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rfari wrote:Just to a friend that apparently has insider information on the SOE. The PM has a spiritual advisor and she was warned that there would be a great uprising and overthrow of the PP government. That's why the PM called the SOE. Dunno what/who was the nature of the threat though.
rfari wrote:Just to a friend that apparently has insider information on the SOE. The PM has a spiritual advisor and she was warned that there would be a great uprising and overthrow of the PP government. That's why the PM called the SOE. Dunno what/who was the nature of the threat though.
tell me you were trying to be funny nahpioneer wrote:Didn't the previous PM tell people to tighten their belt?...what have they been doing?...not planning for a rainy day?
Spendin money behind frivolous sh1t?...if you workin KFC or wipin table in ah bar...you honestly can finance a blackberry or iphone?...yuh like bling?...well take wood an hush
What if trinidad was hit by a hurricane or another coup?...people would cry and blame it on someone else?
It's called life, it's uncertain and in any business nothing is certain. Wipe allyuh snotty nose and move on.
MonsterPower wrote:u know i was listeing to the radio .. boom radio nah .. and de idiot dj was saying that waitresses and pple workiig in bars are earning less because of the curfew. now is it that the places dont open early enough or should they change their hours of operation .. now if i am a customer and i know that the curfew starts at 9 wont i go to dinner at 5 or 6 to be home by 9 .. while i agree that they should extend it till 11 -5am most pple are in bed by then .. only pple out are the clubbers and illegal drag racers . many times i have beeen up to get to work at 4am and passed suspecious characters.
who exactly are losing out in this soe... pple are only bawling buisnessmen but cant say exactly who .. what if the govt successfully gets crime down i am sure the regular citezen who is in bed by 8 or 9 will consider going out an hr or two later ... wont these same buisnesmen stand to make more than the way it was b4 ?
AllTrac wrote:rfari wrote:Just to a friend that apparently has insider information on the SOE. The PM has a spiritual advisor and she was warned that there would be a great uprising and overthrow of the PP government. That's why the PM called the SOE. Dunno what/who was the nature of the threat though.
Stephon. wrote:spiritual adviser
rfari wrote:AllTrac wrote:rfari wrote:Just to a friend that apparently has insider information on the SOE. The PM has a spiritual advisor and she was warned that there would be a great uprising and overthrow of the PP government. That's why the PM called the SOE. Dunno what/who was the nature of the threat though.
Wasn't my intention to tell a joke. That's what I heard. Reason for it posted here and not the SOE ched. It makes the most sense to me so far.
pioneer wrote:Anyone else notice there are much less almera, b12-14 on the road?
Also much less guntas in general.
rfari wrote:i doh know much about the drug trade and thing but is 21mil in cocaine enuff for drug lords to beatup over? unless..... unless it was some colombian named hector that owned the cocaine.
suffocate69 wrote:What rowley said (if he really did) is true.
The question you guys have to ask is, who are the big fish liaising with each cartel.
PS it aint know 28 year old from el do....
Hint *pharmacy from hell*
Rowley questions Colombian link in emergency
Published: Wed, 2011-09-07 00:21
Richard Lord
Bloodshed between Colombians and T&T nationals on the streets of Port-of-Spain was averted following the imposition of a state of emergency in T&T last month. Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley said unnamed Government Ministers told him that following last Sunday’s approval of a Government motion in Parliament to extend the state of emergency by three months.
Rowley said the Government had been under pressure from the Opposition, which had been asking repeatedly for the real reason for the declaration of a state of emergency. Rowley said the general crime situation in T&T was not the real reason for the state of emergency which effectively suspended citizens’ human rights. He said he was told T&T was likely to face a national security threat following the “interception” of more than $20 million worth of cocaine in two suitcases at the Piarco International Airport last month.
Rowley said the Government Minister said privately that “a Colombian drug gang was upset that a Trinidad and Tobago gang had allowed the police to intercept the drugs, which was to be subsequently shipped from T&T to another destination.”
He said the Opposition did not believe “that cock-and-bull story, which was intended to mute the Opposition in its demands for real reasons for the state of emergency.” Rowley said he was told that “the Colombian gang was supposed to come to Port-of-Spain to deal with the T&T gang and that there would have been bloodshed on the nation’s streets.”
Rowley said if that claim was true then the Government would have suspended the rights of all citizens of T&T in the interest of protecting a few members of an alleged drug gang in T&T.
