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elec2020 wrote:^ so your proposal is to change decades of consumption patterns overnight? Also, what about paying back loans? Cause i doubt the government borrowed in TT dollars. Every nation in the world trades with other nations. To conduct this trade u need forex. Nothing is going to change that. Therefore, the government needs to find ways to bolster how much forex tnt generates.
There are no economies which are completely closed. Brazil imports the least amount of goods in the world when measured as a portion of the gross domestic product (GDP) and is the most closed economy in the world.
gastly369 wrote:As we open trini going jackass de scene and we would be back to square one in no time... 100% guarantee it
Dummy we are not a developing country. Trinidad was taken off that list for sometime nowelec2020 wrote:your points are noted. In particular our consumption patterns are unsustainable. Regardless, TT is not a super power. We are a low developing country. More can be done to reduce the need for forex like bolstering agriculture, re-establishing manufacturing segments (for example I heard T&T used to manufacture cars and tvs in the past) and maybe consider increasing taxes on forex purchases (however, to balance that off you need to improve supervision of retailers). Still, you need forex to grow and develop as well as to pay foreign debts so you still need to have a strong generator of forex. There is no way to get around that
elec2020 wrote:your points are noted. In particular our consumption patterns are unsustainable. Regardless, TT is not a super power. We are a low developing country. More can be done to reduce the need for forex like bolstering agriculture, re-establishing manufacturing segments (for example I heard T&T used to manufacture cars and tvs in the past) and maybe consider increasing taxes on forex purchases (however, to balance that off you need to improve supervision of retailers). Still, you need forex to grow and develop as well as to pay foreign debts so you still need to have a strong generator of forex. There is no way to get around that
zoom rader wrote:Dummy we are not a developing country. Trinidad was taken off that list for sometime nowelec2020 wrote:your points are noted. In particular our consumption patterns are unsustainable. Regardless, TT is not a super power. We are a low developing country. More can be done to reduce the need for forex like bolstering agriculture, re-establishing manufacturing segments (for example I heard T&T used to manufacture cars and tvs in the past) and maybe consider increasing taxes on forex purchases (however, to balance that off you need to improve supervision of retailers). Still, you need forex to grow and develop as well as to pay foreign debts so you still need to have a strong generator of forex. There is no way to get around that
Trinidad and Tobago is a high income developing country with a GDP per capita of over US$15,500.
We have stupid laws that forbid anyone from manufacturing vehicles .Redress10 wrote:elec2020 wrote:your points are noted. In particular our consumption patterns are unsustainable. Regardless, TT is not a super power. We are a low developing country. More can be done to reduce the need for forex like bolstering agriculture, re-establishing manufacturing segments (for example I heard T&T used to manufacture cars and tvs in the past) and maybe consider increasing taxes on forex purchases (however, to balance that off you need to improve supervision of retailers). Still, you need forex to grow and develop as well as to pay foreign debts so you still need to have a strong generator of forex. There is no way to get around that
If we are a "low developing" country then don't you think we should be consuming low developing type of products? Why all the need for fancy cereals and fancy foods on the shelves that are "imported"? Does the average trini realise that every foreign good consumed literally pays for the livelihoods of workers in the countries where the goods are imported from? The thing about food imports is that it either spoils and is discarded or is consumed and ends up in the sewer system. You are literally flushing your forex down the drain.
Our forex should be spent on things such as manufacturing equipment and agricultural inputs that allow us to improve our production capabilites. Retailers shouldn't be allowed to import any and everything they want just to compete in the market. Why do we need 50 brands of cereal when the majority of them are just refined sugars. Then we also need to find forex to import the medication to treat the childhood diabetes that it causes. We really are an insane set of people.
We never used to "manufacture" cars but I believe we used to assemble. Again, is a car purchase necessary? Why is it that western european and asian countries can provide reliable, safe and enjoyable public transportation saving their citizens and the country billions in vehicle associated costs and we are still purchasing cars en masse. Imagine how much forex could be saved if car purchases in TT were decreased by 1/3 and the money reinvested in having a world class public transport system.
We definitely need to supervise retailers if we begin capping foreign purchases etc. Remember these business people simply import and add mark up in order to make money in TT. There's no innovation taking place. Imagine if movie towne had its own brand of popcorn/candy/soft drink etc that was made from local inputs and sold there for instance. Instead everything there from the movie to the food is imported. They only provide seating and movie.
