"Official" POLICE & Police Commisioner Related Matters thread ...

[pugboy]

the common bail is where you hire a bailor who has land/properties which are entrusted to supply the value in this case 80k
you usually pay the bailor a percentage fee for the use of their property like 10%

which is why them gun bandits can be out on the street next day when they pay a few thousand to get out. you don’t get back the 8k you paid to the bailor, that is how those guys make money.

So essentially. Bail of 80k does not mean that 80k was paid. It could mean that 8k was paid which would be returned once the person attends court and not if the person is acquitted. Is that the jist of it?

[elec2020]

ok now i get you. All the information provided was very useful. I now have a better understanding of bail and that it should not be taken at face value as their may be several underlying factors behind it. Got you. That information was very insightful.

[pugboy]

somebody else go have to explain bail and remand to you

ok now i get you. All the information provided was very useful. I now have a better understanding of bail and that it should not be taken at face value as their may be several underlying factors behind it. Got you. That information was very insightful.

[Ryan197912]

[elec2020]

somebody else go have to explain bail and remand to you

ok now i get you. All the information provided was very useful. I now have a better understanding of bail and that it should not be taken at face value as their may be several underlying factors behind it. Got you. That information was very insightful.

If it comes up i will ask. Its a pity that the info u guys know is not common knowledge as at face value u deceived when u see these high value bail figures

[88sins]

the common bail is where you hire a bailor who has land/properties which are entrusted to supply the value in this case 80k
you usually pay the bailor a percentage fee for the use of their property like 10%

which is why them gun bandits can be out on the street next day when they pay a few thousand to get out. you don’t get back the 8k you paid to the bailor, that is how those guys make money.

you left out an important part
If they DON'T go to court while out on bail, is the bailor to ketch, & he will be responsible for paying the full amount to the court. He can then proceed to go after the accused or their guarantor to recover his expenditure. That's why a bailor will always ask what you have as collateral, and oftentimes even if your collateral is a little less than your bail value, they will tell you to get someone to act as your guarantor so both of your combined assets are on the hook for the accused should he abscond/not go to court. They usually want to see at minimum 110% of the value of the bail amount in assets, but if they know you or feel you aren't a flight risk some will hep you out for the 10% without insisting on additional security.

It's a huge risk these fellas does take. They make good money off the system, and it does pay out REAL BIG sometimes.

[pugboy]

yup and those guys have a lil bit of thug genes in them

the common bail is where you hire a bailor who has land/properties which are entrusted to supply the value in this case 80k
you usually pay the bailor a percentage fee for the use of their property like 10%

which is why them gun bandits can be out on the street next day when they pay a few thousand to get out. you don’t get back the 8k you paid to the bailor, that is how those guys make money.

you left out an important part
If they DON'T go to court while out on bail, is the bailor to ketch, & he will be responsible for paying the full amount to the court. He can then proceed to go after the accused or their guarantor to recover his expenditure. That's why a bailor will always ask what you have as collateral, and oftentimes even if your collateral is a little less than your bail value, they will tell you to get someone to act as your guarantor so both of your combined assets are on the hook for the accused should he abscond/not go to court. They usually want to see at minimum 110% of the value of the bail amount in assets, but if they know you or feel you aren't a flight risk some will hep you out for the 10% without insisting on additional security.

It's a huge risk these fellas does take. They make good money off the system, and it does pay out REAL BIG sometimes.

[Rovin]

now if d popo had give she 1 slap like how his colleague collect last wk ppl wuda say he bad ....

[unimatrix-001]

allyuh too wicked!

[elec2020]

Given that no one knows what led to this arrest it is unfair to say that what she is doing is wrong as, in the case of Dwain Kirby Henry, when Mr. Kirby was brought before the courts for loitering and resisting arrest, the Hon. Madam Justice C. Gobin stated that:

"In any event, even if the claimant resisted when the attempt to arrest him was made, he was entitled so to do. It was an unlawful arrest and the claimant was within his right. There was therefore no question of the defendant’s right to subdue him"

Hon. Madame Justice C. Gobin ruled that:

"I have considered the submissions on damages and award the claimant damages for assault and battery in the sum of $35,000.00. Damages for four hours unlawful detention $16,000.00 and aggravated damages in the sum of $20,000.00, a total of $71,000.00 with interest at the rate of 6% from 19th February 2010 to payment."

These cases of resisting arrest aren't so black and white.

http://webopac.ttlawcourts.org/LibraryJ ... eb2010.pdf

[Rovin]

ah now hearing on beyond d tape dat today is GG birthday ... he prolly dunno this thread exist but jes in case happy birthday d boss

[sMASH]

They ttps has their social media section. So I very much think he will be aware of trini tuner Ole talk forum. And thus this thread.

[elec2020]

^ agreed. He probably already know some of us real identities. Just like how al rawi was able to find the details of an anonymous fb user in america. I just waiting for the day when my real name drop so i can sue as, as far as i know national defense can only deploy state resources to identify individuals who are committing offences. Like slander, sedition, etc. So once u not doing those things your anonymity should be good. Even better if they realise u in a good job so u have the paper to take them all the way to privy council if needs be.

