Increased Taxes coming for Turbocharged Vehicles next Budget!

[shake d livin wake d dead]

just buy the fass up engine and put it down from now

[ingalook]

The next tax will be when you change\upgrade your engine

[BoostJunkieXL]

fackin stink pnm govt !!!!! guess i'll never be able to afford an evo now

[ADONI]

Just now we will get tax for d hair on we head...

[SR]

The honda cng only gets 220 per tank and not many options for proper working filling stations for cng. Car is overpriced for the quality of what you are getting

[BoostJunkieXL]

the only CNG station i know of is in Chaguanas and on the Beetham...now think about if there are say about 10-20 CNG stations in Trinidad...the kinda drive people would have to make just to full up. they wanna push CNG and electric but they don't have the proper infrastructure in place to accommodate these types of vehicles. in a world where we are desperately trying to find new forms of natural resources or alternatives, our gov wants us to consume on a daily basis more of it ? the expense it would cost the gov to implement a nationwide refueling infrastructure would either put us more in debt or just give them an excuse to raise vat and tax. they doin $h!t and plenty of it too...why d arse they dont raise minimum wage ? then rowley wanna come on tv n say be proud to pay tax...so he cud buy a fackin benz ? smfh...is a set a stink dotish monkey and donkey running this country. when crime raise and all dem guntas feel they wanna come bobolize people who making an honest living ima see what these idiots will do...they might tell us they gonna raise something again and we should be proud cuz it goes towards paying police officers when half of them will sit and lick their own balls before they respond to an emergency...this country is becoming a $h!t hole ! i hope rowley gets more sick and dies and imbert gets hit by a prius and turns into a vegetable... o_O

[Habit7]

Maybe they will use a factor like in motor racing like 1.4x the cc rating for turbocharged vehicles to determine the n/a equivalent cc. So that 1.0 turbo fiesta wouldnt be affected.

I really cant understand this beat up for this though. It is obvious that they'll have to tax OEM turbo charged vehicles that circumvent the 2.0L NA tax.

A VW 1.4TSI engine (turbocharged) is comparable to a VW 2.0FSI engine (normally aspirated) and both fall under 1999cc. The economical turbo charged engine will not be taxed.

I am yet to hear of an economical middle class targeted +1999cc engine car on the local market. Likewise if you can buy a +1.5T you must have paper. Pay the tax and save the environment.

[ingalook]

I guess the Vanilla Civic is a luxury car then...

[Habit7]

I guess the Vanilla Civic is a luxury car then...

Actually I recently spoke to a ansa sales rep and he said the new Civic is being priced to compete with the Kia Optima and Hyundai Sonata

[toyolink]

This really reminds me of the last major recession when the following applied
-Toyota Royal Saloon was for the super rich.
-Toyota Super Saloon was for the rich.
-Laurel was CEO vehicle.
-Mazda 626 was managers vehicle.
-Toyota Corolla 1.6 fully loaded was middle management.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Maybe they will use a factor like in motor racing like 1.4x the cc rating for turbocharged vehicles to determine the n/a equivalent cc. So that 1.0 turbo fiesta wouldnt be affected.

I really cant understand this beat up for this though. It is obvious that they'll have to tax OEM turbo charged vehicles that circumvent the 2.0L NA tax.

A VW 1.4TSI engine (turbocharged) is comparable to a VW 2.0FSI engine (normally aspirated) and both fall under 1999cc. The economical turbo charged engine will not be taxed.

I am yet to hear of an economical middle class targeted +1999cc engine car on the local market. Likewise if you can buy a +1.5T you must have paper. Pay the tax and save the environment.

all that to show support for the gov't.

[Habit7]

So I should carp like an idiot and bawl that MVT going to increase on 1.0T Fiesta that even on the market yet?

[ingalook]

So I should carp like an idiot and bawl that MVT going to increase on 1.0T Fiesta that even on the market yet?

And never will be...

Local car companies never bring tubo, as they say they are "hard to fix"

Take away the incentive because of smaller engine size (an punish the car for being turbocharged) and we will never see a turbo car from the firm except for multi millionaires I suppose

[Dizzy28]

I guess the Vanilla Civic is a luxury car then...

Actually I recently spoke to a ansa sales rep and he said the new Civic is being priced to compete with the Kia Optima and Hyundai Sonata

Either Ansa mad or the ppl that purchase Civics crazy!!!!

[aaron17]

So why can't they charge on cars with emission figures or mpg?

[ingalook]

So why can't they charge on cars with emission figures or mpg?

Your assumption is that the motivation here is anything other than $$$

It's not about the environment or fuel consumption...

[16 cycles]

twin turbo - good luck with that...yeah you GTR that i can't buy....before or after this tax...

[aaron17]

Well they should've done that ...I guess they not too smart or they don't give a damn..lol wait ..they should charge them ppl from bringing in too much tida ..lol

[pete]

Fuel consumption is more dependent on driving style though. Never saw the top gear episode where they had a sports car drive around behind a prius for some laps of a track? Prius being driven at 100% burned more fuel than the sports car that just kept up.

Fact is that under normal(conservative) driving conditions the smaller the engine the less fuel it burns.

Another thing is that turbocharged vehicles generally cost more than a N/A version with the same displacement(from the supplier). How that's relevant? We need forex to buy the cars to begin with, the less forex the dealer uses to buy the cars the more forex we have to use for other things.

