1% Attacks stupid Holidays

[Ben_spanna]

I'm always curious about persons who consistently speak negatively about T&T yet not leaving for anything

Because not everyone can just pick up and leave... some people do not have Dual citizenship or were born abroad.

[Blaze d Chalice]

When I was working for the public sector, it would annoy me very much as well, having holidays in the middle of the week, because when you already in a gear from Monday and then Wednesday and Friday is holiday, people staying home from Tuesday to next Tuesday. So they would only work 1 DAY for the week. And that is not even Carnival.

It doesn't affect me personally anymore because different job now. Work time is flexible for me as long as the job gets done.
I usually like working on holidays because most road pests already leave early to go beach or wherever.
Sufferers lining the road or liming by the curb, usually sleep in late so you don't encounter them.
And no sufferers in work gossiping and buzzing like flies, so overall it is a more productive experience for me at least.

If some people find is too much holidays, and some find it is mandatory, how about we meet each other halfway and agree that if the holiday falls on a weekday, they celebrate it on a Saturday/Sunday , and if there are 2 holidays, Saturday and Sunday.
That should quiet everyone right?
Or is it not about the 'cultural aspect' and more about the extra time off from work?

I'm always curious about persons who consistently speak negatively about T&T yet not leaving for anything

Because not everyone can just pick up and leave... some people do not have Dual citizenship or were born abroad.

Also some people are so traumatised after their Trinidad experience, they think they will be worse off out there.
"If people looking like me treating me like this in my own home, wha go happen out dere in dem place?"
Stockholm syndrome kinda thing.

[teems1]

Also some people are so traumatised after their Trinidad experience, they think they will be worse off out there.
"If people looking like me treating me like this in my own home, wha go happen out dere in dem place?"
Stockholm syndrome kinda thing.

At least you know how you stand in the US. The racism is in your face and everyone involved knows what to expect.

When compared to Trinidad where we're rife with hypocrisy.

In each other's company or earshot it's "All of we is one people", but behind closed doors it's "Yuh cyar trust dem. Yuh cyar betray yuh race/religion etc."

Both sides are guilty of this.

[MaxPower]

Steups,

Allyuh eh fed up complain? Allyuh even deserve to be emancipated? But any excuse NOT to work ent? What about 24/7 companies that provide important services?

But hey, come out to work and screw pan, stay home, drop down and die....who cares?!

Thanks to Venezuelans, Chinese, other hard working Trinis who are willing to work. Allyuh ass too happy. Its to fire allyuh lazy mc.

You, sir, are an idiot.

And you 88reek, have to get to productive.

Did you ever consider for one nanosecond, little lord tampon brain, that in order for emancipation to be an option, that one person must be bound to another whether or not they wish to be bound to that person? In this instance, the persons bound were African slaves (that didn't want to be slaves) & the ones doing the binding were slave owners that wanted cheap labor (in accordance with what was legally permitted at the point in time).
So basically what you, (you being the stupid, illiterate, self-righteous, Venezuelan anus eating dullard with a ruined rectum that you are), are saying is that persons of African heritage actually deserved to be enslaved, and that that the emancipation of slaves should have perhaps been optional and left to the slave owners to decide which slaves deserved it (which they never would, particularly if a slave was especially "productive" as you mindlessly said, since it would not benefit the slave owner to free his most "productive" sources of free labor), and that the concept of emancipation as well as the abolition of slavery was wrong.

In my humble opinion, for a braying jackass such as yourself to even suggest that ANY people may not "deserve to be emancipated" is nothing more than the usual idiotic drivel you customarily spout. If you truly believe so, there is actually a very easy way to test your ideology, & here's how.
I will subjugate you & enslave you, beat the snot out of you, feed you scraps, leave you in rags in a hovel, force you to work, never pay you, mutilate you, and subject you to each, every and all the rigors of slavery that those of African descent had to endure prior to emancipation (even up to and including buck breaking, I know that is the one part of the experience you go like, but I eh doing it myself so don't get yuh hopes up), & it will be entirely up to me to decide whether or not I release you from servitude, and you are not allowed to ask to be freed, or to try to escape. Let us see if your significant & constant ability to be "productive" motivates me to emancipate you, and if I find you "deserve" freedom.
Now, I know you wouldn't volunteer for this, if only because even though you're an idiot, I don't believe that you that devoid of any wish to preserve yourself & whatever minuscule shred of dignity you might think you have. But if you truly believe as you do, it's the best way to test the merits of your statement that so far only manage to come across resembling the rantings of a deranged lunatic that is off his meds.

