Give Illegals Amnesty Now !

[mrtrini45]

any thing to say to make the goverment look bad

[zoom rader]

I just like how race is thrown in about the African immigrants being deported . I remember earlier this year they sent back several Indian nationals from the Indian flea market. I also always hearing about Guyanese nationals getting deported. What's the difference?

There are a few that want to see trini as an afro rooted nation, that's the difference. You will seldom hear of other nationalities getting deported, but let it be an african and there's an uproar to stir up public outcry.
Most real trinis including afro trinis dont give a damn about Africans and could not care less. They will tolerate caricom nationals faster that Africans.

[V2NR 3.0]

Phok off; we're full.

well said

[88sins]

lmbo @ amnesty

tell the illegals that hidin they could get citizenship if they come in to immigration & give particulars about how long they here & where they staying. then pick them up one by one & send they backside back home. it's one of the oldest tricks in the book.

& these fools fall for it every time

[RASC]

No wonder I see ZR and his cohorts scared shitlesss.

... Illegal Nigerians in Palmiste neighborhood running hoess, brandishing cutlasses and fighting amoungst one another in the open.

Guy giving report was so scared he asking for anonymity IN HIS OWN COUNTRY in his OWN NATIONAL NEWSPAPER for fear of reprisal IN HIS OWN NEIGHBOURHOOD!?!

ROFL


Monkey know which tree to climb- cause I'm sure in other neighborhoods they dare not pull those stunts. I sure they brushing a few Doctors and Engineer's wives in the back there also!

Cuckolding Stereotypes Cyar Done!

[toyota2nr]

Just remember most of them came here before May 24th 2010 and overstayed their time.

SEND THEM BACK!!!!!

[toyota2nr]

Despite mounting a last-ditch legal challenge against their deportations, a group of illegal immigrants were yesterday sent back to West Africa aboard a Caribbean Airlines charter flight. The 11 men from Ghana, many of whom had been living in T&T for over ten years after arriving here illegally, were accompanied by immigration officials on the flight which left the Piarco International Airport around 7 am yesterday.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-12-08/11-sent-back-west-africa

This is good news...

If you answered yes to the poll you are what's wrong with the world.

[RASC]

No wonder I see ZR and his cohorts scared shitlesss.

... Illegal Nigerians in Palmiste neighborhood running hoess, brandishing cutlasses and fighting amoungst one another in the open.

Guy giving report was so scared he asking for anonymity IN HIS OWN COUNTRY in his OWN NATIONAL NEWSPAPER for fear of reprisal IN HIS OWN NEIGHBOURHOOD!?!

ROFL


Monkey know which tree to climb- cause I'm sure in other neighborhoods they dare not pull those stunts. I sure they brushing a few Doctors and Engineer's wives in the back there also!

Cuckolding Stereotypes Cyar Done!

Article in Question:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Res ... lmob=y&c=n

[TriniAutoMart]

Griffith said He denied Kambon’s statements that 80 per cent of the immigrants currently detained at the Immigration Detention Centre, Arima, were from Africa.

“There are 131 detainees currently housed at the Immigration Detention Centre and only 23 detainees are African nationals. These include 14 from Nigeria, seven from Ghana and two from Senegal and South Africa respectively, Griffith said. Saying this represents only 17.8 per cent of the total number of detainees, Griffith added: “651 people have been repatriated from T&T to the Caribbean, Latin American, European and African countries in 2014 of which only nine were African nationals.

Code: Select all

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-12-09/griffith-deportations-africans-not-target

[toyota2nr]

Lol Kambon grasping at any straw to turn this into a race issue.