He said he was certain that was not the real reason for the imposition and three-month extension of a state of emergency in T&T. Rowley insisted: “The Government must tell us the real reasons for the declaration of a state of emergency in T&T. The population demands the answer to that question.”
Colombian drug gang bloodbath 'averted'
PNM leader: Govt members whispered cock-and-bull story
By Ria Taitt Political Editor
Story Created: Sep 6, 2011 at 11:54 PM ECT
Story Updated: Sep 6, 2011 at 11:54 PM ECT
Government spokesmen have told the Opposition PNM that the state of emergency was called because a Colombian drug gang wanted to kill members of a Trinidad and Tobago drug gang, following the $22 million drug bust at Piarco.
So stated Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley yesterday.
"When the debate was over and we were dispersing in the crowd and talking amongst our parliamentarian colleagues, government spokespersons came to the Opposition, whispering in our ears as good friends well-met, 'we can't tell the country but we could tell you that the real reason is this: that the cocaine that they pick up in the two suitcases in Piarco, belonged to a Colombian drug gang and Trinidad drug gang was supposed to guard it in Trinidad for it to be shipped out, and that (Trinidad) gang allowed the Government (the law enforcement authorities) to intercept it. So the Colombian gang was going to kill the Trinidad gang and that is what the Government moved to avert. And that is what Sandy was alluding to, when he said that blood would flow," Rowley said.
But the Opposition Leader said the PNM does not believe this latest story.
He said the Opposition immediately recognised this story "for what it was—yet another attempt by the Government to find a justification for what they had done".
"Notwithstanding their brave danger, and their PR exercises, the Government is still trying to find an acceptable reason for the State of Emergency ... after refusing to tell us on the Parliament floor."
Charging that it was an attempt to mute the Opposition and prevent it for asking more questions, Rowley said by "trying to tell us this cock-and-bull story about Colombians and suitcases and blood would flow, we saw it as yet another attempt at justification and to prevent the Opposition from ploughing away at the question of what was the specific development that caused a State of Emergency to be declared in the 15th month of their term. So we don't believe it."
He said if there was any truth in the story the Government would have at least identified the gang or some part of the gang involved and the Government would have been in a position to tell the country who they picked up in connection with this so-called development. "We have heard no such thing ... If there was any truth in that story then the Government needs to tell the country that (openly). Don't just tell the Opposition quietly in our ears. There are those who are saying that I should not have told the country that because it is a secret. We don't want any secret from the Government on this matter," Rowley said.
He said the way the explanation evolved in the last two weeks, clearly this final story is not believable. He said Government first announced the State of Emergency as the option to treating with the crime situation, particularly as it relates to gangs and drugs. Then it came up with the story that a national crisis had been averted.
He said Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said it was a classified matter which involved foreign countries and would have had foreign implication. The PNM leader said however the statement did not square with remarks made by the Prime Minister last Wednesday when she said the State of Emergency was called to deal with the crime situation generally and there was no specific event which triggered it.
Then, Rowley said, Minister of National Security John Sandy said last Friday that a major crisis was averted which would have threatened national security and which would have led to such a blood bath that it would have made 1990 look at a Christmas party.
Rowley noted that 1990 saw the bombing of Police Headquarters, the killing of Police, the storming of Parliament, shooting of parliamentarians, the killing of one MP, and the taking of parliamentarians and Prime Minister hostage, shutting down the country and looting the city of Port of Spain. Hundreds of millions of dollars were lost in 1990. Yet, Rowley said, Sandy said this particular crisis would have been worse than that.
Rowley said he wanted to hear whether the Government would stand by this story and from Sandy's reaction yesterday (that he did not want to comment on it at this time), obviously they intend to stand by it. Rowley said Government has made a habit of not coming clean with the population—whether it be about the pension at 60 years, $2 million prize for a number of Carnival stakeholders, about Reshmi Ramnarine or the OPVs.
National Security Minister Brigadier John Sandy yesterday declined comment on Rowley's statement.
When asked about Dr Rowley's claim at the National Security State of Emergency news briefing, Sandy said, "I did not hear the Opposition Leader, I don't know who told him that and I would rather not comment on that at this time."
InDeForest wrote:I put it to you all that 21mil is not even near 'big fish' category
InDeForest wrote:I put it to you all that 21mil is not even near 'big fish' category
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