Government achievement thread (PNM EDITION 2015-2025)

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Ed,
Tell him jump again.

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Dunno why you would listen to some one who failed at killing himself twice on the same night.

I tend not to believe what he says anymore especially since that stupid suicide attempt. Claims he was drunk and thats why he did it but its not the first he did something like this either. About 10 years ago he threw all his appliances even furniture and rugs etc into a ravine just like that out of the blue then jumped off his house roof, broke his arm and a rib.

He became filled with lots of hate in recent times, he even thinks I am his enemy just cause I told him Rowley is a better option than Kamla. Ever since September 7th he has been on a rum drinking rampage the guy has guts of steel. Live from Gramoxone then drinking puncheon rum 4 days later like normal. Man pelt he wife a few years ago with a cutlass after drinking rum, luckily he miss. I have genuinely tried to tell him many times that Rowley does not hate Indian, but he insists that Rowley looks like a racial man. I ask the man how so? man tell me "look at the fcking man face u jackass" in all honesty I look at Rowley face and still don't see what he talking about. I asked about Manning he said no, Manning does not have a racial look.

So I eh know nah.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Even though this neighbor of mine drank gramoxone and jumped off his house roof the night UNC lost the election (he actually did but he is fine now

Thaz an unusually high concentration of chupid in one neighborhood?

Y'all should check the water supply for higher than normal lead levels.

For some reason it only happens when he drink rum. He did similar about 10 years ago but instead of drinking poison he drank Babash and eat Datura seed. As I understand datura seed worse than cocaine, and its grown in Hindu people yard I think it used for puja or something but doh quote me on that one. That one I could forgive because datura seed does make you hallucinate, so I could sort of understand jumping off a house roof for that. But jumping off a roof for UNC?

In his exact words he said when he was a little boy all he could afford was babash 1 barrel to 1 cork of pesticide for some "taste" apparently. Man say it tasted nasty but he had no choice but to drink it.
I suspect this is how he didnt die from the Gramoxone like he stomach immune to all kind of poison.

funny enough he never tried drinking Lanette. Even with all the poison drinking gangster he does wa play.

[fallen_angel]

ED, maybe if you show ur neighbour this picture it might prove to him KR is not a racial man...

[j.o.e]

Oh gosh.... Smallie tits nice for so. Wonder where she playing this year ?

[De Dragon]

You mean like how the last administration drained the treasury?

So the $10.81 Billion dollars that the new Central bank Governor says that we have to manage eh gone dong dat drain? Lemme guess the new Government plug it?

[De Dragon]

Also Scarfman curiously silent on Marlene McDonald and she man HDC house. Or I guess we hadda wait for Mouthpiece Maxie tuh talk fuh him. Nevermind this one done reach TTPS and Integrity Comission. Or is it like Olivierre, she go get a wrist slap?

[boxy]

If Marlene so cupid she deserve to be fired publicly after the IC investigation proves her wrongdoing. Also to vacate her post as MP. Rowley made it clear in Queens Hall that his ministers Wil have to account and the buck stops with him. When he comes back from his wedding I hope he addresses it. Corruption is corruption and nobody on both party lines suppose to tolerate it. And especially the quiet ones who. Suddenly get itchy keyboard fingers I real enjoying the show.

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[zoom rader]

^^^ PNM keeps their affairs indoor or should I say that the media protects them.

[De Dragon]

If Marlene so cupid she deserve to be fired publicly after the IC investigation proves her wrongdoing. Also to vacate her post as MP. Rowley made it clear in Queens Hall that his ministers Wil have to account and the buck stops with him. When he comes back from his wedding I hope he addresses it. Corruption is corruption and nobody on both party lines suppose to tolerate it. And especially the quiet ones who. Suddenly get itchy keyboard fingers I real enjoying the show.

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Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

[EmilioA]

Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

LOL. This obsession with Olivierre. Watch what happening to Jerlean John. That is a better gauge of who stamping who authority. JJ is the person who have files on everybody.

[De Dragon]

Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

LOL. This obsession with Olivierre. Watch what happening to Jerlean John. That is a better gauge of who stamping who authority. JJ is the person who have files on everybody.

Obsession you say! A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister slips by, and the thing is it appears to be a rookie mistake not really deserving of anything like a firing, but the limp rag response was poor. Now Marlene join the cue, the PM looks at risk of being soft with his Ministers and appearing to lose face to the very populace who elected him because he said it ad nauseam that he was not going to tolerate corruption/waste/mismanagement.

[EmilioA]

Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

LOL. This obsession with Olivierre. Watch what happening to Jerlean John. That is a better gauge of who stamping who authority. JJ is the person who have files on everybody.

Obsession you say! A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister slips by, and the thing is it appears to be a rookie mistake not really deserving of anything like a firing, but the limp rag response was poor. Now Marlene join the cue, the PM looks at risk of being soft with his Ministers and appearing to lose face to the very populace who elected him because he said it ad nauseam that he was not going to tolerate corruption/waste/mismanagement.

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.

Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

[De Dragon]

Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

LOL. This obsession with Olivierre. Watch what happening to Jerlean John. That is a better gauge of who stamping who authority. JJ is the person who have files on everybody.

Obsession you say! A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister slips by, and the thing is it appears to be a rookie mistake not really deserving of anything like a firing, but the limp rag response was poor. Now Marlene join the cue, the PM looks at risk of being soft with his Ministers and appearing to lose face to the very populace who elected him because he said it ad nauseam that he was not going to tolerate corruption/waste/mismanagement.

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

[eliteauto]

Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

LOL. This obsession with Olivierre. Watch what happening to Jerlean John. That is a better gauge of who stamping who authority. JJ is the person who have files on everybody.

Obsession you say! A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister slips by, and the thing is it appears to be a rookie mistake not really deserving of anything like a firing, but the limp rag response was poor. Now Marlene join the cue, the PM looks at risk of being soft with his Ministers and appearing to lose face to the very populace who elected him because he said it ad nauseam that he was not going to tolerate corruption/waste/mismanagement.

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

Didn't the Minister in question apologise for her mistake and chuck same up to a lack of experience? What more you need a PM to come say the same thing twice? You need a public upbraiding? Some of us have gotten so accustomed to the leadership style of Gov't by PR and the PM putting her mouth in everything of the last 5 years that we feel that all should have the same leadership style

[EmilioA]

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

first thing to come to your mind is punishment.

You know try as I might I cant see where I mention punishment.

I do see you talking about "discipline to change behaviour."

Once again this says more about your methods than anything else.

Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

This part is utter nonsense since our system puts a party in govt. Therefore the internal workings of that party affect govt policy.

Also we are talking about people at the level of Board and Managerial appointments. Hundreds of them. Taken as a whole their discipline is probably more important than individual Ministers.

[Redman]

Wishful thinking my friend, for at his very first opportunity to stamp his authority and set the expectations (with Olivierre) he fails to do anything meaningful.

LOL. This obsession with Olivierre. Watch what happening to Jerlean John. That is a better gauge of who stamping who authority. JJ is the person who have files on everybody.

Obsession you say! A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister slips by, and the thing is it appears to be a rookie mistake not really deserving of anything like a firing, but the limp rag response was poor. Now Marlene join the cue, the PM looks at risk of being soft with his Ministers and appearing to lose face to the very populace who elected him because he said it ad nauseam that he was not going to tolerate corruption/waste/mismanagement.

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

Didn't the Minister in question apologise for her mistake and chuck same up to a lack of experience? What more you need a PM to come say the same thing twice? You need a public upbraiding? Some of us have gotten so accustomed to the leadership style of Gov't by PR and the PM putting her mouth in everything of the last 5 years that we feel that all should have the same leadership style

That's what I heard early on.

I guess at this point a public flogging is the only solution

[De Dragon]

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

first thing to come to your mind is punishment.

You know try as I might I cant see where I mention punishment.

I do see you talking about "discipline to change behaviour."

Once again this says more about your methods than anything else.

Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

This part is utter nonsense since our system puts a party in govt. Therefore the internal workings of that party affect govt policy.

Also we are talking about people at the level of Board and Managerial appointments. Hundreds of them. Taken as a whole their discipline is probably more important than individual Ministers.[/quote]
I love how you Redman and eliteauto defending inaction by the PM. I also love how you are acknowledging and encouraging same old same old in that internal conflict and ego clashes should get priority over the country's welfare. Well done! So fack up the country and just smile, apologize and the benevolent Scarfman and you go be GTG!This would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn facking hypocritical.

[eliteauto]

hypocrites are very good at identifying hypocrisy

[De Dragon]

hypocrites are very good at identifying hypocrisy

I guess I'se ah kant too because I make you out early.........

[Redman]

But the matter was addressed and dealt with...by the PM....how does this become in action?

You just don't agree with the action...

[De Dragon]

But the matter was addressed and dealt with...by the PM....how does this become in action?

You just don't agree with the action...

Tell me exactly how he "dealt with it"? With an acknowledgement of what we already knew? You don't anoint yourself as an anti-corruption/mismanagement crusader and then don't do anything about said corruption and mismanagement the very FIRST time it pops up in your administration. I also note his continuing silence on Marlene McDonalds' HDC issue.

[eliteauto]

hypocrites are very good at identifying hypocrisy

I guess I'se ah kant too because I make you out early.........

Flattery will get you everywhere

[Redman]

But the matter was addressed and dealt with...by the PM....how does this become in action?

You just don't agree with the action...

Tell me exactly how he "dealt with it"? With an acknowledgement of what we already knew? You don't anoint yourself as an anti-corruption/mismanagement crusader and then don't do anything about said corruption and mismanagement the very FIRST time it pops up in your administration. I also note his continuing silence on Marlene McDonalds' HDC issue.

He dealt with it how he saw fit.
Within the law.

Which is whAt he was elected to do...

Unless you are aware of a law that was.in fact broken....

