COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[i_code_and_stuff]

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

[hover11]

That's with regular vaccine point being driven here is that even though you take the covid vaccine you still get covid so damage to lungs is done either way

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

[Wraith King]

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

[hover11]

No it doesn't thats the long and short of it even though you are vaccinated you can still be infected and spread it among others

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

Only thing a vaccine gonna do is keep you out of ICU and HDU!!

Regarding our numbers.. expect numbers to be decreasing from now

[Dohplaydat]

That's with regular vaccine point being driven here is that even though you take the covid vaccine you still get covid so damage to lungs is done either way

No getting the vaccine means you don't get the virus as nearly as bad so no lung damage.

And secondly, if enough people get vaccinated we reduce the chance of you getting it in the first place.

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

Sinopharm, not so much, you'll get it asymptomatically and still be able to spread. All the others, spreading it becomes far less likely, especially the mRNA ones.

[Gem_in_i]

Was that a planned thing With regard to decreasing numbers

[cornfused]

Short week and reduced liming my guess.

[pugboy]

not getting permanent lung damage might be a plus

[PariaMan]

The odds of death and damage to the body so high if you get covid as compared to the low odds of side effect from the vaccine makes it a no brainer for most people

That idea of the vaccine reducing the risk of spreading it and/or getting real sick is really the core of the matter

not getting permanent lung damage might be a plus

[redmanjp]

No it doesn't thats the long and short of it even though you are vaccinated you can still be infected and spread it among others

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

the US ones at least dramatically reduce the chance of infection. also even if u do get infected the viral load is lower so still less chance of transmission. this data allowed the CDC to decide that masks no longer needed for fully vaccinated ppl.

the chini vaccine? not so much, but all vaccine keeping u out of hospital so take it now or ASAP.

[gastly369]

Was that a planned thing With regard to decreasing numbers

I say I alone was thinking this idk...

[pugboy]

drive on wet highway and you have a higher chance of some idiot losing control and hitting you

The odds of death and damage to the body so high if you get covid as compared to the low odds of side effect from the vaccine makes it a no brainer for most people

That idea of the vaccine reducing the risk of spreading it and/or getting real sick is really the core of the matter

not getting permanent lung damage might be a plus

[Dohplaydat]

No it doesn't thats the long and short of it even though you are vaccinated you can still be infected and spread it among others

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

the US ones at least dramatically reduce the chance of infection. also even if u do get infected the viral load is lower so still less chance of transmission. this data allowed the CDC to decide that masks no longer needed for fully vaccinated ppl.

the chini vaccine? not so much, but all vaccine keeping u out of hospital so take it now or ASAP.

I honestly need to understand the logic of anti-vaxxers.

Are they relying on our herd immunity to keep them safe? If so that is utterly selfish.

Are they thinking if they get covid 'naturally' to become immune that's better than a vaccine? Well, it's not even close, you have lesser immunity for a shorter time and likely will have permanent damage shortening your lifespan.

Are they logically weighing out the risks to getting covid versus the risks of taking the vaccine? Aside from the AZ & JJ causing blood clots in 1 in 250k persons who are predominantly female, there is no real risk of anything bad happening to you.

Are they scared of long-term effects? A fair point, but also a moot point as vaccines have been long studied and very little if any had long-term effects. The real grave side effects tend to always show up quickly. But also, do these same persons consider the long term effect of everything they ingest? No, then why exercise such scrutiny on something that is NEEDED. It reeks of fear and illogic.

[matr1x]

Anyone feel they playing with these numbers from the start?


How is cpep still getting paid? For what exactly? We money taking a walk

[Wraith King]

Anyone feel they playing with these numbers from the start?


How is cpep still getting paid? For what exactly? We money taking a walk

They control the information being released. Ask yourself, do you trust any politician in Trinidad?

[drchaos]

No it doesn't thats the long and short of it even though you are vaccinated you can still be infected and spread it among others

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

the US ones at least dramatically reduce the chance of infection. also even if u do get infected the viral load is lower so still less chance of transmission. this data allowed the CDC to decide that masks no longer needed for fully vaccinated ppl.

the chini vaccine? not so much, but all vaccine keeping u out of hospital so take it now or ASAP.