[UML]

Ghanaian may be freed today
Court denies State extension...
By Rickie Ramdass rickie.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Nov 12, 2014 at 10:16 PM ECT

Story Updated: Nov 12, 2014 at 10:16 PM ECT
GHANAIAN national Musah Ibrahim, who has been detained at the Immigration Detention Centre in Aripo for close to 15 months awaiting deportation, could be released as early as today after a High Court judge yesterday denied a second extension of time to the State to comply with the deportation order.
Justice Vashiest Kokaram, presiding at the Hall of Justice in Port of Spain, dismissed the application, saying there was no evidence before the court to prove the State’s argument that $2.5 million had already been spent to acquire a chartered flight to facilitate the deportation, nor was there any guarantee that the deportation would in fact take place on November 23, as the State had argued. Ibrahim’s release, however, will last only as long until the State is fully in a position to execute the deportation order.
The judge did not outline any conditions to which Ibrahim must abide pending the deportation.
He pointed out, however, that Ibrahim was seeking to become a citizen of this country and would be fully aware that if he attempted to evade authorities it would have a negative impact on him getting permanent resident status.
In July, following the hearing of a writ of habeas corpus to have Ibrahim released, Justice Kokaram gave the State until September 30 to deport him. In the instance that this was not done, the judge ordered that he should be released pending the deportation.
However, days before the deadline date, the State made an application for an extension of time which was granted giving it until November 6 to execute the order. On Tuesday it made the second application.
Kokaram said he had no doubt that the State was making all efforts to put steps in place to deport Ibrahim, but the court was not willing to act “in vain” and grant a second extension only for a third application to be made as the order was unable to be executed.
In addition to the dismissal of the State’s application, the judge also dismissed an application filed by Ibrahim’s attorneys as they sought leave from the court to initiate judicial review proceedings against Minister of National Security Gary Griffith for not taking into consideration a letter sent to the ministry asking him to exercise his power to quash the deportation order on compassionate grounds and grounds of unusual hardship.
Ibrahim’s attorneys stated that the minister did not take the letter into consideration as he never replied to them despite the letter being sent to him on August 14. The judge stated in his ruling that there was also no evidence to prove that the letter had been sent or received by the minister.
“There is not sufficient evidence that the application was actually brought to the attention of the minister. Where was it served? Outside the (Ministry of National Security) building, on the street or at the minister’s door? It would be dangerous to grant leave then only to find out the application was not even served,” the judge said.

Wife feels relief
Ibrahim entered this country illegally sometime in May 2009, and married Trinidadian national Ashley Ibrahim in 2010 following which the two became parents of a baby boy.
Evidence was given during the habeas corpus hearing earlier this year that, in 2013, the Minister of National Security acknowledged the woman’s application for her husband to travel to a neighbouring Caricom country and re-enter this country to pursue his resident application.
However, the following day while attempting to leave this country for Venezuela at Pier One, Chaguaramas, he was arrested and charged with entering this country illegally in 2009 and failing to report to immigration officers. On April 23, 2013, Ibrahim appeared in the Port of Spain Magistrates’ Court and was fined $5,000 which was eventually paid.
Following yesterday’s ruling Ashley Ibrahim told reporters she felt “relief” that her husband could be released from the centre as early as today.
Ibrahim’s attorney Farid Scoon said he was satisfied that the court did not agree with the weak arguments put forward by the State.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Gha ... 05221.html

we have 100,000 + illegal immigrants and we cant find them, when he goes into hiding; then what?

In his evidence in the case, acting Chief Immigration Officer Gerry Downes explained that his division planned to deport several other West Africans with Ibrahim in order to maximise on the hefty cost. Ibrahim was eventually released last month, after the division had repeatedly failed to receive Government funding for the flight within the time frame set by Kokaram.

