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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby York » November 30th, 2014, 1:18 pm

i agree with that last statement to some extent. GOD tests those who say they believe but it doesn't mean that disbelievers are not tested because God didn't make one person a believer and another a disbeliever. The believer may be tested more as he needs to refrain and control his desires. The disbeliever doesn't look at these things as any kind of test, it is open season for him.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » November 30th, 2014, 5:01 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:So godless people...

-bounce their toe more
-suffer the loss of loved ones more (guessing that either means they have more loved ones or live longer
- Gets cooked by the sun more (that's why Trinidad godless... because we in the tropics)
- get horn more
- work in town more
- have car problems more
- loose rent money more
- and smell worse and sheit more?


no i said those are the natural or common elements of suffering everyone face. all things like that that cause us stress in this life which is alot more than the things in thie list i made. just used examples to support the idea that suffering in common to everyone, rich or poor Godless or not. so suffering in whichever way is a common element of this world we born into.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » November 30th, 2014, 5:07 pm

meccalli wrote:For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all.

More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you.

Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

On the contrary, the Godly probably suffers more.


well said, we all suffer, but when we experience good things it is as a reward from God. but dont get too happy if ur Godless yet, u excluded from the promise of eternal life. u may get the rewards of this reality u serve in, work hard and make alot of money etc. but when it come to the major reward u gonna lose out.. according to the scripture. God delivers his true followers out of all suffering. yuh could get both eternal life and riches, but because of the nature of the teaching, if we dont become rich, that is no scene. we will continue to endure in our time here until we die, and rise up to life after death, and never endure suffering again. so that is comforting, when God bless you and all that worry goes away from you, we face no envy to those who seem to be getting more than us in this life.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby grad » November 30th, 2014, 10:36 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
grad wrote:It is very, very strange that Trinidad and Tobago is not a perfect society. After all, we have so many people here with solutions for every single problem bedevilling us.
Only last Monday, for example, a professor emeritus named Theodore Lewis explained in an Express column how to stop murders: all the authorities have to do is ensure that young black men are taught about their African ancestry and get licks from the neighbours. Prof Lewis knows these solutions work because in his childhood he was “guaranteed a cut-tail” in his community which, along with the Black Power protests in the 1970s that “altered the mindset of my generation for the better”, explains how he turned out strong yet absorbent. Thus, once young black men learn to beat drums and worship Ogun, they won’t be killing one another over URP monies or drug turf or gold teeth. After all, look how peaceful and prosperous African societies have always been.
In that same Monday Express, solutions to corruption were also presented by UNC hack Capil Bissoon and never-badtalk-the-PNM columnist Keith Subero. Both, in different ways, argued that corruption could be solved by accepting corruption. According to Bissoon, corruption “occurs at all levels” and “has been embedded in our DNA”. So when the People’s National Movement accuses the United National Congress of corruption, Bissoon wrote, “it appears to be a case of pot calling kettle black.” In other words, while the PNM is black-hearted, the UNC is only run by blackguards who needn’t learn the shango.
Similarly, Subero in his column argued that T&T has benefited socially from its energy revenues, hence solving the problem of the resource curse in 734 words. But his main purpose was to praise Dr Ken Julien, who gave this country gas while avoiding flatulence. This echoes a statement made by PNM leader Keith Rowley, who once asserted that “This country owes Prof Julien a debt of gratitude”, because apparently the fact that Julien became a multi-millionaire from being T&T’s energy czar was not payback enough.
So, according to Subero, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan should not be suing Prof Julien for mismanagement at e-Teck and the UTT because Ramlogan hasn’t also sued Environment Minister Ganga Singh for mismanagement at WASA. In other words, you can stop corruption by ensuring that, if all wrong-doing isn’t prosecuted, no wrong-doing is. And so, writes Subero, “every T&T citizen should say a quiet prayer for the late Prime Minister Dr Eric Williams and for Prof Ken Julien, every day.”
This, of course, is the ultimate solution for all the country’s woes. Several times a year religious groups pray to stop murders, floods and homosexuality. Yet some men continue to have sex with one another, hence causing homicide and heavy rains. Which, according to artist Leroy Clarke, means that gays are especially numerous in Laventille and Mayaro. Parliament even starts every session with a prayer, yet Government ministers still manipulate tenders for multi-million-dollar projects; State board members still award contracts worth $499,999 to companies run by themselves; and the President remains silent on whether he asked for a housing allowance for himself, housing for his aide, and a house dress for his wife.
How can this be? It cannot be that prayer doesn’t work, because only atheists believe that and, as Subero and the Constitution suggest, non-believers are not citizens of T&T. So, if God is not answering all these prayers from all these religious leaders, it must be because the people aren’t following all God’s rules: like killing disobedient children; beating lustful women; and not eating shrimp, pork or beef.
Ergo, since we do in fact kill children and beat women, the real solution to all our problems is obvious: ban Chinese restaurants.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commenta ... 15711.html
Genius!

