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Re: oil prices falling

Postby Habit7 » December 18th, 2014, 2:09 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:This contradicts Zoom Rader's earlier posts about the North Sea oil industry


North Sea oil industry 'close to collapse'
By Ben King Economics reporter, BBC News
Dec 18 2014

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC. Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money. Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Almost no new projects in the North Sea are profitable with oil below $60 a barrel, he claims...........
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30525539</span>
Habit7 wrote:ZR safe, doh worry. While he has the strongest disdain for immigrants in Trinidad, the Brits will ensure he gets his ten days over other European nationals

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby EmilioA » December 18th, 2014, 2:12 pm

zoom rader wrote:^^^ First post, PNM tuner identified



The Houston Chronicle is PNM ? I didnt know that.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby zoom rader » December 18th, 2014, 2:24 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:This contradicts Zoom Rader's earlier posts about the North Sea oil industry


North Sea oil industry 'close to collapse'
By Ben King Economics reporter, BBC News
Dec 18 2014

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC. Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money. Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Almost no new projects in the North Sea are profitable with oil below $60 a barrel, he claims...........
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30525539


I said in an earlier post, that the big oil companies are cutting the service companies staffing on projects and low producing assets.
This is point of reducing oil prices in a bid to scare off facking investments and new projects.
The drop in contractor staff is mostly short term contractors. This staffing will not affect the production side of the producers business .
The big oil producers are all too happy in dropping service / contractor staff as a way of getting rid of staff.
A simple deck hand earns an avg of £300 (3000tt) a day.
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Re: oil prices falling

Postby zoom rader » December 18th, 2014, 2:27 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:This contradicts Zoom Rader's earlier posts about the North Sea oil industry


North Sea oil industry 'close to collapse'
By Ben King Economics reporter, BBC News
Dec 18 2014

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC. Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money. Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Almost no new projects in the North Sea are profitable with oil below $60 a barrel, he claims...........
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30525539</span>
Habit7 wrote:ZR safe, doh worry. While he has the strongest disdain for immigrants in Trinidad, the Brits will ensure he gets his ten days over other European nationals


As I said before and many trinis oil expats will always be safe as they have a unique skill asset that is in demand virtually in any part of the world.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby Habit7 » December 18th, 2014, 2:32 pm

Unique skillsets wouldnt matter if it is only applicable in an expensive unconventional or offshore while only conventionals and onshores are profitable.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby SMc » December 18th, 2014, 5:31 pm

^^ you really believe ZR in Scotland? I feel he is just an annoyed ex-Oil worker whose round hole was disturbed by a square peg when his nemesis made changes in the national oil company.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 18th, 2014, 11:31 pm

SMc wrote:^^ you really believe ZR in Scotland? I feel he is just an annoyed ex-Oil worker whose round hole was disturbed by a square peg when his nemesis made changes in the national oil company.


Lol .. Hmmm recession coming and oil workers go be hit hard. Roget quiet.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby janfar » December 19th, 2014, 12:19 am

People in all those Aberdeen based companies are quaking. Cuts are inevitable with some already started. No economy would be spared.... except for KSA and KUW.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby bluesclues » December 19th, 2014, 7:18 am

Its good to be optimistic but it also good to always have contingencies. I dont think watching helplessly and hopinf for a rise is the best practice. Entertain the worst case scenario and form contingencies for mitigating the effects as best as possible

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby zoom rader » December 19th, 2014, 8:22 am

janfar wrote:People in all those Aberdeen based companies are quaking. Cuts are inevitable with some already started. No economy would be spared.... except for KSA and KUW.


Not entirely true.
Mostly Service companies working on new projects are affected.
Producers still pumping. Smaller platforms in shutdown repair mode (good timing) . Some of those that were on projects will be shifted to the shutdown repair platforms.
The big producers are not affected as ppl think. Producers normally have contractor maintenance staff, that way they avoid cost . When things bad they just release enough contractor staff to keep producing within UK health and safety laws. Not sure about trini as They have primitive health and safety laws.
On any platform in UK the producers staffing level (bp, bg, shell, Total, chevron ect) is about 20 % and contractors 80%. A mid size platform has about 80 to 120 personnel at any one time on rota.
They do the same in trini, where they mostly hire massy/ Wood group for maintenance contracts and external service companies for machine / equipment repair work.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 19th, 2014, 8:48 am

janfar wrote:People in all those Aberdeen based companies are quaking. Cuts are inevitable with some already started. No economy would be spared.... except for KSA and KUW.