Knowing this, I thusly presented my synopsis of you based on your post, and I believe said conclusion to be extremely accurate & I am yet to see any evidence presented by you that might sway my opinion of you. So it is with no reservation that I reiterate.

You, sir, are an idiot.





Now, you can feel free to resume eating Venezuelan anuses, but please, do so elsewhere. Intelligent grownups are having a discussion here, & nobody likes or wants you or your idiotic opinions.

Wow 88reek...im sorry but i didnt get a chance to read it totally, maybe later.....but try and control your emotions a tad.

I the effort in this petty rant can also be applied to your contribution to society.

But when are u going to stop crying over slavery? Are you still traumatized? Stop using slavery as an EXCUSE to feel you can do as you please and that we owe you something.

[MaxPower]

Trinidads general labour workforce does NOT deserve so many public holidays...… our labor is already far to worthless, lazy and full of sh1t excuses to give them any more holidays.
Employers in this country face serious challenges with Human Resources and one of their biggest hurdles is absenteeism, people in this place feel as if their personal time and their chours must be done during work hours and expect employers to excuse them.
Show your a55 to work, put in your hours of work and then look after the rest of your life after. … dont burden everyone else with your fr1gg1ing problems.

Well exccuuuseee me!

Maybe you are lazy, and feel everyone else lazy like you. Your statement isn't just stupid, its baseless. Companies talk about mental health and corporate responsibility but never take responsibility for having policies which are anti worker.

I would go even further and say, the amount of times companies and employers dodge and fudge in taxes, they have no right to complain.

Who are you to make that determination that there are too many holidays? How about companies making too much profit? How about companies pay workers too little.

Come again failed abortion.

Blaze is correct and he is making his statement based on facts.

But ur a Trini, and you get offended when other Trinis tell allyuh as it is. It have hard working Trinis and LAZY AF Trinis...and they both will never see eye to eye.

Friends please.....stop the constant excuses, complaining and sympathy seeking.

[88sins]

Wow 88reek...im sorry but i didnt get a chance to read it totally, maybe later.....but try and control your emotions a tad.

I the effort in this petty rant can also be applied to your contribution to society.

But when are u going to stop crying over slavery? Are you still traumatized? Stop using slavery as an EXCUSE to feel you can do as you please and that we owe you something.

MaxCunny, show me where in any post of mine I personally referred to slavery being the causative factor or valid reason/excuse for anyone's current socio-economic negative situation. Or show us where I posted that today anyone is or was owed anything by anyone because of slavery.

your posts so far continue to provide evidence that you have the exact same IQ as the northern end of a southbound donkey.

[Redman]

As a business owner I used to ask people to volunteer for work on holidays-at the agreed rate,on the premise that if I dont have enough to fill what I needed we would close.

I always was maxed out with volunteers.

EVERYBODY worked-regardless of race,color religion.... but people also took the days that they wanted to take.

Kambon should allow people to decide how THEY want to mark the holiday.

[MaxPower]

Wow 88reek...im sorry but i didnt get a chance to read it totally, maybe later.....but try and control your emotions a tad.

I the effort in this petty rant can also be applied to your contribution to society.

But when are u going to stop crying over slavery? Are you still traumatized? Stop using slavery as an EXCUSE to feel you can do as you please and that we owe you something.

MaxCunny, show me where in any post of mine I personally referred to slavery being the causative factor or valid reason/excuse for anyone's current socio-economic negative situation. Or show us where I posted that today anyone is or was owed anything by anyone because of slavery.

your posts so far continue to provide evidence that you have the exact same IQ as the northern end of a southbound donkey.

Ummmm YOU still talking?

Impress me na...lets talk productivity.

[88sins]

Ummmm YOU still talking?