I could tell who the author was without clicking the link! :lol:


KB is a boss! sarcastic yet driving home the point. as much as i believe in God, his style of writing would make anyone think twice.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby York » December 1st, 2014, 8:52 am

grad wrote:KB is a boss! sarcastic yet driving home the point. as much as i believe in God, his style of writing would make anyone think twice.

so he's an agent of evil among those who oppose God?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Chimera » December 1st, 2014, 9:23 am

Lol @ man made scripture

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 1st, 2014, 9:25 am

grad wrote:This, of course, is the ultimate solution for all the country’s woes. Several times a year religious groups pray to stop murders, floods and homosexuality. Yet some men continue to have sex with one another, hence causing homicide and heavy rains. Which, according to artist Leroy Clarke, means that gays are especially numerous in Laventille and Mayaro.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » December 1st, 2014, 10:57 am

Give love a chance.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 1st, 2014, 11:23 am

RBphoto wrote:Give love a chance.


for you baby, all de chances you want

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 1st, 2014, 11:42 am

MG Man wrote:
RBphoto wrote:Give love a chance.


for you baby, all de chances you want

MG man, I'll give you a chance.... I'll give you a chance so hard...

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 1st, 2014, 11:45 am

PM sent

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » December 1st, 2014, 12:46 pm

i could tell the 2 of allyuh dont wear belt to hold up allyuh pants. allyuh like real slackness 8-)

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » December 1st, 2014, 1:07 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
grad wrote:This, of course, is the ultimate solution for all the country’s woes. Several times a year religious groups pray to stop murders, floods and homosexuality. Yet some men continue to have sex with one another, hence causing homicide and heavy rains. Which, according to artist Leroy Clarke, means that gays are especially numerous in Laventille and Mayaro.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


i found this part hilarious as well. he might be right tho could be a set of battyman playing badboy lol. i might also add that the sudden heavy showers we experiencing flooding out the country might be due to an upsurge in manhole activity.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 1st, 2014, 3:34 pm

I hear yuh blues clues. Clogged manhole does cause flood end. MG man I hope youe house on stilts eh. Ah passin chu later. Like rong 5 and ting

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 1st, 2014, 3:35 pm

house up on all four...back dor open for when yuh pass

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » December 1st, 2014, 3:39 pm

MG Man wrote:house up on all four...back dor open for when yuh pass



Burglary in progress.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 1st, 2014, 3:57 pm

looks like my assets gonna be plundered again

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » December 2nd, 2014, 11:08 am

MG Man wrote:assets


You own young female donkeys? Whatever on earth are those good for?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 2nd, 2014, 11:19 am

If you have to ask bro, then you don't deserve to know

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » December 2nd, 2014, 11:22 am

Slartibartfast wrote:If you have to ask bro, then you don't deserve to know


So can't I be a little.. curious?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » December 2nd, 2014, 11:23 am

Can't a guy point out a Homonym?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby ruffneck_12 » December 2nd, 2014, 3:44 pm

*giggles*

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 2nd, 2014, 3:51 pm

last night was awesome, guys, especially knowing Jesus was watching with a hidden smirk

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 2nd, 2014, 4:06 pm

I'm confused... if what we did was supposed to cause flooding and murder, why was it already raining and Jesus up on a crucifix before I even came?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 2nd, 2014, 4:10 pm

prequel

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby ruffneck_12 » December 2nd, 2014, 4:18 pm

Study Adam and Eve's sons and daughters had to have sex with each other to populate the earth

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 2nd, 2014, 4:27 pm

is how god save de best ppl (Lot and he family) from de fire, den kill de man wife cuz she had dem feels and made a lok back, then de daughters drunken pops and hit 'im de poongapoonga.....dem's de peeps god chose?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 2nd, 2014, 5:58 pm

Hey who ever said God was perfect...

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Chimera » December 2nd, 2014, 6:03 pm

All the supporters

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Re: The Religion Discussion

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