who representing ttasa.............and who paying for it
the correct question to ask is 'Who will be representing Trinidad & Tobago?'.
so, now...are u asking about the regional NACAM meeting (NACAM is the FIA region that T&T belongs to http://translate.google.tt/translate?hl ... CC4Q7gEwAA )...
or the global FIA meeting ??
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no
because ttasa doesnt represent what the motorsporting community of trinidad and tobago want
pete wrote:Link.. you could almost taste the presidency eh?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:however it is important that proper structure, good sense and diplomacy be the method of moving forward, otherwise we will be moving backward.
Carlon Mohammed wrote: Here is one for you all, is Auto Sport an NGO or a limited liability company? how did this organisation get permission to hold events, events that i believe made some serious $$$ in the past, correct me if i am wrong, where did the profits go? did it go to the governing body back then to secure a permanent home for racing or to the directors of the company if any, now STEPHAN the big question is, why there is no home for racing? answer= there is no money to build a facility because in the past no one had foresight or the $$ signs blinded the management who ever it was at that time or did the profits go to fill some pockets well, i guess its time to find out, does any one have time to visit ministry of legal affairs to do a search on who are the directors of this company if it exists, even better some forensic accounting.''
This quote speaks volumeslink wrote:in any case, the Membership [of TTASA] will decide at the Special General meeting of the 30th January, 2013,the fate of T&T Motor sports.
I can't see how. Ali & Ali have resigned from TTASA and Link has been expelled from TTASA. Link's expulsion was confirmed and stayed by the Chairman of the Trustees at the TTASA monthly meeting in January 2013.wagonrunner wrote:ent. he will have the post, and still be Ali's lackey.pete wrote:Link.. you could almost taste the presidency eh?
Carlon how does it feel to be Ali's new pet? Unfortunately for you, you became his pet and he is no longer PresidentCarlon Mohammed wrote: Here is one for you all, is Auto Sport an NGO or a limited liability company? how did this organisation get permission to hold events, events that i believe made some serious $$$ in the past, correct me if i am wrong, where did the profits go? did it go to the governing body back then to secure a permanent home for racing or to the directors of the company if any, now STEPHAN the big question is, why there is no home for racing? answer= there is no money to build a facility because in the past no one had foresight or the $$ signs blinded the management who ever it was at that time or did the profits go to fill some pockets well, i guess its time to find out, does any one have time to visit ministry of legal affairs to do a search on who are the directors of this company if it exists, even better some forensic accounting.''
MICROTECH 7 wrote:You can also ask Mr. Autosport as I did, there are things that would put you in awww
frustr8ed wrote: but yet still TTASA collect $500,000 from the Gov't when Eteck throw everybody out Wallerfield. Where that half a million went Carlon? Or does Carlon know anything about this?
Keep following them, lawyer fees expensive!
Ajeet TrinTurbo wrote: wrong steffan, again you THINK you know. most of the stuff you post are all FALSE.seriously stop posting. check your facts first then post anything. you think you are doing good but you just make things worse. people watching you and laughing. go talk to larry, franco, sean, satan, the older folk. not the newcomers who think they know either. seriously..stop posting, reading posts on trinituner does not make you an expert
steffan, reading trinituner is far fetched. you THINK again is the problem. stop thinking and start learning, anytime someone correct you, you on a high horse. someone with knowledge who knows better and doesnt perpetuate gossip and foolishness and immature childishness will tell you stop posting
david, when you actually know something let me know. ive dealt with all this many times before and i know the individuals and the history. do you?
kevin, ive posted a lot of info already, i have a low tolerance for nonsense ,
Carlon Mohammed wrote:Firstly MICROTECH: This is some good history, so they knew of loosing wallerfield and did nothing? and were handed a proposal for development a permanent home for the sport, now Steffan, i am nobody's pet for your knowledge. and concerning the 500k that is something to find out, any thing issued by the gov't be it a letter,cheque or agreement becomes public knowledge, its worth applying for, so the man gone to 2 days ago, you have real information ,you really embarrassing yourself, passenger flight info is also available, i might be wrong,but check it and then post, i going to open a business, a company to host events, for real, and position this company with which ever body it is to get events, i wonder if i go get through or do i have to be in a certain clique, i go get through don't worry these organisations are very transparent, Ha boy in a chess game when the king & queen gone checkmate,the game and the something else coming soon.