Impress me na...lets talk productivity.

ok
the most productive thing you can do today is stfu
run with that

[De Dragon]

I'm always curious about persons who consistently speak negatively about T&T yet not leaving for anything

Because tunts like Max Cax wouldn't last a nanosecond anywhere else in the world. Knowing this, the little beyotch whines and complains constantly about "you people", "allyuh trinis" and such. Simple

[MaxPower]

I'm always curious about persons who consistently speak negatively about T&T yet not leaving for anything

Because tunts like Max Cax wouldn't last a nanosecond anywhere else in the world. Knowing this, the little beyotch whines and complains constantly about "you people", "allyuh trinis" and such. Simple

There you have it De Fagon the Sufferer......”allyuh” Trinis is the problem....

Stop your desperation for respect and acceptance from WE, the hard working and efficient public of T&T.

Stop making excuses for “allyuh” incompetent and disgusting work habits.

Stop toting when WE choose not to tolerate “allyuh” STINK Trini mentality.

Why leave Trinidad? This is OUR home and WE make the best of it, no matter where in the world WE are.

Dont hate because WE stand against “allyuh” Trini and say exactly what WE think about “allyuh”.

So When “allyuh” come with the laziness, incompetence, complacency, rudeness etc......WE will judge, scorn and bash allyuh accordingly.

Work harder and feed your hungry family....u yapping too much.

[De Dragon]

I'm always curious about persons who consistently speak negatively about T&T yet not leaving for anything

Because tunts like Max Cax wouldn't last a nanosecond anywhere else in the world. Knowing this, the little beyotch whines and complains constantly about "you people", "allyuh trinis" and such. Simple

There you have it De Fagon the Sufferer......”allyuh” Trinis is the problem....

Stop your desperation for respect and acceptance from WE, the hard working and efficient public of T&T.

Stop making excuses for “allyuh” incompetent and disgusting work habits.

Stop toting when WE choose not to tolerate “allyuh” STINK Trini mentality.

Why leave Trinidad? This is OUR home and WE make the best of it, no matter where in the world WE are.

Dont hate because WE stand against “allyuh” Trini and say exactly what WE think about “allyuh”.

So When “allyuh” come with the laziness, incompetence, complacency, rudeness etc......WE will judge, scorn and bash allyuh accordingly.

Work harder and feed your hungry family....u yapping too much.

The self loathing and superiority complex is strong in this kant, which is odd because he's a 30-something year old limp dicked mama's boy, who loves to project his pathetic life onto other people. Hence you have the constant insecurity and whining about who's having sex (he cannot), who's suffering (he is, badly), who unproductive (he's unemployed).

[Ben_spanna]

There are both sides of this coin,
I have worked with Many employers that have the same nightmare stories of absenteeism and late coming and people who abuse the system. I have seen employees that left their jobs claiming abuse and gone out on their own only to find out that they are now the victims of the same said problematic employee Attitudes and now understand what they themselves were doing.
A majority of YOUNG Trinidad employees are Extremely lazy and have terrible attitudes towards work and what constitutes to a proper efficient days work.
A HUGE part of our problem and the world is cell phones, however soon that will not be a problem for where I am as we are installing blockers so no more issues with that.

[nemisis]

^^^ Sad yes. It have some girls working in a clothes store in the mall by me and they have a no cell phone during work hours rule. 5 employess, 3 Seats. So you have to sit on rotation and stare blankly out of the store front until someone comes in. If your first client enters at 12.05pm you are expected to stand and lookout the windows glass for the previous 3 hours with no entertainment other than pressplay juke box. I feel sorry for them

[Ben_spanna]

^^^ Sad yes. It have some girls working in a clothes store in the mall by me and they have a no cell phone during work hours rule. 5 employess, 3 Seats. So you have to sit on rotation and stare blankly out of the store front until someone comes in. If your first client enters at 12.05pm you are expected to stand and lookout the windows glass for the previous 3 hours with no entertainment other than pressplay juke box. I feel sorry for them

Nemisis,

I hear you and understand you, in certain jobs it may be "functional" or allowable for someone to use their phones, however in jobs where you are on a production run and operating machinery its inexcusable and darn right dangerous, when you work together with someone and you produce as a team with a combined effort its dangerous to use.
When the employee is there at a counter job and your job is to Immediately attend to customers(cough, cough Any government office) then you should not be allowed on your phone- your job there is to serve the customer as your foremost function, youre not being paid to sit there on your phone and when someone comes in they are supposed to wait for you to finish what youre doing, get off your damn phone and work.

