*** THE OFFICIAL HOME THEATER & AUDIO THREAD**

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ you will probably never make up your mind - there are always features that will make decisions difficult.

IMO I bought the best showing panel at the time that I could afford - it turned out to be the PN58B860 and it still gets good reviews. I would have liked to get a Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro plasma since they are rated as the best showing panels ever - but they are expensive (US$7000) and since they were hand picked panels they are not in production again.

I am sure there are LED panels now that closely match the Samsung Plasma I bought in 2009 though the LEDs will still have local dimming issues.

I wouldnt buy a panel now though - there is too much speculation on whether 3D will be active, passive or glasses free. And even in the glasses free arena there are 4 point, 6 point and 9 point TVs (with glass free you have to sit a particular point to see 3D). Or they might come up with some new thing by year end.

Passive screens just made active screen obsolete and glasses free made passive screen obsolete. Now is not a good time to buy if you are buying 3D.

And to end that, if you are buying a TV now I suggest that you DO buy a 3D TV. Why? cause to do 3D the TV has to have the best features i.e. 120hz or 240hz, good black levels, good response times, HDMI 1.4, networking, etc etc. - this will all improve your 2D watching experience even if you never watch a 3D movie on it.

[noshownogo]

Samsung UND6400 series is a good entry level 3D telly, same great picture of the 6000series with 3D tuner included.

I've seen a Kuro Pro in an exhibition in Chicago, and i must admit. In black scenes, it's darker than having the screen off. It was that rich and impressive.

[AGENT RORO]

^ you will probably never make up your mind - there are always features that will make decisions difficult.

IMO I bought the best showing panel at the time that I could afford - it turned out to be the PN58B860 and it still gets good reviews. I would have liked to get a Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro plasma since they are rated as the best showing panels ever - but they are expensive (US$7000) and since they were hand picked panels they are not in production again.

I am sure there are LED panels now that closely match the Samsung Plasma I bought in 2009 though the LEDs will still have local dimming issues.

I wouldnt buy a panel now though - there is too much speculation on whether 3D will be active, passive or glasses free. And even in the glasses free arena there are 4 point, 6 point and 9 point TVs (with glass free you have to sit a particular point to see 3D). Or they might come up with some new thing by year end.

Passive screens just made active screen obsolete and glasses free made passive screen obsolete. Now is not a good time to buy if you are buying 3D.

And to end that, if you are buying a TV now I suggest that you DO buy a 3D TV. Why? cause to do 3D the TV has to have the best features i.e. 120hz or 240hz, good black levels, good response times, HDMI 1.4, networking, etc etc. - this will all improve your 2D watching experience even if you never watch a 3D movie on it.

Funny you mentioned that, I'm now doing some reading on what's available now.

[Soundwave]

^ you will probably never make up your mind - there are always features that will make decisions difficult.

IMO I bought the best showing panel at the time that I could afford - it turned out to be the PN58B860 and it still gets good reviews. I would have liked to get a Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro plasma since they are rated as the best showing panels ever - but they are expensive (US$7000) and since they were hand picked panels they are not in production again.

I am sure there are LED panels now that closely match the Samsung Plasma I bought in 2009 though the LEDs will still have local dimming issues.

I wouldnt buy a panel now though - there is too much speculation on whether 3D will be active, passive or glasses free. And even in the glasses free arena there are 4 point, 6 point and 9 point TVs (with glass free you have to sit a particular point to see 3D). Or they might come up with some new thing by year end.

Passive screens just made active screen obsolete and glasses free made passive screen obsolete. Now is not a good time to buy if you are buying 3D.

And to end that, if you are buying a TV now I suggest that you DO buy a 3D TV. Why? cause to do 3D the TV has to have the best features i.e. 120hz or 240hz, good black levels, good response times, HDMI 1.4, networking, etc etc. - this will all improve your 2D watching experience even if you never watch a 3D movie on it.

