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Who do you believe will win General Elections 2025?

Poll ended at April 28th, 2025, 9:17 pm

People's National Movement (PNM)
23
48%
United National Congress (UNC) + Coalition of Interests (PEP, COP, OWTU, LOVE)
21
44%
Patriotic Front (PF)
2
4%
Tie/Deadlock
2
4%
 
Total votes: 48

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 8:15 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Yea, but the issue atm is having a political leader of the pnm and the potential PM as two different people. Prof ghany et Al tried explaining the ramifications of this and why election may be called early


this is true. Rajesh is not the leader of any party.

To be true to the intent, Rowley would have to resign as political leader of the PNM and Rajesh goes to the PNM and gets appointed as new political leader.

Why isn't that being done?
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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 8:17 am

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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Yea, but the issue atm is having a political leader of the pnm and the potential PM as two different people. Prof ghany et Al tried explaining the ramifications of this and why election may be called early


this is true. Rajesh is not the leader of any party.

To be true to the intent, Rowley would have to resign as political leader of the PNM and Rajesh goes to the PNM and gets appointed as new political leader.

Why isn't that being done?
Because there are still forces that do not want him as political leader so they trying to get it done via technicality

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby mero » March 9th, 2025, 8:27 am

Stuart young is Rajesh?

Allyuh real furking stale yuh know.

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Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 8:35 am

Rajesh is what we does call him down in lalbeharry trace in penal

they really waiting until election day to see if Rajesh will be accepted by the PNM rank-and-file?

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 8:40 am

Acting Prime Minister Stuart Young has vowed to bring legislation to reform social media should the PNM win the next general election.

Read more:
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/young-t ... 2de3db0115


What is a promise to a fool, young was there for 10 years why didn't he propose such to the PM now when he looking to secure the position he promising the world.....
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Postby sMASH » March 9th, 2025, 9:50 am

PNM is low key trying to not get a third term.
They racking up too many L's in a declining country , and need to jump off to not mash up the pnm reputation toooo badly , just go off color enough to lose this next term and take it back in 2030 after somebody else solve the problems.


If they get a 3rd consecutive term , the country will collapse and no one else but pnm to blame ... Party good as ded with empirical evidence to show why.

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 9:54 am

I have yet to see the PNM make any ground breaking moves over their 10 years. Simple insignificant changes that nobody even asked for. They not tackling the real issues

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Postby MaxPower » March 9th, 2025, 1:22 pm

pugboy wrote:who dropping out the unc this week ?


Faith and Hope

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 1:25 pm

Tobago is key to winning this election. The current arrangement is 22 to 19. More than likely PNM going to lose the 2 Tobago seats to Farley. So already that reduces their tally to 20 to UNC 19 and then Farley going to take his 2 to the UNC. That my prediction. Remember Farley hate PNM and especially Rowley

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 9th, 2025, 1:37 pm

I'm calling 1-1 in Tobago

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 1:42 pm

PNM hasn't done anything to earn Tobagonians vote unless I missed something

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 4:36 pm

Initiatives That Were Not Implemented/Goals Not Met based on the PNM 2020 Manifesto:

National Security Ministry–Four Unmet Goals

• “Construction of a new state-of-the-art DNA and Forensic Centre.”—The new DNA and Forensic Centre was not completed. In April 2023, Minister Hinds said that a parcel of land, a floor plan, and a contractor were identified to construct a new Forensic Science Centre in St Joseph. He said the facility will cost around $204 million.

• “Construction of a new prison in Tobago.”—A new prison in Tobago was not completed. In September 2023, Guardian Media reported that the structure of the Tobago Prison was threatened by coastal erosion.

• “Acquisition of helicopters for the National Air Unit to be manned by the T&T Air Guard.”—No new helicopters were acquired during the five-year term.

• “Establish a specialised multi-agency border interdiction unit to tackle the illegal importation of narcotics, weapons, and other contraband items.”