[vaiostation]

Perhaps it maybe time to look at raising the minimum wage to an acceptable level or maybe look at paying people a living wage.

When wages are good this increases the spending power of the middle class and the general prosperity of the country by stabilizing the economy and stimulating its growth. A living wage allows, more working people to afford houses, better food, clothing, cars and other consumer goods. Increasing demand for these things creates more jobs and even more economic growth.

Workers who are paid well and enjoy job security can afford to pay taxes to support the growth of public services like schools, roads, clean water, police services, electricity and health care.

[Dizzy28]

Perhaps it maybe time to look at raising the minimum wage to an acceptable level or maybe look at paying people a living wage.

When wages are good this increases the spending power of the middle class and the general prosperity of the country by stabilizing the economy and stimulating its growth. A living wage allows, more working people to afford houses, better food, clothing, cars and other consumer goods. Increasing demand for these things creates more jobs and even more economic growth.

Workers who are paid well and enjoy job security can afford to pay taxes to support the growth of public services like schools, roads, clean water, police services, electricity and health care.

With an allowance of $72,000 annually you propose a minimum wage in excess of $6,000 monthly??

[vaiostation]

^^^A minimum wage where more people can reach closer to $6000-$5000 per month.
Many people hardly make over $3000 per month.

[Slartibartfast]

There are both sides of this coin,
I have worked with Many employers that have the same nightmare stories of absenteeism and late coming and people who abuse the system. I have seen employees that left their jobs claiming abuse and gone out on their own only to find out that they are now the victims of the same said problematic employee Attitudes and now understand what they themselves were doing.
A majority of YOUNG Trinidad employees are Extremely lazy and have terrible attitudes towards work and what constitutes to a proper efficient days work.
A HUGE part of our problem and the world is cell phones, however soon that will not be a problem for where I am as we are installing blockers so no more issues with that.

Some people believe that laziness may be attributed more to the environment that to the individual. I'm not so sure as I have seen both ends of the spectrum.

These "young" people you talk about. Are they doing a job that engages their mind and provides opportunity for professional and personal growth? Does their job provide promotions, wage increases (more than inflation), performance bonuses or other incentives? Will their wage allow them to meet basic needs like a mortgage and car payment (or will it allow them to meet those needs within the next 5 years? Does their position require them to make use of their qualifications? How are they treated by their manager?

I've seen young people that won't come off their phone to work and I've seen old people that will refuse to touch a computer but will only old talk and talk about all the work that other people did/ will do (especially old people in public service jobs and some petrotrin workers that got laid off). I've also seen young people hold down a full time job while starting a business on the side and old people that could run laps around any young person so I don't generally agree with blanket statements.

[88sins]

Perhaps it maybe time to look at raising the minimum wage to an acceptable level or maybe look at paying people a living wage.

When wages are good this increases the spending power of the middle class and the general prosperity of the country by stabilizing the economy and stimulating its growth. A living wage allows, more working people to afford houses, better food, clothing, cars and other consumer goods. Increasing demand for these things creates more jobs and even more economic growth.

Workers who are paid well and enjoy job security can afford to pay taxes to support the growth of public services like schools, roads, clean water, police services, electricity and health care.

Nice idea, but it won't work here for the simplest reason.
In T&T, so called 'businessmen' & other sellers WILL increase the selling prices on goods/services substantially in order to capitalize on the perceived potential increase in revenue due to everyone making more money, citing their increased labor cost as the excuse. Never admitting it's because they want more profits. Cost of living will skyrocket, and we back to square one where we are right now. Yes, some of their costs will go up. But here the trend over the decades has been that if the business's cost go up $0.10/unit, item selling prices go up by anywhere from $0.50-$2.00 per unit.
What is actually needed is done is regulation of the various industries in the country and setting and maintaining pricing standards & practices to discourage practices like price gouging, profiteering, etc. As rough example I'm sure we all can relate to...
SupermarketQ sells itemA that has only one supplier in the country for $5.00, and right next door, SupermarketV sells the exact same itemA for $7.00, that's a 40% upward difference, with no real justification other than they decided to. Working on this kinda thing where anyone can sell anything for any price they want, particularly in relation to food items, would go a long way towards our development as a nation, and it would help to increase the residual disposable income available in lower income households.

With an allowance of $72,000 annually you propose a minimum wage in excess of $6,000 monthly??