I am not saying forex isn't needed. All I am saying is you need to start increasing local production/consumption as much possible. Our forex is still needed to develop and pay our loans as you say. But do we really need to use forex buying lettuce and tomatoes though. I have a serious problem seeing forex being used in that way.
Not according to the USA, they removed Trinidad from that list. It was in the news sometime ago I can't remember when.elec2020 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Dummy we are not a developing country. Trinidad was taken off that list for sometime nowelec2020 wrote:your points are noted. In particular our consumption patterns are unsustainable. Regardless, TT is not a super power. We are a low developing country. More can be done to reduce the need for forex like bolstering agriculture, re-establishing manufacturing segments (for example I heard T&T used to manufacture cars and tvs in the past) and maybe consider increasing taxes on forex purchases (however, to balance that off you need to improve supervision of retailers). Still, you need forex to grow and develop as well as to pay foreign debts so you still need to have a strong generator of forex. There is no way to get around that
In the April 2021 WEO (by the IMF) Trinidad and Tobago falls into the Emerging Market and Developing Country List.
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO ... -economies
Also, according to the WTO:Trinidad and Tobago is a high income developing country with a GDP per capita of over US$15,500.
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/tp ... _sum_e.pdf
elec2020 wrote:I agree with your points inno. What you raised must be attended too soon as we will be heading into trouble. Things cannot stay the same. But alas, as is evident, we just hoping on oil and gas to bail us out again.
wtf wrote:Reopen the economy in 2022 is what they talking about.
Dohplaydat wrote:wtf wrote:Reopen the economy in 2022 is what they talking about.
2021 is more of waste than 2020.
We honestly can't return to any normalcy until mid 2022
redmanjp wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:wtf wrote:Reopen the economy in 2022 is what they talking about.
2021 is more of waste than 2020.
We honestly can't return to any normalcy until mid 2022
All depends on how much vaccine Biden and dem send for us in the next 4 months and also if we get it launching a war time effort involving all private sector and even army medics getting shots into arms. No queue jumping as well.
The US has shown we doh necessarily need full herd immunity to open back but just reduce hospitalizations and deaths by prioritizing high risk groups.
Mmoney607 wrote:How is this "vaccinate and operate" going to work? Is the govt going to allow businesses in certain sectors to reopen if a certain percentage of the employees are vaccinated? Would businesses be given a certificate stating that the met the vaccination requirements to be reopened?
Or would it be the usual trend of a big political gimmick, such as what happened in the divali Nagar today, and then the entire manufacturing sector can reopen?
j.o.e wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:How is this "vaccinate and operate" going to work? Is the govt going to allow businesses in certain sectors to reopen if a certain percentage of the employees are vaccinated? Would businesses be given a certificate stating that the met the vaccination requirements to be reopened?
Or would it be the usual trend of a big political gimmick, such as what happened in the divali Nagar today, and then the entire manufacturing sector can reopen?
It’s not specifically about allowing certain businesses to open once vaccinated. It’s about getting more people vaccinated overall with the added incentive that the businesses in question will have a chance to minimize any spread among their workers when we do slowly open up. Makes no sense to open back and businesses shutting down constantly because of outbreaks among staff.
Mmoney607 wrote:j.o.e wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:How is this "vaccinate and operate" going to work? Is the govt going to allow businesses in certain sectors to reopen if a certain percentage of the employees are vaccinated? Would businesses be given a certificate stating that the met the vaccination requirements to be reopened?
Or would it be the usual trend of a big political gimmick, such as what happened in the divali Nagar today, and then the entire manufacturing sector can reopen?
It’s not specifically about allowing certain businesses to open once vaccinated. It’s about getting more people vaccinated overall with the added incentive that the businesses in question will have a chance to minimize any spread among their workers when we do slowly open up. Makes no sense to open back and businesses shutting down constantly because of outbreaks among staff.
So it's an overall percentage of the population we need vaccinated for things to open back? If so then we looking at November for a reopening?
Rovin wrote:u dont even have read past d headline to know this
everybody in business might feel shame to say sales have badly dropped since d recent fuel rise
ppl have to dig deeper to buy d same everything they did b4 & they jest dont have extra $ to spend on much else after buying food & paying bills
it hard out here but many wont admit it cause of pride or simply dont want others to know they seeing hard times ...
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