Funny you mentioned that, I'm now doing some reading on what's available now.

get a sharp 19" crt fadda, daiz de best, if you want it to do 3d just keep running up to the screen and running back...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ actually with all this talk you really cannot beat a CRT for colour depth and black levels, even with the best and most expensive plasmas and LEDs - however they can't make CRTs larger than probably 30"

[Soundwave]

^ actually with all this talk you really cannot beat a CRT for colour depth and black levels, even with the best and most expensive plasmas and LEDs - however they can't make CRTs larger than probably 30"

yup, I remember an article saying the photo editing boys still hunt down the better crt's...

[noshownogo]

Those Sharp 27" CRT's weighed what felt like a ton

[Soundwave]

Those Sharp 27" CRT's weighed what felt like a ton

my dad has a 25" RCA Stereo Teevee, the audio from that is boominggg, weighs a tonne too...

[noshownogo]

RCA, now there's a throwback! Had a moody RCA VHS VCR that would eat tape on it's bad days.

[AGENT RORO]

^ you will probably never make up your mind - there are always features that will make decisions difficult.

IMO I bought the best showing panel at the time that I could afford - it turned out to be the PN58B860 and it still gets good reviews. I would have liked to get a Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro plasma since they are rated as the best showing panels ever - but they are expensive (US$7000) and since they were hand picked panels they are not in production again.

I am sure there are LED panels now that closely match the Samsung Plasma I bought in 2009 though the LEDs will still have local dimming issues.

I wouldnt buy a panel now though - there is too much speculation on whether 3D will be active, passive or glasses free. And even in the glasses free arena there are 4 point, 6 point and 9 point TVs (with glass free you have to sit a particular point to see 3D). Or they might come up with some new thing by year end.

Passive screens just made active screen obsolete and glasses free made passive screen obsolete. Now is not a good time to buy if you are buying 3D.

And to end that, if you are buying a TV now I suggest that you DO buy a 3D TV. Why? cause to do 3D the TV has to have the best features i.e. 120hz or 240hz, good black levels, good response times, HDMI 1.4, networking, etc etc. - this will all improve your 2D watching experience even if you never watch a 3D movie on it.

Funny you mentioned that, I'm now doing some reading on what's available now.

get a sharp 19" crt fadda, daiz de best, if you want it to do 3d just keep running up to the screen and running back...

Using a viewsonic E90f+ right now....

[RapToR]

http://www.monstercable.com/productdisp ... T=11&WPR=1

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ $1,400 to $1,600 US I'm guessing

[RapToR]

^ $1,400 to $1,600 US I'm guessing

that model is US$2000 retail


i'm thinking if to get one


posted wrong model no.


theres another for $1600

[AGENT RORO]

Don't know if Raptor might be able to say, but I'm reading that Monster's warranty doesn't cover "brown outs"?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I feel you need a UPS bank and a generator with auto start.

[AGENT RORO]

I feel you need a UPS bank and a generator with auto start.

House suffers with Low voltage so just don't want to end up in trouble.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ you need a UPS + line conditioner + voltage regulator with the ability to lower voltage during spikes and boost voltage during dips. In the event of a brown-out the system should shut itself off instead of trying to maintain boosting the voltage.

The Panamax 7500-PRO does this but it costs nearly US$2000 and doesnt have a UPS.

[AGENT RORO]

^ you need a UPS + line conditioner + voltage regulator with the ability to lower voltage during spikes and boost voltage during dips. In the event of a brown-out the system should shut itself off instead of trying to maintain boosting the voltage.

The Panamax 7500-PRO does this but it costs nearly US$2000 and doesnt have a UPS.

That's how I know it but some reviews are suggesting otherwise. At present I'm looking at the Monster HTS 3600 MKII or the Belkin PF60 PureAV. Most of the Panamax models seem to be out of my price range

[RapToR]

Don't know if Raptor might be able to say, but I'm reading that Monster's warranty doesn't cover "brown outs"?

You only get 6mts warranty on the monster products from defects


Warranty won't cover equipment damages, that's for US only

[RapToR]

^ you need a UPS + line conditioner + voltage regulator with the ability to lower voltage during spikes and boost voltage during dips. In the event of a brown-out the system should shut itself off instead of trying to maintain boosting the voltage.