Well, as it stands now, T&'s actual minimum wage works out to roughly $600/week or $2400/month or $28800/year. An annual tax allowance of $72K means nothing to if you if you not even making half of the allowance amount annually. The allowance only benefits you when you reach the threshold to pay taxes.
If allyuh really knew how many ppl it have working in this country in the private sector and the kind of small change they take home as a salary some of allyuh might trip off.

[nemisis]

The ONLY suffers in this country are those who were taught to be honest and law abiding

[Slartibartfast]

If allyuh really knew how many ppl it have working in this country in the private sector and the kind of small change they take home as a salary some of allyuh might trip off.

This is it right here. Then remember how much is spent travelling to and from work and buying food to eat (groceries or cheap food) and you would realise plenty literally just working to sustain themselves to continue working. Imagine the mental toll that takes one you. I worked for minimum wage once for a summer job and I was also a lazy worker after a few weeks of realising it didn't make sense.

Idk how to fix it but looking into regulating the industry may be a good idea. It just has the potential to make things worse given the corruption in our public offices.

[nemisis]

If allyuh really knew how many ppl it have working in this country in the private sector and the kind of small change they take home as a salary some of allyuh might trip off.

This is it right here. Then remember how much is spent travelling to and from work and buying food to eat (groceries or cheap food) and you would realise plenty literally just working to sustain themselves to continue working. Imagine the mental toll that takes one you. I worked for minimum wage once for a summer job and I was also a lazy worker after a few weeks of realising it didn't make sense.

Idk how to fix it but looking into regulating the industry may be a good idea. It just has the potential to make things worse given the corruption in our public offices.

This isn't by accident. It is better for business financially if their employees are desperate and just meeting ends. If employees had better options then to entice workers into some of these dead end jobs would not only cost more but also require management to accept responsibility for what happens in the work place!

[maj. tom]

Yes very much so. This is all planned to draw the middle- and lower- class boundary lines. Many, many people don't even realize that. That's why there are no laws pushed to protect workers, and unions only make noise when they want to play politics, but never really have the worker's real interest in mind.

[Redman]

Plenty Ivory towers in here.

Business EVERYWHERE pay as little as they can for all inputs.

Labor EVERYWHERE charges as much as possible for as little output as they can.

The reality is that simple.

Both Business and Labor are entitled to act in this manner.

No one here will tak 100 per hr when they can get 300 elsewhere.
No one here would pay 300 for something they can pay 100 for elsewhere.

People are free to go elsewhere for employment at higher rates.
And Business is obligated to manage costs.

Employees are largely getting what they are worth or mre specifically what they can get.
And employers get what they pay for.

Both parties responsible for any sheit that happens.

[Ben_spanna]

Yes very much so. This is all planned to draw the middle- and lower- class boundary lines. Many, many people don't even realize that. That's why there are no laws pushed to protect workers, and unions only make noise when they want to play politics, but never really have the worker's real interest in mind.

Thats very correct! Unions are an absolute WASTE of time, they always quick to mount a case against any company , even when the worker is the guilty party.

[Slartibartfast]

Plenty Ivory towers in here.

Business EVERYWHERE pay as little as they can for all inputs.

Labor EVERYWHERE charges as much as possible for as little output as they can.

The reality is that simple.

Both Business and Labor are entitled to act in this manner.

No one here will tak 100 per hr when they can get 300 elsewhere.
No one here would pay 300 for something they can pay 100 for elsewhere.

People are free to go elsewhere for employment at higher rates.
And Business is obligated to manage costs.

Employees are largely getting what they are worth or mre specifically what they can get.
And employers get what they pay for.

Both parties responsible for any sheit that happens.

You are just describing the essence capitalism which I don't think is inherently a bad thing unless it is left unchecked.

Imagine my friend with a master is chem eng has to take a 4k/month job because that is all she is worth in a saturated job market. By the laws of supply and demand you are correct that that is all she is worth. But the value of her work is 2 or 3 times more than it would have been for someone with the same qualifications 30 years ago because of new technology. So her work is worth 2 to 3 times what it once was so she is worth more in that sense. But where does the extra wealth generated go? Mind you the only extra "technology" that the company has now that ot didn't have back then are more powerful computers which isn't that much of an investment cost. What the company has is business relations and capital to leverage to get more work opportunities.