The T&T Guardian understands that since his release on November 13, immigration officials have not seen or heard from Ibrahim. However, they could not cancel the flight as it had already been paid for.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-12- ... est-africa

REBELS IN OUR LAND
2013: Special Branch warned ex-minister Warner of ‘serious threat’ posed by 66 Nigerian students in T&T
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Dec 9, 2014 at 1:55 AM ECT

Story Updated: Dec 9, 2014 at 1:55 AM ECT
Nigerian rebels who were involved in military attacks against the Nigerian government spent a year in this country as tourism students.
This occurred even though the head of the Special Branch had raised a red flag and advised that they be sent back to their country as they posed a serious security threat to Trinidad and Tobago.
The issue of illegal immigrants has gripped national attention over the past few weeks, but since last year security intelligence agencies were probing the issue and wrote to former national security minister Jack Warner raising alarm about the 66 Nigerians, advising that they could cause havoc in this country.
The Express obtained a copy of the secret letter, dated March 27, 2013, to Warner from the head of the Special Branch in which he stated that the Nigerians were former combatants who were involved in numerous military attacks against Nigerian government oil installations located in the Niger Delta region, which led to the total shutdown of that country’s oil production.
Noting that the Nigerians were carded to be in Trinidad for one year, the officer stated: “They can be easily assimilated into the society and have the ability to assist others to create disastrous havoc in this country. These are experienced, violent militants and, as such, I wish to emphasise that their arrival should be considered a serious threat to our national security. In light of this, serious consideration should be given in having these individuals returned to their country and in the interim closely monitored.”
The Express contacted Warner yesterday, but he said he could not recall the letter.
However, commenting on the current deportation of illegal immigrants, Warner said his style would have been different and he would have been “more humane”.
Sources told the Express that some of the 66 Nigerians had caused serious trouble whilst they were here and on occasions the police were called in to quell situations which turned violent as they fought among themselves and created disturbances in the areas in which they stayed.
They entered this country under a government to government arrangement where they were to come here and be trained at the Trinidad and Tobago Hospitality and Tourism Institute in conjunction with the National Energy Skills Centre.
The Special Branch head, in his letter to Warner, indicated that in their investigations of these Nigerians, a letter was found in their possession purported to be from the office of the special adviser to the President of Niger Delta, Nigeria, Kingsley Kuku, to the comptroller general of the Nigerian immigration service headquarters.
The Express also obtained a copy of this confidential letter.
The letter stated the Nigerians were former combattants who were involved in numerous attacks against the Nigerian government oil installations located in the Delta region and their actions had almost led to the total shutdown of that country’s oil production.
The document stated that they were granted amnesty and had undergone non-violent transformational training at the Presidential Amnesty Demobilisation camp in Nigeria.
The Special Branch head informed Warner that the move to send these Nigerians to Trinidad was questionable and suspicions as there were numerous hospitality institutes in Nigeria while there were only two in this country.
The officer stated that within the last four to five years successive Nigerian governments have had to cope with an upsurge of terrorist attacks and the proliferation of new militant groups and they were willing to use violence to highlight the socio-economic and religious plight they faced.
“...One may reasonably conclude that the Nigerian authorities through its bilateral agreement with other countries was using these measures to rid their country of persons who are deemed to be a threat to the security of their country,” stated the Special Branch head.
He also indicated that the presence of the 66 Nigerians in this country potentially posed an immediate threat to the national security as law enforcement continues to grapple with the scourge of criminal activity.
The Express understands that the 66 Nigerians left Trinidad after their training was completed, but there were challenges during their stay and difficulty to get them to leave.

GRIFFITH: SEVERAL
RED FLAGS RAISED

National Security Minister Gary Griffith told the Express that he was aware of the letter that was sent to Warner and said that this was just one of several red flags that were raised.
Griffith reiterated that national security intelligence has found that there is a direct correlation to some illegal immigrants and criminal activities in this country.
He said he was not deeming all illegal immigrants as national security threats but there are some who pose a risk to the nation and that is why the Ministry is intent on clamping down on the situation and offering regularisation of status.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/REB ... 75361.html

[Redman]

The Nigerians were part of a govt to govt program

NESC was paid to train them

everybody knew there were part of that amnesty program before they reached..

[BRZ]

Illegal is Illegal, doesn't matter what ethnicity! SEND em back home!