[zoom rader]

Well I see the PNM crime wave continues Murder #4. This going to get worst when new PNM police goes into office .

[1UZFE]

#iswetimenow

[Habit7]

Well I see the PNM crime wave continues Murder #4. This going to get worst when new PNM police goes into office .

According to this article http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20151230 ... five-years up until Sept 7 2015 there were 288 murders, 1.152 murders a day. From Sept 8 to the end of the year there were 122 murders, 1.06 murders a day.

So there are slightly less murders under PNM. As if any govt can wholly stop and individual from murdering anyone with any legal object.

[zoom rader]

Well I see the PNM crime wave continues Murder #4. This going to get worst when new PNM police goes into office .

According to this article http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20151230 ... five-years up until Sept 7 2015 there were 288 murders, 1.152 murders a day. From Sept 8 to the end of the year there were 122 murders, 1.06 murders a day.

So there are slightly less murders under PNM. As if any govt can wholly stop and individual from murdering anyone with any legal object.

While murder is nothing tobe proud of, this is only day 5.

I do hope we have a serious drop in the murder rate. It is noted that during PNM reign of terror we always get a huge spike not only in murders but is lesser crimes.

PNM is bad for your life

[EmilioA]

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

first thing to come to your mind is punishment.

You know try as I might I cant see where I mention punishment.
I do see you talking about "discipline to change behaviour."
Once again this says more about your methods than anything else.

Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

[b]This part is utter nonsense since our system puts a party in govt. Therefore the internal workings of that party affect govt policy.
Also we are talking about people at the level of Board and Managerial appointments. Hundreds of them. Taken as a whole their discipline is probably more important than individual Ministers.

I love how you Redman and eliteauto defending inaction by the PM. I also love how you are acknowledging and encouraging same old same old in that internal conflict and ego clashes should get priority over the country's welfare. Well done! So fack up the country and just smile, apologize and the benevolent Scarfman and you go be GTG!This would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn facking hypocritical.

Hmmm.

I see no refutation of the points I made.

So I take it you agree then? That thing about punishing Olivierre is all about you.

And you admit that you were wrong - internal party politics is an important part of govt.

[De Dragon]

I think it says more about the shallowness of YOUR leadership style that you describe it as " A perfect opportunity to "manners" a Minister ". As if that is the most important thing.
Rowley have opposition to deal with within the PNM and its not Olivierre or McDonald. A lot of the middle rankers wanted and want to continue the UNC style thieving. They was making deals with the UNC appointees. Rowley had to read the riot act to his own people that he not tolerating that. That's why there was that flurry of firing from State entities in December.

You know the first thing about leading a team?
1)Lay down the expectations
2)Hold people accountable for their actions/inactions
3)Discipline to change behaviour.
I say "manners" and the first thing to come to your mind is punishment. To his credit he did do 1, and kinda half-way do 2 but 3 is and has always been lacking with this Government. So pray tell what was/is he going to do in the future? Is he going to be a pacifist leader?
Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

first thing to come to your mind is punishment.

You know try as I might I cant see where I mention punishment.
I do see you talking about "discipline to change behaviour."
Once again this says more about your methods than anything else.

Lastly I couldn't care less about the PNM's internal politics. We didn't elect the PNM, we elected a Government, which we fully expect to do right by us.

[b]This part is utter nonsense since our system puts a party in govt. Therefore the internal workings of that party affect govt policy.
Also we are talking about people at the level of Board and Managerial appointments. Hundreds of them. Taken as a whole their discipline is probably more important than individual Ministers.

I love how you Redman and eliteauto defending inaction by the PM. I also love how you are acknowledging and encouraging same old same old in that internal conflict and ego clashes should get priority over the country's welfare. Well done! So fack up the country and just smile, apologize and the benevolent Scarfman and you go be GTG!This would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn facking hypocritical.

Hmmm.

I see no refutation of the points I made.

So I take it you agree then? That thing about punishing Olivierre is all about you.

And you admit that you were wrong - internal party politics is an important part of govt.

I ignored you because you hear discipline and you instantly think punishment when they are not the same. Also your position about it being "about" me leads to me to conclude that you either have no concept of, or experience with leading people, or have your head buried in the sand because it is a present member of the Government involved. Either way means that you will see no logic, and thus gain no education about what is essentially a basic management concept, that discipline is meant to change behaviour.If you want to view it as punitive, and pass it off as being "about" me, well carry on.

[zoom rader]

Well I see the PNM crime wave continues Murder #4. This going to get worst when new PNM police goes into office .

According to this article http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20151230 ... five-years up until Sept 7 2015 there were 288 murders, 1.152 murders a day. From Sept 8 to the end of the year there were 122 murders, 1.06 murders a day.

So there are slightly less murders under PNM. As if any govt can wholly stop and individual from murdering anyone with any legal object.

So Today the PNM murder rate is UP, 10 to date while we have an impotent government and citizens at the hands of both bandits.

Rowley continues to hide and his puppy dog Maxie cant answers questions .

Wonder where Rowley gonna play Golf next