I honestly need to understand the logic of anti-vaxxers.

Are they relying on our herd immunity to keep them safe? If so that is utterly selfish.

Are they thinking if they get covid 'naturally' to become immune that's better than a vaccine? Well, it's not even close, you have lesser immunity for a shorter time and likely will have permanent damage shortening your lifespan.

Are they logically weighing out the risks to getting covid versus the risks of taking the vaccine? Aside from the AZ & JJ causing blood clots in 1 in 250k persons who are predominantly female, there is no real risk of anything bad happening to you.

Are they scared of long-term effects? A fair point, but also a moot point as vaccines have been long studied and very little if any had long-term effects. The real grave side effects tend to always show up quickly. But also, do these same persons consider the long term effect of everything they ingest? No, then why exercise such scrutiny on something that is NEEDED. It reeks of fear and illogic.

The Bold text above is not true.

The data suggests you are protected for AT LEAST (or at mininmum) 6 months with natural infection.
Also new data is finding long lived memory B cells which means even longer lasting immunity.

Vaccine and Natural infection are both acceptable ways of being protected.

[matr1x]

Anyone feel they playing with these numbers from the start?


How is cpep still getting paid? For what exactly? We money taking a walk

They control the information being released. Ask yourself, do you trust any politician in Trinidad?

Pnm have always been excellent at being opportunistic. They have been cooking the figures to suit their need.

[drchaos]

Anyone feel they playing with these numbers from the start?


How is cpep still getting paid? For what exactly? We money taking a walk

They control the information being released. Ask yourself, do you trust any politician in Trinidad?

Pnm have always been excellent at being opportunistic. They have been cooking the figures to suit their need.

The devious drug they doling out is fear ...
I have even spoken too UNC sycophant's who touting how great the PM is handling this.
Doh matter if you yellow or red. Fear is addictive.

[Dohplaydat]

No it doesn't thats the long and short of it even though you are vaccinated you can still be infected and spread it among others

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

the US ones at least dramatically reduce the chance of infection. also even if u do get infected the viral load is lower so still less chance of transmission. this data allowed the CDC to decide that masks no longer needed for fully vaccinated ppl.

the chini vaccine? not so much, but all vaccine keeping u out of hospital so take it now or ASAP.

I honestly need to understand the logic of anti-vaxxers.

Are they relying on our herd immunity to keep them safe? If so that is utterly selfish.

Are they thinking if they get covid 'naturally' to become immune that's better than a vaccine? Well, it's not even close, you have lesser immunity for a shorter time and likely will have permanent damage shortening your lifespan.

Are they logically weighing out the risks to getting covid versus the risks of taking the vaccine? Aside from the AZ & JJ causing blood clots in 1 in 250k persons who are predominantly female, there is no real risk of anything bad happening to you.

Are they scared of long-term effects? A fair point, but also a moot point as vaccines have been long studied and very little if any had long-term effects. The real grave side effects tend to always show up quickly. But also, do these same persons consider the long term effect of everything they ingest? No, then why exercise such scrutiny on something that is NEEDED. It reeks of fear and illogic.

The Bold text above is not true.

The data suggests you are protected for AT LEAST (or at mininmum) 6 months with natural infection.
Also new data is finding long lived memory B cells which means even longer lasting immunity.

Vaccine and Natural infection are both acceptable ways of being protected.

Yea and no. Many problems with making it seem like a viable choice.

Getting the virus naturally can kill you, or in most cases leave you with permanent damage.

Secondly, natural immunity lasts 6-8 months, and that's against the same strain. With new strains surfacing now, efficacy goes down a lot. In some cases, the 2nd reinfection resulted in far worse outcomes.

So yea it's a choice, but it's quite a stupid choice to go the non-vaccine route.

[pugboy]

how long vaccine immunity still up in the air too

i see the top dog donnell fella passed today

[jhonnieblue]

I don't think you should weigh out the pro and cons of vaccine vs getting the virus for generating immunity. There are a multidue of associated medical conditions which can linger on or develop post covid infections.

https://journaljammr.com/index.php/JAMM ... 0916/57896

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... ne.0249644

You can review some of these accessible journal articles for information. Please limit news articles as sources of information.

In short a comparative risk analysis will show that the vaccine is a clear choice for mitigating infection and spread of the virus.