[Dizzy28]

I don't think anyone as dred as the Aussies when it comes to illegals. They turn the boats back out whilst still at sea and those that do make land they send you to Nauru, Christmas Island or Papua New Guinea into a camp.

[TRAE]

aye orangefox---- they deporting now unno lol

[The_Honourable]

REBELS IN OUR LAND
2013: Special Branch warned ex-minister Warner of ‘serious threat’ posed by 66 Nigerian students in T&T
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Dec 9, 2014 at 1:55 AM ECT

Story Updated: Dec 9, 2014 at 1:55 AM ECT
Nigerian rebels who were involved in military attacks against the Nigerian government spent a year in this country as tourism students.
This occurred even though the head of the Special Branch had raised a red flag and advised that they be sent back to their country as they posed a serious security threat to Trinidad and Tobago.
The issue of illegal immigrants has gripped national attention over the past few weeks, but since last year security intelligence agencies were probing the issue and wrote to former national security minister Jack Warner raising alarm about the 66 Nigerians, advising that they could cause havoc in this country.
The Express obtained a copy of the secret letter, dated March 27, 2013, to Warner from the head of the Special Branch in which he stated that the Nigerians were former combatants who were involved in numerous military attacks against Nigerian government oil installations located in the Niger Delta region, which led to the total shutdown of that country’s oil production.
Noting that the Nigerians were carded to be in Trinidad for one year, the officer stated: “They can be easily assimilated into the society and have the ability to assist others to create disastrous havoc in this country. These are experienced, violent militants and, as such, I wish to emphasise that their arrival should be considered a serious threat to our national security. In light of this, serious consideration should be given in having these individuals returned to their country and in the interim closely monitored.”
The Express contacted Warner yesterday, but he said he could not recall the letter.
However, commenting on the current deportation of illegal immigrants, Warner said his style would have been different and he would have been “more humane”.
Sources told the Express that some of the 66 Nigerians had caused serious trouble whilst they were here and on occasions the police were called in to quell situations which turned violent as they fought among themselves and created disturbances in the areas in which they stayed.
They entered this country under a government to government arrangement where they were to come here and be trained at the Trinidad and Tobago Hospitality and Tourism Institute in conjunction with the National Energy Skills Centre.
The Special Branch head, in his letter to Warner, indicated that in their investigations of these Nigerians, a letter was found in their possession purported to be from the office of the special adviser to the President of Niger Delta, Nigeria, Kingsley Kuku, to the comptroller general of the Nigerian immigration service headquarters.
The Express also obtained a copy of this confidential letter.
The letter stated the Nigerians were former combattants who were involved in numerous attacks against the Nigerian government oil installations located in the Delta region and their actions had almost led to the total shutdown of that country’s oil production.
The document stated that they were granted amnesty and had undergone non-violent transformational training at the Presidential Amnesty Demobilisation camp in Nigeria.
The Special Branch head informed Warner that the move to send these Nigerians to Trinidad was questionable and suspicions as there were numerous hospitality institutes in Nigeria while there were only two in this country.
The officer stated that within the last four to five years successive Nigerian governments have had to cope with an upsurge of terrorist attacks and the proliferation of new militant groups and they were willing to use violence to highlight the socio-economic and religious plight they faced.
“...One may reasonably conclude that the Nigerian authorities through its bilateral agreement with other countries was using these measures to rid their country of persons who are deemed to be a threat to the security of their country,” stated the Special Branch head.
He also indicated that the presence of the 66 Nigerians in this country potentially posed an immediate threat to the national security as law enforcement continues to grapple with the scourge of criminal activity.
The Express understands that the 66 Nigerians left Trinidad after their training was completed, but there were challenges during their stay and difficulty to get them to leave.