Works and Transport–Three Unmet Goals

• The new Toco Ferry Port is being designed—The project has seemingly gone cold. Ahead of the 2020 general election, in 2019, Prime Minister Dr Rowley turned the sod for the project. In 2022, Minister Rohan Sinanan said the project was in its early stages. There has been no major update since.

• Construction of the new Moruga Fishing Port—The project has started but is yet to be completed.

• Acquisition of 300 new buses to augment the PTSC fleet to 500 operational buses at any given time.


Creating a Digital Society–13 Unmet Goals

• The PNM will develop and improve broadband and cloud infrastructure and create a national digital database.

• Access–ensuring high-speed broadband internet access accompanied by the requisite ICT infrastructure is available for all citizens, especially schools.

• Data—creating an electronic population register for every citizen and resident, removing the need for citizens to submit data separately to each agency.

• The PNM will create a digital public service through an e-governance ecosystem.

• As far as possible, all government services will be delivered online. Business processes will be re-engineered, and the mindset of public officers transformed to radically improve the public customer experience.

• The PNM Government will engage community influencers, especially our tech-savvy youth, appoint digital community liaisons, and create digital community portals.

• The PNM will support and facilitate remote working and work-from-home in both the public and private sectors.

• Update and proclaim the Data Protection Act; and the Electronic Transaction Act.

• Develop and implement a national cybersecurity policy and framework.

• The PNM will develop a national e-identity for all citizens and residents.

• The PNM will develop a national digital database to support all sectors of the economy.

• The PNM will develop multiple broadband points of entry in Trinidad, starting in locations such as PoS, Sando, and Chaguanas.

• Establish a tech investment fund and tech promotion and development company.


Creative and Cultural Industries–Eight Unmet Goals

• Provide fiscal measures aimed at increasing the percentage of local music played on radio stations.

• Establishment of a Creative Ambassadorship Programme.

• Artists’ Council and Board.

• Arts Management and Financial Services Task Force.

• Establish and promulgate a local content guideline for local media houses.

• Collect and publish local cultural statistics.

• Establish permanent state-of-the-art facilities for artists at ports of entry.

• Travel subsidies for artists to CAL destinations.


Diversification–One Unmet Goal

• Waive income tax for start-ups and small and medium companies less than three years old.


Supporting Vulnerable Groups: Social Services Delivery–Five Unmet Goals

• Tax concessions for those who support children’s homes and families in need.

• Incentives for private sector organisations that design systems for work-at-home or reduced work from office, especially for single mothers and single fathers.

• Incentivise the private sector to engage in philanthropy.

• The PNM will create a National Social Services Card System.

• Provide shelters for displaced men with dependents.


Manufacturing–Four Unmet Goals

• Improving access to finance and foreign exchange.

• Implement an electronic funds transfer framework to allow all payments to the government to be made electronically

• Systematically clear off all outstanding VAT refund

• An independent quality accreditation body by 2022


Energy and Energy Industries–Two Unmet Goals

• To increase oil production, increase activity and create jobs–increase oil production, increase activity and create jobs - Crude oil production declined by eight per cent in 2023 from 2022, according to Ministry of Energy and Energy Industries data. Under the Government between 2015 and 2023, there was a 31.7 per cent decline in oil production. Last July, a story by Oil Now magazine, claimed that T&T’s natural gas production dipped below its lowest levels since 2002.

• Encourage EE (Electricity Efficiency) rewarding households with the lowest electricity usage


Housing–Five Unmet Goals

• The PNM will simplify the procedures for obtaining planning, building and regulatory approvals, including EMA approval, construction permits, licences, construction tax incentives, trading in housing, home improvement grants, housing construction, land settlement, squatter regularisation, village improvement and land and building development ... The objective is to eliminate the red tape that currently hinders construction projects.

• The objective is to reduce the time for the entire building approvals process to six months and the time for obtaining approval for tax incentives to three months.

• Concessional home construction loans with a two-year moratorium on payments

• Concessional land purchase loans with a two-year moratorium on payments

• Tax incentives will be provided to encourage and stimulate the manufacture of building materials and components locally to reduce the demand for foreign exchange for imported building materials.


Tobago–Five Unmet Goals

• “Our commitment to Tobago’s autonomy remains and will be accorded the highest priority in the new term of Parliament.” –Tobago has not received increased autonomy. Last December, Parliament failed to pass the Constitution (Amendment) (Tobago Self-Government) Bill 2022. It required a three-fourths majority for passage, but the Opposition did not support the bill.

• Collaborate with the THA to restructure the air bridge and sea bridge operations.

• Construct a modern Hope correctional facility in Tobago

• Establishment of the Tobago Training Agency

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby The_Honourable » March 9th, 2025, 6:09 pm

hover11 wrote:PNM hasn't done anything to earn Tobagonians vote unless I missed something

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New Tobago airport opening later this week, that alone will get them some votes.

Farley doing some infrastructure works all over Tobago tho, so he should be able to take one or both seats.

https://www.youtube.com/@diqudworks654/videos

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Postby zoom rader » March 9th, 2025, 6:27 pm

paid_influencer wrote:Rajesh is what we does call him down in lalbeharry trace in penal

they really waiting until election day to see if Rajesh will be accepted by the PNM rank-and-file?
Small pin is not Indian

He never
Fly kite
Spin Top
Play 3 hole
Have an assortment of Black mollies or Fighters.
Bust Bamboo

He lives a PoS life and knows nothing of the Penal south life.

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Postby hover11 » March 9th, 2025, 6:28 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
hover11 wrote:PNM hasn't done anything to earn Tobagonians vote unless I missed something

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New Tobago airport opening later this week, that alone will get them some votes.

Farley doing some infrastructure works all over Tobago tho, so he should be able to take one or both seats.

https://www.youtube.com/@diqudworks654/videos
But honorable they have to alot more than that to earn their votes again remember Tobagonians not like trinis they don't forget and fall for mamaguyism

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Postby death365 » March 9th, 2025, 7:58 pm

100% Agree.

Thats y St. Joseph, tunapuna and d other marginals so important to who's winning d elections.
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Postby Alpha_2nr » March 9th, 2025, 9:25 pm

MaxPower wrote:
pugboy wrote:who dropping out the unc this week ?


Faith and Hope


They lost all hope some years back.

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Postby pugboy » March 9th, 2025, 9:48 pm

it always boiled down to marginals
however tobago certainly have more sway now

death365 wrote:100% Agree.

Thats y St. Joseph, tunapuna and d other marginals so important to who's winning d elections.
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Postby paid_influencer » March 9th, 2025, 11:09 pm

diego martin is a marginal this cycle

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Postby hover11 » March 10th, 2025, 8:33 am

The red till I dead idiots will continue voting for mediocrity
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Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2025, 10:14 am

Pnm trying to lose this election ...

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Postby j.o.e » March 10th, 2025, 10:22 am

sMASH wrote:Pnm trying to lose this election ...


But is UNC trying to win is the question

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Postby mero » March 10th, 2025, 11:36 am

hover11 wrote:The red till I dead idiots will continue voting for mediocrity
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Postby mero » March 10th, 2025, 11:45 am

j.o.e wrote:
sMASH wrote:Pnm trying to lose this election ...


But is UNC trying to win is the question
When PNM try to win dey win. When PNM try to lose they win. UNC though? Lol

Man itt studying who in PNM go accept Stuart like PNM not winning last 10 years.

Losers lose, winners win.

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Postby hover11 » March 10th, 2025, 12:01 pm

mero wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
sMASH wrote:Pnm trying to lose this election ...


But is UNC trying to win is the question
When PNM try to win dey win. When PNM try to lose they win. UNC though? Lol

Man itt studying who in PNM go accept Stuart like PNM not winning last 10 years.

Losers lose, winners win.