this trinturbo idiot still around?Ajeet TrinTurbo wrote: wrong steffan, again you THINK you know. most of the stuff you post are all FALSE.seriously stop posting. check your facts first then post anything. you think you are doing good but you just make things worse. people watching you and laughing. go talk to larry, franco, sean, satan, the older folk. not the newcomers who think they know either. seriously..stop posting, reading posts on trinituner does not make you an expert
steffan, reading trinituner is far fetched. you THINK again is the problem. stop thinking and start learning, anytime someone correct you, you on a high horse. someone with knowledge who knows better and doesnt perpetuate gossip and foolishness and immature childishness will tell you stop posting
david, when you actually know something let me know. ive dealt with all this many times before and i know the individuals and the history. do you?
kevin, ive posted a lot of info already, i have a low tolerance for nonsense ,
sMASH wrote:it is very unfortunate that the decisions of one motorsport club affects the whole of the motorsport industry of a country.
it is unfortunate that the management of that group would make decisions, but do not represent the various interests of the industry.
for this reason, why people call for the dissolution of ttasa as is.
it is not because of the corruption, or nepotism, or the misappropriation of funds or the lack of vision. no, any individual group to do, manage, run their group how ever they want.
ttasa could run their club how ever they want
... how ever they wanted, if they were a club acting for them selves.
but because they have the titles of ASN and NGB, all power wrests with them. this is not how things should be.
the motorsport industry in trinidad and tobago is not a kingdom, where the president of ttasa is the ruler of all he surveys. it is, but it should not be.
the ruling body needs to be representative of every interest, proportionally.
this is why we call for the reformation of ttasa.
link, do u not agree that the current 'arrangement' of ttasa, as ASN and NGB is not conducive to the fair and unbiased regulation of the motor sport industry?
link wrote:.
It appears that many '[me]people [/me]' don't want to work for what they desire...just to jump in in a position of power...
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sMASH wrote:it is very unfortunate that the decisions of one motorsport club affects the whole of the motorsport industry of a country.
it is unfortunate that the management of that group would make decisions, but do not represent the various interests of the industry.
for this reason, why people call for the dissolution of ttasa as is.
it is not because of the corruption, or nepotism, or the misappropriation of funds or the lack of vision. no, any individual group to do, manage, run their group how ever they want.
ttasa could run their club how ever they want
... how ever they wanted, if they were a club acting for them selves.
but because they have the titles of ASN and NGB, all power wrests with them. this is not how things should be.
the motorsport industry in trinidad and tobago is not a kingdom, where the president of ttasa is the ruler of all he surveys. it is, but it should not be.
the ruling body needs to be representative of every interest, proportionally.
this is why we call for the reformation of ttasa.
link, do u not agree that the current 'arrangement' of ttasa, as ASN and NGB is not conducive to the fair and unbiased regulation of the motor sport industry?
sMASH wrote:
all they have to do, is take the MSGC and bestow the NGB status on that board. also, make up a democratic constitution inline with what many others, not only i, had envisioned.
sMASH wrote:arrrrghhhhh...
that is because the MSGC would be a PART of ttasa!!!!! the MSGC would still have to report to TTASA.
ttasa would still be the ultimate power. what ever the MSGC decides would still have to be submitted to ttasa persons.