GRIFFITH: SEVERAL
RED FLAGS RAISED

National Security Minister Gary Griffith told the Express that he was aware of the letter that was sent to Warner and said that this was just one of several red flags that were raised.
Griffith reiterated that national security intelligence has found that there is a direct correlation to some illegal immigrants and criminal activities in this country.
He said he was not deeming all illegal immigrants as national security threats but there are some who pose a risk to the nation and that is why the Ministry is intent on clamping down on the situation and offering regularisation of status.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/REB ... 75361.html

PNM be like "but but Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, China, Syria have rebels too! why dey only targeting african people? How come is only african people dey sending back?" We cyah trust Gary!

The PROPER question the PNM should be asking is how come Jack Warner and National Security didn't act on the 66 nigerians then? I'll give them credit for flagging them. These "students" come to trinidad, eat, drink, bull, wine for carnival, breeze in tobago, disturb peaceful communities and gone back.

But then again, if the government did act, kafra kambon woulda come out and play the race card while the PNM would encourage it.

[Habit7]

PNM be like "but but Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, China, Syria have rebels too! why dey only targeting african people? How come is only african people dey sending back?" We cyah trust Gary!

Where has the PNM expressed a view on this issue? Or are you using the PNM to voice your own personal biases?

BTW Those Nigerians were not illegal immigrants, they were allow in by the state who fail to do proper background checks. Much like the Russians who we paid for their sequester in a hotel only to have disappear.

Illegal immigrants must be deported. I agree with that the govt that no bias is apparent with those deported.

[Richard Marshall]

I've seen Indian, Chinese, Guyanese and Jamaican illegal immigrants taken by me already. So what's all this 'race' thing about?

[zoom rader]

It's time to stop this caricom nonsense. No more caricom trash.

[RASC]

PNM be like "but but Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, China, Syria have rebels too! why dey only targeting african people? How come is only african people dey sending back?" We cyah trust Gary!

Where has the PNM expressed a view on this issue? Or are you using the PNM to voice your own personal biases?

BTW Those Nigerians were not illegal immigrants, they were allow in by the state who fail to do proper background checks. Much like the Russians who we paid for their sequester in a hotel only to have disappear.

Illegal immigrants must be deported. I agree with that the govt that no bias is apparent with those deported.

Whole time I've been trying to figure out this PNM connection.

But let it be, theyre just proving their tribalism over and over by these words... Once ZR say it-the rest of them jump on the band wagon with out even a lick of investigation.

This is how sheep behave emotional, rash and without critical reasoning skills.

But doh worry, is a minority small party I can't believe these so called lions are so concerned with the opinions of these PNM gazelles :ROFL:

[The_Honourable]

PNM be like "but but Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, China, Syria have rebels too! why dey only targeting african people? How come is only african people dey sending back?" We cyah trust Gary!

Where has the PNM expressed a view on this issue? Or are you using the PNM to voice your own personal biases?

BTW Those Nigerians were not illegal immigrants, they were allow in by the state who fail to do proper background checks. Much like the Russians who we paid for their sequester in a hotel only to have disappear.

Illegal immigrants must be deported. I agree with that the govt that no bias is apparent with those deported.

Whole time I've been trying to figure out this PNM connection.

But let it be, theyre just proving their tribalism over and over by these words... Once ZR say it-the rest of them jump on the band wagon with out even a lick of investigation.

This is how sheep behave emotional, rash and without critical reasoning skills.

But doh worry, is a minority small party I can't believe these so called lions are so concerned with the opinions of these PNM gazelles :ROFL:

Well PNM supporters i did mean nah... they calling in radio stations and making a set of noise and having conspiracy theories. The party itself hasn't expressed a view because they know they will find themselves in a monkey pants situation with this hence why they are quiet. Kambon taking the heat instead.

Yes Habit7 i know they were not illegals but they were involved in military attacks in their homeland which people conveniently trying to avoid.

We must be concerned because this "new" pnm (even though most is the same old faces) want to go back into office. Also, the PNM not getting their house in order for elections but you hearing bacchanal instead. No wonder Pennelope Beckles staying quiet.