The Panamax 7500-PRO does this but it costs nearly US$2000 and doesnt have a UPS.

I'm gonna look into stocking Panamax also

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Don't know if Raptor might be able to say, but I'm reading that Monster's warranty doesn't cover "brown outs"?

You only get 6mts warranty on the monster products from defects


Warranty won't cover equipment damages, that's for US only

I am sure no warranty covers brown-outs - if they do it would be called "insurance" not "warranty"

a brown-out is not the proper operating criteria and so would not be covered by ANY warranty

[AGENT RORO]

Don't know if Raptor might be able to say, but I'm reading that Monster's warranty doesn't cover "brown outs"?

You only get 6mts warranty on the monster products from defects


Warranty won't cover equipment damages, that's for US only

I am sure no warranty covers brown-outs - if they do it would be called "insurance" not "warranty"

a brown-out is not the proper operating criteria and so would not be covered by ANY warranty

Was just asking good Sir.

[MonsterPower]

what power protection do you currently use duane? reason i ask is because right now i have a sony led tv coupled with the digital cable box.. i plan to add a home theatre system as well as blu ray and ps3 later on, so if i do look to invest in a line conditioner and surge supressor it could handle the additional components

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Don't know if Raptor might be able to say, but I'm reading that Monster's warranty doesn't cover "brown outs"?

You only get 6mts warranty on the monster products from defects


Warranty won't cover equipment damages, that's for US only

I am sure no warranty covers brown-outs - if they do it would be called "insurance" not "warranty"

a brown-out is not the proper operating criteria and so would not be covered by ANY warranty

Was just asking good Sir.

no scene dan, prolly came across a lil harsh

you can try a UPS with a line conditioner or get a TripLite line conditioner and use it with the UPS - the voltage regulator might be iffy since not all of them do what they claim in terms of boosting for low voltage

[X_Factor]

CTC insisted we purchase this below, to get proper warranty
http://www.powercom-usa.com/ProductDetail.asp?ID=11
we suffer from occassional low voltage and never had a prob yet, it works pretty good
when power goes the tv remains on up to about 10mins(maybe a little more) so we can power it it off properly

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

CTC insisted we purchase this below, to get proper warranty
http://www.powercom-usa.com/ProductDetail.asp?ID=11
we suffer from occassional low voltage and never had a prob yet, it works pretty good
when power goes the tv remains on up to about 10mins(maybe a little more) so we can power it it off properly

well there you go, a UPS and it claims voltage regulation too.

at 625VA I think you can only run your TV off of it? a plasma might need more?
what do you protect your player, receiver, subwoofer, PS3, xbox etc with?

the amp and sub will pull alot

[HCCA]

CTC insisted we purchase this below, to get proper warranty
http://www.powercom-usa.com/ProductDetail.asp?ID=11
we suffer from occassional low voltage and never had a prob yet, it works pretty good
when power goes the tv remains on up to about 10mins(maybe a little more) so we can power it it off properly

When i bought my 32" lcdtv from them last year they didn't mention anything about a ups/line conditioner for warranty purposes. Using it on ah APC 550VA ups nevertheless.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

reember that a UPS is for backup power - they only go to battery power when there is a power failure.

if the UPS has no proper line conditioning, noise filtration and voltage regulation then you no better off than plugging it into the wall except when lights go.

Only devices with hard drives need to be shut down properly really.

[HCCA]

reember that a UPS is for backup power - they only go to battery power when there is a power failure.

if the UPS has no proper line conditioning, noise filtration and voltage regulation then you no better off than plugging it into the wall except when lights go.

Only devices with hard drives need to be shut down properly really.

Yeah u have a point dey.

Forgot about the line conditioning ting which the apc unit does not have.

Have this to use instead: http://www.powercom-usa.com/ProductDetail.asp?ID=3978

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

and don't forget noise filtration - for a hometheater setup with all those components plugged into an AC source you can get alot of line noise that will show up in your picture and sound

you don't really notice the noise is there until you get proper filtration and realise how much clearer, sharper and cleaner everything becomes