[sMASH]

^ agreed. He probably already know some of us real identities. Just like how al rawi was able to find the details of an anonymous fb user in america. I just waiting for the day when my real name drop so i can sue as, as far as i know national defense can only deploy state resources to identify individuals who are committing offences. Like slander, sedition, etc. So once u not doing those things your anonymity should be good. Even better if they realise u in a good job so u have the paper to take them all the way to privy council if needs be.

they only need to have suspicion to take those actions, pal. they dont need evidence. so when u sue, they will say u were suspec, and they gtg

[elec2020]

Suspicion is not reasonable enough to violate privacy rights to locate you. To do so u there needs to be probable cause. That is why alot of cases are stretched out in tnt. Cause when the dpp ready to prosecute they realise the ttps had no probable cause and as such they stretch out these cases to save face. How much cases we see dropped because suspicion or lack of evidence wasn't enough in the grand scheme

[Redman]

Suspicion is not reasonable enough to violate privacy rights to locate you. To do so u there needs to be probable cause. That is why alot of cases are stretched out in tnt. Cause when the dpp ready to prosecute they realise the ttps had no probable cause and as such they stretch out these cases to save face. How much cases we see dropped because suspicion or lack of evidence wasn't enough in the grand scheme

under no conditions can privacy be violated.
allyuh is some clongs ?

[elec2020]

Suspicion is not reasonable enough to violate privacy rights to locate you. To do so u there needs to be probable cause. That is why alot of cases are stretched out in tnt. Cause when the dpp ready to prosecute they realise the ttps had no probable cause and as such they stretch out these cases to save face. How much cases we see dropped because suspicion or lack of evidence wasn't enough in the grand scheme

under no conditions can privacy be violated.
allyuh is some clongs ?

It not supoosed to but if it is and there is no probable cause for violating said privacy u would have a court case against ttps. That is what i was trying to highlight to smash. That is my opinion on my little understanding of the law. I wasn't saying that ttps have all rights to breach privacy willy nilly with no reprecussions

[rollingstock]

^ agreed. He probably already know some of us real identities. Just like how al rawi was able to find the details of an anonymous fb user in america. I just waiting for the day when my real name drop so i can sue as, as far as i know national defense can only deploy state resources to identify individuals who are committing offences. Like slander, sedition, etc. So once u not doing those things your anonymity should be good. Even better if they realise u in a good job so u have the paper to take them all the way to privy council if needs be.

I did and yuh not worth it. That vpn yuh using too is toots. I thought yuh living foreign?

[elec2020]

noted

[Redman]

Suspicion is not reasonable enough to violate privacy rights to locate you. To do so u there needs to be probable cause. That is why alot of cases are stretched out in tnt. Cause when the dpp ready to prosecute they realise the ttps had no probable cause and as such they stretch out these cases to save face. How much cases we see dropped because suspicion or lack of evidence wasn't enough in the grand scheme

under no conditions can privacy be violated.
allyuh is some clongs ?

It not supoosed to but if it is and there is no probable cause for violating said privacy u would have a court case against ttps. That is what i was trying to highlight to smash. That is my opinion on my little understanding of the law. I wasn't saying that ttps have all rights to breach privacy willy nilly with no reprecussions

I was being sarcastic...I don’t think you guys are clongs or clowns.

Privacy isn’t absolute...and our rights to it are imho conditional as to what we doing, as you imply.

The people that bawling about whether ttps supposed to jump in the Valsayn wedding...are the ones who were bawling when the AG made the privacy statement.

Here we are today expecting that ‘absolute’ right to be broken.

[elec2020]

Ahh i get you. Well now that aspect of privacy is under review according to deyalsingh. Which imo is fair enough as some people overdoing it. And things like private events were going to get worse during christmas.

[Rovin]

since this was posted by d TTPS i putting it here

looking like a 6ft long barrel on a home made shotgun...
https://www.facebook.com/PoliceServiceT ... 1948789791

[Rovin]

ent MONS does recieve d biggest slice of d country's budget ...

DJ SHERIFF

TTPS owes $154 M for vehicle repairs, parts, services
Garages stop work :
The T&T Police Service (TTPS) is owing more than $40 million to several garages and auto repair shops across the country for work done on police vehicles. The outstanding debt has forced more than 20 garages and repair shops to close their doors over the last six weeks while others have been sending home workers
The action taken by these garages has left hundreds of police vehicles inoperable as they lie idle at police stations and repair yards nationwide.
Businessman Inshan Ishmael, who owns one of the garages affected by the non-payment of money for repairs to TTP’s vehicles, said apart from the $40 million “the TTPS is already owing over $100 million for goods and services” provided. He said this figure included parts for the newer model of vehicles owned by the police service.
The Vehicle Management Corporation of T&T (VMCOTT), established in 2000 to repair and service state-owned private and commercial vehicles, is still owed $14 million for repairs done to police vehicles over the last eight years.
TTPS altogether owes $154 million for vehicle repairs, parts, and services.

[redmanjp]

since this was posted by d TTPS i putting it here

looking like a 6ft long barrel on a home made shotgun...
https://www.facebook.com/PoliceServiceT ... 1948789791

bandits social distancing?

[Dave]

Ways, like a Dirty Harry special!

[Dizzy28]

Xmas time. Double G going an have any party where NDG wearing some hideous outfit and he will catch feelings on?

[K74T]

Well look meem know GG have a daughter. Congrats to the couple!

[MaxPower]

Zoom.....where you

[zoom rader]

Zoom.....where you

I here

Soilder did better than Brian

I don't recommend marriage to any man but Jah bless them .

[Rovin]

allya tryna racebait zoom orrr ....

woman looks pure caucasian as if neither gary or nicole are her parents , maybe a different chile mudder from a previous marriage or simply d make up ? , either way she look nice though & all d bess to her ....