THAT IS NOT THE WAY.
keep it like that, and justifiably or not, no one would want to come together. why? because they would have to be answerable to another club. no club should have to be answerable to another club. especially if that club has the aura of corruption and small mindedness and lack of vision.
the MSGC needs to be the ultimate power. ttasa, needs to be another member club, within the drag racing discipline, with EQUAL rights, like any other club, and EQUAL POWER like every body else.
ttasa needs to give up its belief that it should be the governing body.
only when allyuh decide to be answerable to the msgc, under the msgc, instead of the msgc answerable to u all, as it is under u all, then would others have incentive to join.
time to pass the baton onto the panel of your peers, instead of having the panel of your peers under your baton.
show to EVERYONE that they are willing & able to work SEAMLESSLY with ALL THE OTHER AFFILIATES ON THE MSGC (exactly like a racing gearbox), only then will the MSGC be able to take motor sport development to the next level.
that sounds exactly like TTASA!link wrote:it's just that certain 'people' don't want to work to show the whole )motor racing fraternity) that they are worthy of sharing that power (NGB status).
Until organisations shed the superiority attitude (who's dem? how long dey around?) & show to EVERYONE that they are willing & able to work SEAMLESSLY with ALL THE OTHER AFFILIATES ON THE MSGC (exactly like a racing gearbox), only then will the MSGC be able to take motor sport development to the next level.
Dear Members,
As you are aware, my resignation takes effect from January 31st 2013. Despite my hard work I have been condemned by the membership. You all took bad advice and destroyed your Association, but thanks nonetheless.
It is alleged that TTASA will be re-branded and that the membership will be history. I guess the membership will be happy with that.
However, the Constitution clearly defines what should be done in the present situation where there isn't a quorum of management members. For your ease of reference the relevant sections of the constitution is highlighted below.
Before I go any further, I wish to make it abundantly clear that I have absolutely no desire to ever serve on any management committee or in any form whatsoever for TTASA again, therefore the rumour that is being spread by those who are fighting for absolute control of TTASA, that I have called a Special General Meeting because I want to withdraw my resignation and run for office is purely MISCHIEVOUS.
In keeping with the dictates of the Constitution, the Chairman of the Board of Trustees was required to invoke Section 11:2 (f) of the Constitution (see below), but despite my reminder, he refused to comply.
It therefore left me no alternative but to invoke Section 15 (a) [see below] to preserve the democracy of the Association.
As the sitting president, it is within my right to do so.
However, our democracy is being challenged.[ See attached letter]. The Chairman of the Board of Trustees is apparently assuming authority which he does not have.
After careful consideration of this matter, I felt it is useless for me to fight to preserve the democracy of the Association, since members have demonstrated that they apparently do not care about democracy but have fallen for the proverbial carrot.
It was not for my benefit that the Special General Meeting was called.
Therefore I ask myself, why worry to even challenge the attached letter, which is quite misleading in many areas. I do not have the time and money to waste.
I do hope that the members will get what they have bargained for.(If you bargain with life for a penny, then life will pay no more). I wonder if it is an exchange of Democracy for Autocracy?
Time will tell.
In the circumstance, I wish to advise that the Special General Meeting which has been scheduled for January 30th is now cancelled.. I hope this makes everyone happy , and live happily ever after !!!
Thought for the day:
"Absolute power, corrupts absolutely"
11 :2 (f) The Management is deemed to have collapsed when there isn’t a management
quorum of five elected members currently holding office. In such a case, to ensure continuity of the association’s business, a Trustee or Trustees shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Board of Trustees to fill the vacant position/s to form a quorum until a Special General Meeting is held. This Special General Meeting must be held no later than three months after the management committee is deemed to have collapsed.
12 : 2 (g) Vacancies will be filled by Bye Election at a Special General Meeting of which
twenty five (25) fully financial members present shall form a quorum. Such bye
election must be held no later than three months after the position
SPECIAL GENERAL MEETING
15 : (a). The Honorary Secretary shall convene a Special General Meeting whenever instructed to do so by the President or on the written requisition of the Committee, or on the requisition of twenty five Financial members, and such requisition shall state the business to be transacted at such a meeting.
Thanks for the way you have showed 'appreciation' for the hard work of my management colleges and I from September 2010 to December 2012.
Pardon me, but what the name of our Association again???
May the Lord Bless You All.
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Mohammed Ali
Trinidad and Tobago Automobile Sports Association (TTASA)
cell : 1-868-766-9718
: 1-868-332-2296
email : ttasapresident.ali@gmail.com
website : http://www.ttasa.com
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