Yep .. Oil workers joining URP soon.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby nervewrecker » December 19th, 2014, 6:20 pm

$45m budget cuts for them ministries. It damn good!

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 19th, 2014, 10:14 pm

^^ Also cut backs in business & consumer spending as Xmas approaching ... Hmm ?
Next year election spending may be only spending going on :)

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby nervewrecker » December 19th, 2014, 10:25 pm

Don't forget all the "jobs they create".

All them ministries have no clerks. People want work, they have them on file, expect mass hiring next year.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby bluesclues » December 21st, 2014, 1:01 am

well as they say.. never shout fire at a funeral.

http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kalets ... er-barrel/

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby desifemlove » December 21st, 2014, 6:27 am

zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:This contradicts Zoom Rader's earlier posts about the North Sea oil industry


North Sea oil industry 'close to collapse'
By Ben King Economics reporter, BBC News
Dec 18 2014

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC. Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money. Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Almost no new projects in the North Sea are profitable with oil below $60 a barrel, he claims...........
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30525539</span>
Habit7 wrote:ZR safe, doh worry. While he has the strongest disdain for immigrants in Trinidad, the Brits will ensure he gets his ten days over other European nationals


As I said before and many trinis oil expats will always be safe as they have a unique skill asset that is in demand virtually in any part of the world.


As do doctors, lawyers, digital marketers like me, etc. if yuh in Scotland, get me some original Glenfiddich for me nah...i'll pay yuh back!!

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 21st, 2014, 7:56 am

^^ No demand for oil, no demand for oil jobs.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby zoom rader » December 21st, 2014, 9:35 am

desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:This contradicts Zoom Rader's earlier posts about the North Sea oil industry


North Sea oil industry 'close to collapse'
By Ben King Economics reporter, BBC News
Dec 18 2014

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC. Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money. Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Almost no new projects in the North Sea are profitable with oil below $60 a barrel, he claims...........
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30525539</span>
Habit7 wrote:ZR safe, doh worry. While he has the strongest disdain for immigrants in Trinidad, the Brits will ensure he gets his ten days over other European nationals


As I said before and many trinis oil expats will always be safe as they have a unique skill asset that is in demand virtually in any part of the world.


As do doctors, lawyers, digital marketers like me, etc. if yuh in Scotland, get me some original Glenfiddich for me nah...i'll pay yuh back!!


Glenfiddich you can get at Piarco airport, plus it taste like sand paper.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 21st, 2014, 4:57 pm

^^ available at PriceSmart (Movie Towne). But with slow down in economy or recession looming maybe price go drop .. Lol

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » December 21st, 2014, 6:08 pm

How does falling oil prices affect Guyana?

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 21st, 2014, 7:30 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:How does falling oil prices affect Guyana?


Guyana is not an oil based economy . They are self sufficient in food supplies.
Gold is prominent . Extremely rich live a very peaceful life. Crime is low.

Recession coming soon to TT, USA has low prices at the pump and upswing in economy
per fall oil prices.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby zoom rader » December 22nd, 2014, 5:56 am

orangefox wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:How does falling oil prices affect Guyana?


Guyana is not an oil based economy . They are self sufficient in food supplies.
Gold is prominent . Extremely rich live a very peaceful life. Crime is low.

Recession coming soon to TT, USA has low prices at the pump and upswing in economy
per fall oil prices.


Well pack ur grip and head back to your home land. Hope you settle in Buxton

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby Dizzy28 » December 22nd, 2014, 1:17 pm

orangefox wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:How does falling oil prices affect Guyana?


Guyana is not an oil based economy . They are self sufficient in food supplies.
Gold is prominent . Extremely rich live a very peaceful life. Crime is low.

