The Religion Discussion

[Cherish No Wrong]

Another pagefull of fakes

[Habit7]

Like the Internet. Thank goodness God created the Internet.

No silly, Christians believe that one day lightening struck Al Gore's computer some time in the early 80's and with time and chance affecting lines of code, by the 90's the internet was created.

[bluefete]

God prefers kind atheists over hateful christians, muslims, hindus, sai's etc.

[Slartibartfast]

But man can't make lightning...

[Habit7]

God prefers kind atheists over hateful christians, muslims, hindus, sai's etc.

How you know this?

But man can't make lightning...

Who said he could?

[nareshseep]

But man can't make lightning...

That is only of Zeus himself...

Praise Zeus!!! for he is God of Gods, he brings forth thundah and lightning to all infidels!

[Habit7]

^^^Take care you offend the many Greek Mythologists that peruse this forum

[Valentines escourts]

^ says the believer of false gods

[RBphoto]

But man can't make lightning...

That is only of Zeus himself...

Praise Zeus!!! for he is God of Gods, he brings forth thundah and lightning to all infidels!

Pashaw!!!!!

[ruffneck_12]

All hail Nikola Tesla

Supreme leader of the electrons

[bluefete]

I think that I shall never see

A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is pressed

Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast;

A tree that looks at God all day,

And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

A tree that may in summer wear

A nest of robins in her hair;

Upon whose bosom snow has lain;

Who intimately lives with rain.

Poems are made by fools like me,

But only God can make a tree.

“Trees” was originally published in Trees and Other Poems. Joyce Kilmer. New York: George H. Doran Company, 1914.

[bluefete]

As I ponder on the myriad contributions to this thread, I was led into thinking about the origin of the different type of trees in the world.

People have written about life starting from outer space or the ocean and so on.

Did the seeds for all the trees in the world come from outer space? Or did they come from a fishie that walked on to land and vomited a mango seed?

Can any human being today make a tree? Has any human ever created a tree from nothing?

The more I ponder, the more I am convinced of God's existence. We humans came and met everything prepared for our use.

Only a loving God would put us in an environment just right for our existence.

People can discourse all they want about evolution but this earth did not have the right conditions for human existence by chance. Rubbish! We cannot live on any other planet in our own solar system without life support of some form.

Read the words to the poem again and think.

[Slartibartfast]

Dude... you used a quote from a poet that was written literally 100 years ago as proof to argue your point. Somehow to you this counts as evidence more than fossils and modern dating techniques do.

[bluefete]

Dude... you used a quote from a poet that was written literally 100 years ago as proof to argue your point. Somehow to you this counts as evidence more than fossils and modern dating techniques do.

Did you read what I wrote???

Can you answer the question about trees?

Or are you like some tuners who try to obfuscate the issue when they cannot give a logical answer?

Where did trees come from???

[meccalli]

afaik, they use the theory of plant evolution which I had to study a few years ago, again microscopic/ autotrophic organisms in this case stemming from some early plantlike bacteria like cyano then adapting to land via stages of lessening dependency on water for support and reproduction and finally reaching its peak in seed and flowering angiosperms.

[bluefete]

afaik, they use the theory of plant evolution which I had to study a few years ago, again microscopic/ autotrophic organisms in this case stemming from some early plantlike bacteria like cyano then adapting to land via stages of lessening dependency on water for support and reproduction and finally reaching its peak in seed and flowering angiosperms.

And this translated into English simply means that they do not know!!

Plantlike bacteria adapting to land? Sounds suspiciously like the fishie losing its fins and growing legs to adapt to land.

[Habit7]

Dude... you used a quote from a poet that was written literally 100 years ago as proof to argue your point. Somehow to you this counts as evidence more than fossils and modern dating techniques do.

Dude fossils are the worst validation for evolution. We observe many fossils popping into existence with no evolutionary precursor. In fact Darwin staked his theory on future fossil discoveries. Almost 200 years later the fossil record still shows complexed organisms coming into existence, contra to evolution.

[ruffneck_12]

afaik, they use the theory of plant evolution which I had to study a few years ago, again microscopic/ autotrophic organisms in this case stemming from some early plantlike bacteria like cyano then adapting to land via stages of lessening dependency on water for support and reproduction and finally reaching its peak in seed and flowering angiosperms.

And this translated into English simply means that they do not know!!

Plantlike bacteria adapting to land? Sounds suspiciously like the fishie losing its fins and growing legs to adapt to land.

How did a snake and burning bush learn to talk?

[Slartibartfast]

Rosetta Stone

Like I said before, you guys assume our current capabilities are our limits which is not true.

[bluefete]

afaik, they use the theory of plant evolution which I had to study a few years ago, again microscopic/ autotrophic organisms in this case stemming from some early plantlike bacteria like cyano then adapting to land via stages of lessening dependency on water for support and reproduction and finally reaching its peak in seed and flowering angiosperms.

And this translated into English simply means that they do not know!!

Plantlike bacteria adapting to land? Sounds suspiciously like the fishie losing its fins and growing legs to adapt to land.

How did a snake and burning bush learn to talk?

The same way the donkey talked to Balaam.

With God all things are possible.

With evolution we are bounded by our boundaries.

[bluefete]

Rosetta Stone

Like I said before, you guys assume our current capabilities are our limits which is not true.