[K74T]

Fly high king

[goalpost]

Who is that? RIP.

[goalpost]

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

Only thing a vaccine gonna do is keep you out of ICU and HDU!!

Regarding our numbers.. expect numbers to be decreasing from now

Shakes, just to be clear you meant from now, or for now?

Does this mean we seeing the light at the end of the tunnel?

[Country_Bookie]

There's the hardcore anti vaxxers who believe Bill Gates going to track them or their DNA will be altered.

Then there's the newer anti vaxxers who heavily influenced by fake news on social media. They concerned about how fast the vaccines were developed but haven't read up about operation warp speed and how different steps were done simultaneously so we get vaccines before the virus wiped out the human race. They want to wait and see. Let's hope they don't get covid-19 while waiting.

[drchaos]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... y-covid-19

Dohplaydat is engaging in fear mongering.
Antibodies drop slightly from the 6-8 month mark ... BUT ... and its a big BUT

Plasma memory B cells have been shown to be increasing over that period up to 6 months. Which proves long lasting immunity beyond 6-8 months since these memory cells were shown not to decline in the study.

Remember there is alot of money in vaccinating people ...

What we need to focus on is vaccinating those who haven't been infected and leaving the 98% of people who survived covid alone so we can achieve Herd Immunity faster.

[K74T]

[Wraith King]

Anyone feel they playing with these numbers from the start?


How is cpep still getting paid? For what exactly? We money taking a walk

They control the information being released. Ask yourself, do you trust any politician in Trinidad?

Pnm have always been excellent at being opportunistic. They have been cooking the figures to suit their need.

In Keith's defence he did say 50% of 180,000 is 140,000 so maybe he's terrible at Mathematics.

[hover11]

Like we said it's a choice if you want to put that vaccine in your body every 6 months is up to you but if someone chooses not to they selfish and stupid , most important is that you're "protected" isn't that what matters. Not everyone will share your point of your view, if you want ppl to be pro vaxxers and just jab needles in their arms then turn to communism.

No it doesn't thats the long and short of it even though you are vaccinated you can still be infected and spread it among others

Why is a vaccine better than a cure?

Because to use a cure, you have to know that you're infected. By the time you realize you're infected, the virus has already had a chance to do significant damage to you, but what's worse is that by this time, you would have already infected other people. Vaccines prevent both of these scenarios

Does the vaccine prevents you from getting and spreading the virus?

the US ones at least dramatically reduce the chance of infection. also even if u do get infected the viral load is lower so still less chance of transmission. this data allowed the CDC to decide that masks no longer needed for fully vaccinated ppl.

the chini vaccine? not so much, but all vaccine keeping u out of hospital so take it now or ASAP.

I honestly need to understand the logic of anti-vaxxers.

Are they relying on our herd immunity to keep them safe? If so that is utterly selfish.

Are they thinking if they get covid 'naturally' to become immune that's better than a vaccine? Well, it's not even close, you have lesser immunity for a shorter time and likely will have permanent damage shortening your lifespan.

Are they logically weighing out the risks to getting covid versus the risks of taking the vaccine? Aside from the AZ & JJ causing blood clots in 1 in 250k persons who are predominantly female, there is no real risk of anything bad happening to you.

Are they scared of long-term effects? A fair point, but also a moot point as vaccines have been long studied and very little if any had long-term effects. The real grave side effects tend to always show up quickly. But also, do these same persons consider the long term effect of everything they ingest? No, then why exercise such scrutiny on something that is NEEDED. It reeks of fear and illogic.

The Bold text above is not true.

The data suggests you are protected for AT LEAST (or at mininmum) 6 months with natural infection.
Also new data is finding long lived memory B cells which means even longer lasting immunity.

Vaccine and Natural infection are both acceptable ways of being protected.

Yea and no. Many problems with making it seem like a viable choice.

Getting the virus naturally can kill you, or in most cases leave you with permanent damage.

Secondly, natural immunity lasts 6-8 months, and that's against the same strain. With new strains surfacing now, efficacy goes down a lot. In some cases, the 2nd reinfection resulted in far worse outcomes.

So yea it's a choice, but it's quite a stupid choice to go the non-vaccine route.