Smash trying he hardest to cope

11 candidates announced at 11:99pm. Jokers
Well thats funny because when PNM wins , the electorate loses by induced hardship.

When UNC wins, Everyone wins

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Postby j.o.e » March 10th, 2025, 12:15 pm

hover11 wrote:
mero wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
sMASH wrote:Pnm trying to lose this election ...


But is UNC trying to win is the question
When PNM try to win dey win. When PNM try to lose they win. UNC though? Lol

Man itt studying who in PNM go accept Stuart like PNM not winning last 10 years.

Losers lose, winners win.

Smash trying he hardest to cope

11 candidates announced at 11:99pm. Jokers
Well thats funny because when PNM wins , the electorate loses by induced hardship.

When UNC wins, Everyone wins

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UNC hasn’t won since Panday …. Last win was Peoples Partnership …. Followed by a swift loss. UNC needs to do some serious introspection because hoping for a Tobago party to make a pathway for them is madness.
All old talk aside, UNC drifting further and further into obscurity which is not good as a country needs a vibrant opposition.
If KPB wants to stay at the reigns, fine no problem but should she step down or fall ill who is the person who the public will accept to step in.

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby eliteauto » March 10th, 2025, 12:32 pm

The Congress of the People (COP) has officially relaunched after a 15-year hiatus. To put that into perspective—last time people were excited about voting for COP, they were still using BlackBerries and updating their Hi5 profiles.

Now, while I believe brands can reinvent themselves, time will tell whether COP can recapture the public’s imagination like they did in 2010, when they pulled in over 100,000 votes. But what really intrigues me is the clear strategy between the UNC and COP, as both parties have indicated they’re going to join forces.

After 10 years in opposition, you’d think the need to revive the COP to help win an election might signal some sort of failure—but hey, that’s a whole other story.

What really catches my attention is the ‘coalition of interests’ the UNC is assembling with the likes of COP, PEP, and OWTU.

A question many of my friends keep asking is: why is the UNC cozying up to figures like Philip Edward Alexander, a man whose rotting carcass would be too nauseating for a corbeau? And why align with the OWTU, an organization that has more letters in its name than actual votes?

Well, the answer is simple: the UNC isn’t forming a real coalition; it’s forming the illusion of a coalition.

Aligning with other smaller parties (NTA, HOPE, PF, etc.) would require real negotiations and concessions from everyone involved. But aligning with the COP and PEP? That campaign can be all about reminding people how Kamla parted the Red Sea and turned water into wine.

Once you understand that Queen Bavmorda is an extreme coward, and that everything she does stems from a place of fear her moves start to make more sense. And the thing she fears most is being deposed in the same manner the previous king was. Therefore, her actions aren’t designed to win an election—they’re all about retaining power even if the castle itself burns down.

Philip Alexander’s real purpose isn't in bringing votes; it’s in attacking internal rivals online. The OWTU? They’re there to create the illusion that she has the backing of the unions.

She is setting the machinery in place for her internal campaign when she loses.

Also, there’s the element of good old nostalgia. The UNC is running its campaign on vibes from the good ol’ days of the People’s Partnership.

Nostalgia is a powerful drug, but the problem is that, at some point, the past becomes so far gone that nobody remembers or cares anymore. You can’t run a country on memories alone—especially when the only thing you’re bringing to the table is a retread of promises and missteps from years ago.


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Postby pugboy » March 10th, 2025, 12:50 pm

relaunching a party that was dead from long before ?
a real lazarus scenes

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Postby eliteauto » March 10th, 2025, 1:01 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
hover11 wrote:Seems elite auto has the election date in his back pocket


i feel that May be the case

but i waiting until he take it out of he back pocket,
and move it to he front pocket


Heading detour to look at some shirts, or is it the front pants pocket? Could save on the shopping if it's the pants

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Postby hover11 » March 10th, 2025, 1:24 pm

Remember when Rowley said he would lock up all the UNC theives....we still waiting.

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