Mr Gear challenges CoP & T. C. over Tint Pg. 5

Sumana.00 · Postby **Sumana.00** » March 24th, 2009, 11:58 am

it'd be really fun to see this play out in court

wagonrunner · Postby **wagonrunner** » March 24th, 2009, 12:03 pm

Sumana.00 wrote:it'd be really fun to see UNC's next step

ray d saint · Postby **ray d saint** » March 24th, 2009, 12:09 pm

wagonrunner wrote:
Sumana.00 wrote:it'd be really fun to see UNC's next step

^^^ohhhh gawd ohhhhh.... :lol:

Sheriff · Postby **Sheriff** » March 24th, 2009, 12:11 pm

SUPAstarr wrote:AP

We get your opinion an everythin but the man has taken on a similar situation as regards to sticker number plates an came out on top, it very much the same as the law as regards to number plates are left up to the individual officer's interpretation, an had no clear definition of what a plate shud be. Same applies here, but its the effort from him that is appreciated more than the indiviual outcome. Sayin the man will lose from the get go is jus an ignorant "i give up" attitude

X2

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 12:14 pm

AbstractPoetic wrote:What exactly is "true law"? Moreover you've decided to become the V for Vendetta in your country because YOU do not like the interpretation of said legislation? Your argument is incorrectly premised on seeing consistency. The law is obscure and as such so will be the actions of those enforcing the law. Game. Set. Match. Goodbye.

AP. Do you post here simply because you just like to impress yourself ?

How can you say what I have premised my argument on when I have not even presented my argument yet ? So take a chill pill, relax, resist the urge to respond to this message and wait for the information, digest it, research your response, check it for the idot reflex action in all of us, then, only if you have something meaningful to add then respond. If you follow that process we probably will never hear from you again.

But nevertheless, please don't hijack this post. This is not about you, its about the law and you/us.

sensiman · Postby **sensiman** » March 24th, 2009, 12:20 pm

Mr Gear wrote:
AbstractPoetic wrote:What exactly is "true law"? Moreover you've decided to become the V for Vendetta in your country because YOU do not like the interpretation of said legislation? Your argument is incorrectly premised on seeing consistency. The law is obscure and as such so will be the actions of those enforcing the law. Game. Set. Match. Goodbye.

AP. Do you post here simply because you just like to impress yourself ?

How can you say what I have premised my argument on when I have not even presented my argument yet ? So take a chill pill, relax, resist the urge to respond to this message and wait for the information, digest it, research your response, check it for the idot reflex action in all of us, then, only if you have something meaningful to add then respond. If you follow that process we probably will never hear from you again.

But nevertheless, please don't hijack this post. This is not about you, its about the law and you/us.

Somehow I don't think AP can grasp the concept. It's always about proving something.

Great job Mr Gear. Looking forward to the results.

Sumana.00 · Postby **Sumana.00** » March 24th, 2009, 12:20 pm

Mr Gear, Are u taking it to court or via letters?

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 12:24 pm

AP = Absolutely Pointless.

eekipoo · Postby **eekipoo** » March 24th, 2009, 12:33 pm

Mr Gear wrote:
AbstractPoetic wrote:What exactly is "true law"? Moreover you've decided to become the V for Vendetta in your country because YOU do not like the interpretation of said legislation? Your argument is incorrectly premised on seeing consistency. The law is obscure and as such so will be the actions of those enforcing the law. Game. Set. Match. Goodbye.

AP. Do you post here simply because you just like to impress yourself ?

How can you say what I have premised my argument on when I have not even presented my argument yet ? So take a chill pill, relax, resist the urge to respond to this message and wait for the information, digest it, research your response, check it for the idot reflex action in all of us, then, only if you have something meaningful to add then respond. If you follow that process we probably will never hear from you again.

But nevertheless, please don't hijack this post. This is not about you, its about the law and you/us.

JoKeR1980 · Postby **JoKeR1980** » March 24th, 2009, 12:33 pm

looking fwd to the results...good luck Mr. Gear! we appreciate your efforts

AbstractPoetic · Postby **AbstractPoetic** » March 24th, 2009, 12:34 pm

Mr. Gear wrote:AP. Do you post here simply because you just like to impress yourself ?

Far from it. It's called being a devil's advocate.

Mr. Gear wrote:How can you say what I have premised my argument on when I have not even presented my argument yet ?

Read your below words, slowly:

Mr Gear wrote:Yes folks, your not so friendly citizen's advocate is set to throw down against the Commissioner of Police and the Transport Commissioner this Thursday over their misinterpretation of the laws governing tint.

That's your stance sir. Misinterpretation of the laws. Misinterpretation of how the law should be treated and applied.

And on what basis?

Mr. Gear wrote:The majority of Private Motor Vehicles are immune from the so called tint laws...stay tuned.