Recession coming soon to TT, USA has low prices at the pump and upswing in economy
per fall oil prices.


Where does the extremely rich not live a peaceful life?

WRT gold, Guyanese production reached a historic level of somewhere in the region of 481,000 ozs in 2013. At the prevailing prices at the time that is approx US$576m worth. Enough to make a few ppl rich but not enough to help develop the country and bring the poor out of poverty.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 22nd, 2014, 1:31 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
orangefox wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:How does falling oil prices affect Guyana?


Guyana is not an oil based economy . They are self sufficient in food supplies.
Gold is prominent . Extremely rich live a very peaceful life. Crime is low.

Recession coming soon to TT, USA has low prices at the pump and upswing in economy
per fall oil prices.


Where does the extremely rich not live a peaceful life?

WRT gold, Guyanese production reached a historic level of somewhere in the region of 481,000 ozs in 2013. At the prevailing prices at the time that is approx US$576m worth. Enough to make a few ppl rich but not enough to help develop the country and bring the poor out of poverty.


Rich in TT ( vs Guyana ) cannot enjoy the fruits of their toil. There are limited places to go and many envy them. So they do not live a peaceful life. Falling oil prices will not affect the rich or upper middle class because they can take care of themselves. However who will be affected are the middle class to poverty level.
Look around and you will see signs in the spending pattern this Christmas.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby toyolink » December 22nd, 2014, 2:46 pm

The most recent infor. based on position taken by Saudi's seems to support position that this is a price war designed to drive inefficient producers out of the market.
...The Saudi's will not cut back production.
Price gains at end of last week have disappeared.
Prices still $55-$60 and winter started this week-end in USA.
The last time this kind of battle took place which was pre Chazev and the USA actually could have leaned on Venezuela as a strategic partner.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby pugboy » December 22nd, 2014, 3:10 pm

them arabs hoping that many of the heavily debted shale producers default and bust on their loans

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 22nd, 2014, 3:41 pm

^^ Regardless the lower oil price will affect TT and its lower income class.

We have Gov't programs that will have to be cut and falling oil prices will
bring bad news for many. Maybe an increase in taxes to re-distribute the wealth.

The Saudi do not care. It their Oil Game. TT is small potatoes.

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Postby zoom rader » December 22nd, 2014, 4:05 pm

orangefox wrote:^^ Regardless the lower oil price will affect TT and its lower income class.

We have Gov't programs that will have to be cut and falling oil prices will
bring bad news for many. Maybe an increase in taxes to re-distribute the wealth.

The Saudi do not care. It their Oil Game. TT is small potatoes.


For the last time Trini is not an oil based economy. Oil prices have little effect on trini, but Natural Gas does. Trini can and have survived on fallen oil prices in the mid 80s and early 90s. This is nothing new to Trini.
Trini lower classes regardless of high or low oil prices are always affected. They choose to live that life and have not leant from the past.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby orangefox » December 22nd, 2014, 4:17 pm

^^ for last time ZR stop talking shat tine ..

Lower classes will be affected due to budget cuts activated by falling oil prices.

Nobody "choose" to live a life of poverty. CEPEP , maybe GATE, etc. will be affected.

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Re: oil prices falling

Postby SmokeyGTi » December 22nd, 2014, 4:34 pm

toyolink wrote:The most recent infor. based on position taken by Saudi's seems to support position that this is a price war designed to drive inefficient producers out of the market.
...The Saudi's will not cut back production.
Price gains at end of last week have disappeared.
Prices still $55-$60 and winter started this week-end in USA.
The last time this kind of battle took place which was pre Chazev and the USA actually could have leaned on Venezuela as a strategic partner.



add in the fact that the break even cost of producing shale oil per barrel is dropping, making it competitive, ...good news for the US, bad for us.

then you have ISIS controlling a few oil fields and selling at low prices

The Saudis say they have enough cash reserves to withstand long term drop in oil prices (something like 20 years of reserves).. they are not influencing the price because of a possible backlash by the west.

things not looking good. not good at all...

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