Jamaicans and their slackness make TV6 news tonight. Yuh will hear them pnm SUPPORTERS calling up gladiator and isha wells tomorrow. They would not say wrong is wrong and to ship them back but will quarrel instead that besides this government, the media now targeting african people.

It entertains me so let them go ahead

[UML]

681 illegal immigrants deported....11 African check newspapers tomorrow for details

Kambon is the PNM mouthpiece or is he the brainchild of the racist posters and placards on behalf of the PNM

He never provided stats of how many were given immunity in.the last 4 years and the criminal background of those deported.

As I always say..so easy to cry race...

But ppl seeing through it and getting fedup of it

[RASC]

So PNM hasn't issued a statement but y'all inferring that they're behind riling up their "supporters"?

Real Logic Here.

The PNM captivates y'all so much, they could say NOTHING, issue NO STATEMENT and STILL have you guys jumpy. For a minority party y'all seem awfully concerned

[RASC]

Kambon is being sponsored by the PNM now?

[The_Honourable]

So PNM hasn't issued a statement but y'all inferring that they're behind riling up their "supporters"?

Real Logic Here.

The PNM captivates y'all so much, they could say NOTHING, issue NO STATEMENT and STILL have you guys jumpy. For a minority party y'all seem awfully concerned

Hoss... even if the PNM party not riling up their supporters, they are not stopping them either. As long they think Kamz and the government is the enemy and needed to be voted out, the party will allow ignorant statements to pass. Listen to 91.9fm and i95.5 where even the hosts agreeing with most of the propaganda statements being said by callers.

[RASC]

So how exactly does the PNM stop their "supporters" from making these statements.

I'd be very interested to hear how this is done.

[The_Honourable]

So how exactly does the PNM stop their "supporters" from making these statements.

I'd be very interested to hear how this is done.

The PNM party should formally state their position on the matter clearly which they will not do. If they do, they will have to find a middle ground where they can blast the PP but at the same time, don't upset their support base which is a bit difficult to achieve since it involves immigration laws and race. You see, the radio hosts that are affiliated to the pnm (not all radio hosts) doing the job instead, and their view is once it makes the PP look bad.

Even though Mr Griffith released some stats on how many illegals are here and was broken down by country of origin... the illegals that were sent back, he should break them down by country and the costs for doing that so people would realize that immigration not targeting africans.

[UML]

More Guyanese (70% ah think) deported than Africans (1.5%)

But easier to cry race. PNM can only win when the race card is used!!

[RASC]

So how exactly does the PNM stop their "supporters" from making these statements.

I'd be very interested to hear how this is done.

The PNM party should formally state their position on the matter

Why tho?
I'm still trying to understand why they should be FORCED into saying anything for or against this.

This sounds EXACTLY like race baiters in the Ferguson case which want to FORCE Iggy into issuing a statement on Mike Brown.

Utter foolishness, why must they be forced into issuing a statement if they don't want to?
Y'all starting to sound like these far left liberal Social Justice Warriors In the States!

Are you a leftist/socialist?

[The_Honourable]

So how exactly does the PNM stop their "supporters" from making these statements.

I'd be very interested to hear how this is done.

The PNM party should formally state their position on the matter

Why tho?
I'm still trying to understand why they should be FORCED into saying anything for or against this.

This sounds EXACTLY like race baiters in the Ferguson case which want to FORCE Iggy into issuing a statement on Mike Brown.

Utter foolishness, why must they be forced into issuing a statement if they don't want to?
Y'all starting to sound like these far left liberal Social Justice Warriors In the States!

Are you a leftist/socialist?

This is nothing to do with race baiters.

The PNM are not obligated to make a statement but it is needed. What i sense instead is that buffers are sent out encouraging their supporters to run around like headless chicken with their propaganda and conspiracy theories on radio approx 6 months before general elections instead of telling your supporters what are the facts and the position on the matter. Once is PP bashing, the pnm don't have to say anything at all.