TL:DR Supply and demand has made people cheaper while their work is more valuable than ever. People not stupid and realise that companies out there to shaft them as much as possible. Companies complain that younger people lazy now because they don't want to dedicate their life to their work.

Most people I know need to have an outside business or second job to make ends meet. This comes with an obvious drop in work performance. Add this to the time taken continuously looking for another job after their current contract is up and the current environment no longer seems surprising.

[hydroep]

Law covers work on holidays
Clint Chan Tack

THE law governs work on public holidays. This was the view expressed yesterday by TT Chamber of Industry and Commerce CEO Gabriel Faria.

He was responding to claims from Emancipation Support Committee head Khafra Kambon that big business interests make Afro-Trinidadians work on Emancipation Day. Kambon made his claims at the opening of the Lidj Yasu Omowale Emancipation Village at the Queen's Park Savannah on Sunday.

"I believe the Industrial Relations Act covers work on public holidays, which also applies to all workers, regardless of race or religion," Faria said. He said he believed workers have the option not to work whenever they wish "once it conforms with the terms of their employment contract."

In a competitive landscape, Faria said, "Both the employer and employee must treat each other fairly and equitably."

National Trade Union Centre president Michael Annisette said as an individual, he appreciates the signficance of Emancipation Day and participates in celebrations on the day itself.

On the claims made by Kambon, Annisette said the issue is not simply one of "stores closing or opening." He did not see what value that would bring to Afro-Trinis.

Annisette said it is a fact that stores open on public holidays in TT.

He said conversation must be to educate Afro-Trinis about how to empower themselves on all levels, including financially.

Annisette added that another reality in today's world is that everyone has to work.

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/30/law-covers-work-on-holidays/

[88sins]

Law covers work on holidays
Clint Chan Tack

THE law governs work on public holidays. This was the view expressed yesterday by TT Chamber of Industry and Commerce CEO Gabriel Faria.

He was responding to claims from Emancipation Support Committee head Khafra Kambon that big business interests make Afro-Trinidadians work on Emancipation Day. Kambon made his claims at the opening of the Lidj Yasu Omowale Emancipation Village at the Queen's Park Savannah on Sunday.

"I believe the Industrial Relations Act covers work on public holidays, which also applies to all workers, regardless of race or religion," Faria said. He said he believed workers have the option not to work whenever they wish "once it conforms with the terms of their employment contract."

In a competitive landscape, Faria said, "Both the employer and employee must treat each other fairly and equitably."

National Trade Union Centre president Michael Annisette said as an individual, he appreciates the signficance of Emancipation Day and participates in celebrations on the day itself.

On the claims made by Kambon, Annisette said the issue is not simply one of "stores closing or opening." He did not see what value that would bring to Afro-Trinis.

Annisette said it is a fact that stores open on public holidays in TT.

He said conversation must be to educate Afro-Trinis about how to empower themselves on all levels, including financially.

Annisette added that another reality in today's world is that everyone has to work.

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/30/law-covers-work-on-holidays/

see that? in a ideal situation, yes that is how it should be.
but in reality many employers will inform a candidate that the job requires them to work holidays. So, the company is telling the potential employee up front, boss & company first, labor laws second. And some may see nothing wrong with that. But those same employers neglect to remember that if a person chooses to work on a holiday, the rate of pay needs to be adjusted. So you working Sunday to Sunday for $15/hr, and your employer paying you the same $15/hr for working the holiday. Iirc the rate is hourly rate x 1.5/hr for the first 4hrs of work & rate hourly rate x 2/hr for every hour after that. But many employers, especially those in private security industry, not having nuttn to do with that. & then they wonder why ppl have "no work ethic"

[Redman]

Im just describing the reality as it exists.


And with out wanting to sound harsh-if there are too many Chem Eng- she should retrain or look elsewhere for work.
Multiple people I know have done so and made it work for them.She isnt the only one with a useless degree.
A degree isnt a garantee of anything.
And no she does not HAVE to take a 4k job-she is free to find some one to pay here

Its easy to conjure up some sinister conspiracy instead of taking a hard look at how you as a person arrived where you are.

Good workers get treated better as they are an asset to the co.
Good employers get better service and performance from employees BECAUSE they treat people better.

Yes there are exceptions on both sides-but that is life.