Matthew 17:20

And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

[Slartibartfast]

^^^But a lot of scientific discoveries and inovations are made by atheists

[ruffneck_12]

I sure bluefete believe the earth flat too

[nareshseep]

I sure bluefete believe the earth flat too

This is why there is a strange love for the "middle" east ... people want to go there because they fraid to fall off the edge of the earth

[meccalli]

Excerpts from the Beagle where Mr. Darwin encountered the Fuegians and Patagonians.
On 17 December 1832, Charles Darwin arrived in Tierra del Fuego1 at the southernmost tip of South America, as part of his world tour aboard H.M.S. Beagle.

the most abject and miserable creatures I anywhere beheld’ and as existing ‘in a lower state of improvement than in any part of the world.’ … ‘These poor wretches were stunted in their growth, their hideous faces bedaubed with white paint, their skins filthy and greasy, their hair entangled, their voices discordant, and their gestures violent. Viewing such men, one can hardly make oneself believe that they are fellow creatures and inhabitants of the same world. It is a common subject of conjecture what pleasure in life some of the lower animals can enjoy; how much more reasonably the same question may be asked with respect to these barbarians. At night, five or six human beings, naked and scarcely protected from the wind and rain of this tempestuous climate, sleep on the wet ground coiled up like animals.’3

Mr Darwin has often expressed to me his conviction that it was utterly useless to send missionaries to such a set of savages as the Fuegians, probably the very lowest of the human race. I had always replied that I did not believe any human beings existed too low to comprehend the simple message of the Gospel of Christ.
From origins.
At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world.

Makes it pretty clear why government and scientists would conspire to abuse and obliterate deemed 'savage' people wherever they so chose to take and plunder and rape...then hide the evidence of a sophisticated and complex population. Just one example being the North American Indians..
Thank God some stuff slipped through or we might not have had any traces, smithsonian was caught out in the dust because they couldn't read ancient hebrew and phoenician.


The name of Yhovah

Found in an indian grave, clutched by a corpse- the ten commandments
New mexico, 500BC
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -genetics/
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jew ... m-1.433227

[bluesclues]

afaik, they use the theory of plant evolution which I had to study a few years ago, again microscopic/ autotrophic organisms in this case stemming from some early plantlike bacteria like cyano then adapting to land via stages of lessening dependency on water for support and reproduction and finally reaching its peak in seed and flowering angiosperms.

And this translated into English simply means that they do not know!!

Plantlike bacteria adapting to land? Sounds suspiciously like the fishie losing its fins and growing legs to adapt to land.

How did a snake and burning bush learn to talk?

you's a snake and look you talking. i eh know if you does be burnin bush lol

[DJ]

As I ponder on the myriad contributions to this thread, I was led into thinking about the origin of the different type of trees in the world.

People have written about life starting from outer space or the ocean and so on.

Did the seeds for all the trees in the world come from outer space? No moron it was the process of natural selection, combined with evolution Or did they come from a fishie that walked on to land and vomited a mango seed By this statement, you validated the M-word I called you just now?

Can any human being today make a tree? not from scratch Has any human ever created a tree from nothing nope, not that I know of ?

The more I ponder, the more I am convinced of God's existenceYes this is because of your indoctrination. If you observe a young child's ponderations, you may understand what I am sayin (but I doubt it). We humans came and met everything prepared for our usethis is your belief, dont make it sound like fact mr. 'm'. Humans evolved, they did not just come .

Only a loving God would put us in an environment just right for our existence What makes you think that if there was a god, that he probably tried to put humans on all planets, but because the atmosphere was not right, only the ones on earth survived? Because the book said so? .

People can discourse all they want about evolution but this earth did not have the right conditions for human existence by chance. Rubbish!Again, your moronic opinion. We cannot live on any other planet in our own solar system without life support of some formAs I said before, God probably tried it and realised that on only earth we can survive. But seriously, do you think that live can be propagated on Mars without support systems? Thats why evolution randomly happed on only earth, because it is one of the only planets that can accomodate this .

Read the words to the poem again and think.Dont need to, it is misleading

[Slartibartfast]

God is (at best) a wasteful idiot if he created everything just for us. Why make a solar system with 8 planets but only 1 that could support life?

Why make so many stars without solar systems around them to support life? Why make so many solar systems that are unable to support life?

It seems more likely that it's all random and the chance of life spontaneously starting on a planet is incredibly small (like 0.00000000001%). But with so many failed chances, it happened once.

That will explain why this planet suits us and no other planet does. Because we were made from this planet... This planet was not made for us. I'm fact, there are places on this very planet that are unsuitable for us (like deserts and anywhere close to the poles). A regular person can't go and live there without significant preparation and/or knowledge.

There are also so many things is the suitable areas that can kill us; snakes, bears, mosquitoes, lions and a whole array of poisonous plants. If this world was made for us, why is life such a struggle for survival?

It was man that made life comfortable and easy (not always a good thing, I admit). I don't see any hard evidence of any God. Everything seems opinionated and open to interpretation at best.

[Moorg Life]

do you have a diary or diahorrea? cant be a bible

[ruffneck_12]

Why god make Hitler?
Does he like to see people suffer?

Is that all god is? just a lil child with a magnifying glass and he just burning innocent ants for fun?

What is the point of diseases? Why not kill the person instantly instead of making his followers suffer?
Such a merciful god.