Obscured laws being applied to most but not all.

Mr. Gear wrote:So take a chill pill, relax, resist the urge to respond to this message and wait for the information, digest it, research your response, check it for the idot reflex action in all of us, then, only if you have something meaningful to add then respond. If you follow that process we probably will never hear from you again.

Learn to follow your own advice.

FACT: You are of the opinion that what is applied to most should be applied to all.

FACT: That is a matter of interpretation of what the law is.

FACT: Simply because you do not share the interpretation of others does not make their interpretation a misintepretation.

FACT: The law is to be interpreted. In other words, two individuals can look at the same law, grasp two separate understanding of the law and still be protected by that law to enforce that law.

FACT: I wish you much success in your mission.

FACT: I will remain in this thread and post whenever and wherever I feel the need.

src1983 · Postby **src1983** » March 24th, 2009, 12:40 pm

But should we be punished for their interpretation of the law?

jrdeals · Postby **jrdeals** » March 24th, 2009, 12:40 pm

You have my support with this Mr. Gear

16 cycles · Postby **16 cycles** » March 24th, 2009, 12:41 pm

Mr.Gear

don't waste your energies and time responding to AP......

AP = [/ignore]

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 12:43 pm

16 cycles wrote:Mr.Gear

don't waste your energies and time responding to AP......

AP = [/ignore]

AGREED.

noshownogo · Postby **noshownogo** » March 24th, 2009, 12:47 pm

Its a bold move once again by yourself and given the fact that you have succeeded in the past, who are we to deter. God speed...

Postby SR » March 24th, 2009, 12:49 pm

the law doesnt state from what distance........................

AbstractPoetic · Postby **AbstractPoetic** » March 24th, 2009, 12:52 pm

src1983 wrote:But should we be punished for their interpretation of the law?

Have you not entrusted them with the powers to enforce the law?

You live in a democracy. If you do not favor the way in which the law is applied, vote into power someone who shares your opinion.

Though, keep in mind, not all citizens can and will ever be pleased.

TriniVdub · Postby **TriniVdub** » March 24th, 2009, 12:55 pm

AbstractPoetic, do u ever shut up? :roll:

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 12:56 pm

OK. Heads up. This has nothing to do with anyone's opinion on what is too dark or any scientific approach to tint shade examination.

RBphoto · Postby **RBphoto** » March 24th, 2009, 12:57 pm

Mr Gear, For your next project (if I may humbly suggest) take them to court for using public funds to repair and maintain a private road which does not contribute to the country's earnings or pay for itself, yet can be the key to end east west conjestion. You go brutha!!

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 1:00 pm

I gave you the clues. Go get the legislation so we can discuss it before Thursday.

Zeriam · Postby **Zeriam** » March 24th, 2009, 1:00 pm

SR wrote:the law doesnt state from what distance........................

most licensing officers say 10feet away. i've asked 3 random officers and they all said the same thing

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 1:02 pm

Another clue to this tint issue. Get a copy of the Finance Bill 1993. (Road Improvement Tax.)

src1983 · Postby **src1983** » March 24th, 2009, 1:04 pm

Oh i see, i was under the impression that you have to be proven guilty, before punishment could be administered.

dsaint · Postby **dsaint** » March 24th, 2009, 1:17 pm

Nice,

where is this throwdown taking place?

rodfarva · Postby **rodfarva** » March 24th, 2009, 1:32 pm

AbstractPoetic wrote:
Mr. Gear wrote:How can you say what I have premised my argument on when I have not even presented my argument yet ?

Read your below words, slowly:
Mr Gear wrote:Yes folks, your not so friendly citizen's advocate is set to throw down against the Commissioner of Police and the Transport Commissioner this Thursday over their misinterpretation of the laws governing tint.

That's your stance sir. Misinterpretation of the laws. Misinterpretation of how the law should be treated and applied.

He has not yet presented his case, in which he finds that the law has been misinterpreted.
The law can be misinterpreted to such a degree that it is actually broken. If this is so, then Mr. Gear has a very valid point. It is a bit presumptuous of you to analyze his intent without actually knowing what it is.

Misinterpretation to the point of ignorance is not legally recognized.

AbstractPoetic · Postby **AbstractPoetic** » March 24th, 2009, 1:34 pm

Nebert, I have obtained PDF copies of most of the legislation aforementioned. I will peruse tonight and return for a discussion and/or debate. Don't be surprised if no other tuner comes prepared. At least I will be. :mrgreen:

I look forward to the discussion and dissemination of information that is there to empower the citizens.

Postby **Mr Gear** » March 24th, 2009, 1:34 pm

Exactly. I am putting pen to paper now so I will put it up when I'm finished. In the mean time, it is critical that you get the legislation to be able to smoothly follow the dexterity of my arguments.

LOL :wink: