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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Habit7 » December 26th, 2014, 10:43 am

sMASH wrote:The singularity event out of which spewed time, space, matter, all that is in the universe.
The indomitable faith that allows for nothing to explode and create an organise everything.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » December 27th, 2014, 3:26 am

Habit7 wrote:
sMASH wrote:The singularity event out of which spewed time, space, matter, all that is in the universe.
The indomitable faith that allows for nothing to explode and create an organise everything.


a mona lisa created by thrashing different colour paints into a bucket, and splashing it all out unto the canvas.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 27th, 2014, 3:30 pm

bluesclues wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
sMASH wrote:The singularity event out of which spewed time, space, matter, all that is in the universe.
The indomitable faith that allows for nothing to explode and create an organise everything.


a mona lisa created by thrashing different colour paints into a bucket, and splashing it all out unto the canvas.
what percentage of paint on the canvas of the mona lisa was placed there with the purpose of creating the mona lisa? What percentage of the universe has been put here for the purpose of sustaining life?

What evidence is there to support your belief that we are so significant to the existence of this universe?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » December 27th, 2014, 8:09 pm

Heaven is... enjoying Jim Reeves on Christmas day.. even though you not a Christian.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » December 27th, 2014, 10:05 pm

Jim reeves have some low notes dere ...

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » December 28th, 2014, 4:17 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
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Habit7 wrote:
sMASH wrote:The singularity event out of which spewed time, space, matter, all that is in the universe.
The indomitable faith that allows for nothing to explode and create an organise everything.


a mona lisa created by thrashing different colour paints into a bucket, and splashing it all out unto the canvas.
what percentage of paint on the canvas of the mona lisa was placed there with the purpose of creating the mona lisa? What percentage of the universe has been put here for the purpose of sustaining life?

What evidence is there to support your belief that we are so significant to the existence of this universe?


as long as you not trying to be technical with the layers of paint under it. all of the paint was willfully structured how it was to fullfil the purpose. in our corner of the universe it has the structures to support life.. but in another corner it hbelongs to a structure which would be considered hostile to a biological organism, however serve a greater purpose in upholding the vaccuum of space and the various solar systems around it.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » December 28th, 2014, 5:03 am

Can humans exist without nature?
Can nature exist without humans?
Are there aliens, and do they pray to Jesus?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 28th, 2014, 5:52 am

I dont think you realise that we are the exception, the anomaly, an event too rare to be called a mistake because mistakes occur more often that humanel existence (not that the universe can make mistakes because everything just is). Only 10% of our own solar system can support life and there are countless celestial scenarios that can end it in the blink if an eye (which our existence is compared to the timeline of the existence of the universe).

Your analogy makes it seem like there are equal opportunities for life and death in the universe but you fail to realise that almost all if the universe is dead (I.e. inanimate).

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » December 28th, 2014, 11:11 am

Slartibartfast wrote:I dont think you realise that we are the exception, the anomaly, an event too rare to be called a mistake because mistakes occur more often that humanel existence (not that the universe can make mistakes because everything just is). Only 10% of our own solar system can support life and there are countless celestial scenarios that can end it in the blink if an eye (which our existence is compared to the timeline of the existence of the universe).

Your analogy makes it seem like there are equal opportunities for life and death in the universe but you fail to realise that almost all if the universe is dead (I.e. inanimate).


this is merely an assumption. but we all know the universe is teaming with life. there is noted a trillion earthlike planets in our corner alone. and yes, they all recognize Jesus as the saviour.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 29th, 2014, 8:16 am

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I don't know where to start. You should catch up on your reading.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 29th, 2014, 3:29 pm

why did god give adam an appendix?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » December 29th, 2014, 5:44 pm

Why did he give an Adam at all... For that matter.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Habit7 » December 29th, 2014, 11:01 pm

MG Man wrote:why did god give adam an appendix?
Not this again...
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Your appendix, the thing that gives you appendicitis and doctors have to cut it out, is a vestigial organ.


No Duane it isn't http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shorts ... r-all.html
This one of the many anecdotes secondary school students are taught to bolster evolutionary theory claims which with little research crumbles apart very quickly.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 29th, 2014, 11:05 pm

MG Man wrote:why did god give adam an appendix?

I know right! And he didnt even give Eve a table of contents.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » December 30th, 2014, 12:02 am

Not ODBII compliant in the slightest

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 30th, 2014, 7:35 am

Why didn't got make buttholes self-cleaning?
All other animals don't have to wipe their bamsee.... I mean jeez, he coulda engineered us to poop out convenient solid pellets or summ

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby ruffneck_12 » December 30th, 2014, 7:46 am

I agree, having a butthole up inside a deep,damp and warm crease is the perfect place for bacteria

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » December 30th, 2014, 8:29 am

MG Man wrote:Why didn't got make buttholes self-cleaning?

Waiting on Dyson to bring out a patent for this with ball and vortex technology.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby MG Man » December 30th, 2014, 10:51 am

Dyson > gawd

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Knight Rider » January 9th, 2015, 8:04 pm

Sad about the murtis in barrackpore. Ignorance is a hell of a thing

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » January 9th, 2015, 11:57 pm

MG Man wrote:Why didn't got make buttholes self-cleaning?
All other animals don't have to wipe their bamsee.... I mean jeez, he coulda engineered us to poop out convenient solid pellets or summ


Pingpong balls count as pellets or no?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby ruffneck_12 » January 10th, 2015, 12:10 am

If every non-muslim drew Prophet Mohammed... wud the extremists try to kill them and start a world war?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Slartibartfast » January 10th, 2015, 2:57 am

You mean in addition to the one that they are trying to start now?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » January 12th, 2015, 4:39 am

managed to find a lecture which i think shares my views and describes everything ive been explaining. this is the real case for creationism vs evolution. and why creationism is the wiser position.


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby RBphoto » January 12th, 2015, 7:47 am

Thanks for the cliffs notes. Did not watch.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » February 13th, 2015, 8:28 pm

Just wanted to share this post as it pertains to theological explanation. as you all know i believe that all religions come from the one Creator God. some lost their way in history and became pagan and God led the people who would continue to obey him out of those areas to form a new teaching with greater clarifications to prevent us from making the same mistakes again. as a result all of us are connected, and all of today's surviving practices are part of God's plan and hold a purpose for their existence. for today ill just address a small amount of what is the foundation of the Catholic Church's Theology behind symbolism, and why Christian rituals should not be mistaken for idol worship etc. i will focus on the connection between Judaism, Christianity and Islam as i believe they are all from the same God, as well as Buddhism and Hinduism which also contains within it their own unique set of secrets regarding spirituality and connection to the one God. I believe we are all brothers who have misinterpreted eachother and this leads us to feud of theological and ideological pursuits. so without further adew.

The sign of the Cross. what is the meaning of this symbol? and why it is not idolatry. The sign of the Cross as some will posit especially with Jesus on it is viewed by some as a form of idolatry. however, it will take some clarification of the meaning of this symbol, it's message that is extrapolated throughout the bible as it conveys a way of life and a task that humans are to individually accomplish within themselves. you may have heard the term "worshiping the cross". however, Christians are not meant to worship any graven image because God is invisible. thus there is no symbol that can be used in place of God for worship, only as a symbol for conveying meaning and a message. When we look upon the cross let it no longer be a mystery of the true meaning of the cross. and what it means to pray.

The Cross simply put, is the symbol of "Lateral thinking" unified with "Vertical Thinking". Lateral thinking is the process of solving a problem using indirect or creative methods. the answer or solution obtained is perfectly and absolutely correct. Vertical thinking is the process of solving problems through linear or logic only processes. Thus the sign of the Cross is a symbol for the unifying of our Creative and Logical minds. as the message of Christ insists, we must develop both of these faculties. insisting that our creativity, and our imagination is just as real as that which can be logical and externally observed.

When we pray, at church or at home, and in the ways we have taught our children to pray, we are taught to clasp both hands. our left and right hands come together at the center of our bodies. and are held at a height just about level with our nose. though our heads may be tilted. this symbol was made part of the ritual of the message of prayer. and again, signifies the uniting of the logical brain(right hemisphere) with the creative brain(Left hemisphere). The right-brain, was discovered by science, to affect and control the left side of the body and is also responsible for completing logical calculations within the mind. this is why you may find that many highly logical people and even atheists, are left-handers. This is because their dominant and most powerful brain area is associated with right-brain development at the cost of creativity. The Left-Brain, was in same discovered to control the right hand side of the body, and is responsible for creative/emotional thought processes.. otherwise considered illogical/irrational thought.

added to this we hold our clasped hands at the height of the nose at a point which corresponds to the location of the pineal and pituitary glands in our brains. these consist of our "Center-Brain", and divide tasks to our left and right hemispheres based on the type of problem we are faced with solving. This Center Brain, is the balancing point of both left and right hemispheres. and thus we must endeavour once more, through the message of this symbol, to develop and synchronize our thought processes. as some problems cannot be solved by logic only, we must be able to draw from both faculties in our everyday life for learning and problem solving in what is known as a "Balanced-Brain". This gives us an advantage over those who are out of balance, though they may seem to outperform us in certain logical processes. much like a calculator can calculate a sum faster, but will do poorly at being a poet, or a painter or musician.

Thus it is that the true symbol of the Cross, is a reflection of the teaching of Meditation. as this is the true form of prayer without any symbol getting in the way of our message and communication to God. Meditation in the initiate stages of the aspirant requires the synchronizing of both left and right hemispheres in balance. and through this process we gain higher faculty of perception and understanding. Naturally, the pituitary is viewed by the Church as the seat of the soul. and it is this gland which is the gateway and conduit of spirit which fills the body. This growth however is only secured by having embedded in ourselves a proper philosophy for our way of life. which allows us to practice and develop the various centers in our brain through these practices of empathy, compassion, creativity etc. thus all meditational/prayer effects are temporary unless you have the proper philosophy properly well embedded in your being through your way of life. these shape our psychological outlook on the world. and through having the correct perceptive reasoning, the world and how we perceive it also changes. with the ultimate goal, of being masters of our environment.
Thus when you look upon the sign of the Cross and when you are cross questioned as to it's meaning. you will make no error. That this one symbol, can be used to carry all of this information and knowledge.

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this information regarding brain design and usage can be easily confirmed with a google search regarding the definitions of lateral and vertical thinking. as well as brain hemisphere operations. meditation as a true form of prayer which must come from the heart with dilligent devotion provides us the link to buddhism and as a result hinduism, which as a result is connected to sources in Sumeria and Egypt to achieve what is known as "mystic converse" or "communion with the Holy Spirit"

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby ruffneck_12 » February 13th, 2015, 8:47 pm

cliff notes version?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby meccalli » February 13th, 2015, 8:51 pm

The Tau or tav was an ancient symbol in chaldean and old hebrew which took on major significance with the rule of Tammuz/Dummuz in Babylon where sun worship was born and handed down- thus why it's in every pagan religion including roman catholicism- even rome's eagle got replaced by it.
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