[ingalook]

Fuel consumption is more dependent on driving style though. Never saw the top gear episode where they had a sports car drive around behind a prius for some laps of a track? Prius being driven at 100% burned more fuel than the sports car that just kept up.

Fact is that under normal(conservative) driving conditions the smaller the engine the less fuel it burns.

Another thing is that turbocharged vehicles generally cost more than a N/A version with the same displacement(from the supplier). How that's relevant? We need forex to buy the cars to begin with, the less forex the dealer uses to buy the cars the more forex we have to use for other things.

Pete we are paying as consumer for the cost of the car, if it is 1k USD more, as consumers we will pay 20-30k more TT$ for that car already.

[novastar1]

Maybe they will use a factor like in motor racing like 1.4x the cc rating for turbocharged vehicles to determine the n/a equivalent cc. So that 1.0 turbo fiesta wouldnt be affected.

I really cant understand this beat up for this though. It is obvious that they'll have to tax OEM turbo charged vehicles that circumvent the 2.0L NA tax.

A VW 1.4TSI engine (turbocharged) is comparable to a VW 2.0FSI engine (normally aspirated) and both fall under 1999cc. The economical turbo charged engine will not be taxed.

I am yet to hear of an economical middle class targeted +1999cc engine car on the local market. Likewise if you can buy a +1.5T you must have paper. Pay the tax and save the environment.

all that to show support for the gov't.

Turbos are used to increase the fuel efficiency and thus save the environment.

[Habit7]

Maybe they will use a factor like in motor racing like 1.4x the cc rating for turbocharged vehicles to determine the n/a equivalent cc. So that 1.0 turbo fiesta wouldnt be affected.

I really cant understand this beat up for this though. It is obvious that they'll have to tax OEM turbo charged vehicles that circumvent the 2.0L NA tax.

A VW 1.4TSI engine (turbocharged) is comparable to a VW 2.0FSI engine (normally aspirated) and both fall under 1999cc. The economical turbo charged engine will not be taxed.

I am yet to hear of an economical middle class targeted +1999cc engine car on the local market. Likewise if you can buy a +1.5T you must have paper. Pay the tax and save the environment.

all that to show support for the gov't.

Turbos are used to increase the fuel efficiency and thus save the environment.

No.

Turbos are used to increase power to match that to an engine of greater displacement.

Adding a turbo to an engine doesn't increase fuel efficiency.

[pete]

The turbo allows you to get the horsepower and torque of a bigger engine and when not in boost have the fuel consumption of the smaller engine. So the 1.4 jetta should burn less fuel than the similar 2.0 variant while having the same or more peak HP when you need it.

[ingalook]

Maybe they will use a factor like in motor racing like 1.4x the cc rating for turbocharged vehicles to determine the n/a equivalent cc. So that 1.0 turbo fiesta wouldnt be affected.

I really cant understand this beat up for this though. It is obvious that they'll have to tax OEM turbo charged vehicles that circumvent the 2.0L NA tax.

A VW 1.4TSI engine (turbocharged) is comparable to a VW 2.0FSI engine (normally aspirated) and both fall under 1999cc. The economical turbo charged engine will not be taxed.

I am yet to hear of an economical middle class targeted +1999cc engine car on the local market. Likewise if you can buy a +1.5T you must have paper. Pay the tax and save the environment.

all that to show support for the gov't.

Turbos are used to increase the fuel efficiency and thus save the environment.

No.

Turbos are used to increase power to match that to an engine of greater displacement.

Adding a turbo to an engine doesn't increase fuel efficiency.

What decade you living in boss?

[jhonnieblue]

In all honesty.a tax on turbo charged isn't going to affect a lot of people...if you want efficiency go with a smaller lighter car...small engine turbo charged are used to make up power above the engine rating. I would be willing to suggest a higher tax on non commercial T vehicles...to many cars on the road and traffic is disgusting. Trini to small for all these vehicles

[timelapse]

so what? since few people own them, i doh see the issue. people need to read up on progressive taxation. or make a case why it shouldn't be so.

You on Tuner and spewing this bullcrap?
Do you even know how to drive?

[desifemlove]

so what? since few people own them, i doh see the issue. people need to read up on progressive taxation. or make a case why it shouldn't be so.

You on Tuner and spewing this bullcrap?
Do you even know how to drive?

yes, i have, and i does have a car. and? this tax doh affect me.

[nervewrecker]

so what? since few people own them, i doh see the issue. people need to read up on progressive taxation. or make a case why it shouldn't be so.

You on Tuner and spewing this bullcrap?
Do you even know how to drive?

yes, i have, and i does have a car. and? this tax doh affect me.

It dont affect you cuz your mouth always on a c0ck for $$$ so the owner pay's it for you.

[novastar1]

Maybe they will use a factor like in motor racing like 1.4x the cc rating for turbocharged vehicles to determine the n/a equivalent cc. So that 1.0 turbo fiesta wouldnt be affected.

I really cant understand this beat up for this though. It is obvious that they'll have to tax OEM turbo charged vehicles that circumvent the 2.0L NA tax.

A VW 1.4TSI engine (turbocharged) is comparable to a VW 2.0FSI engine (normally aspirated) and both fall under 1999cc. The economical turbo charged engine will not be taxed.

I am yet to hear of an economical middle class targeted +1999cc engine car on the local market. Likewise if you can buy a +1.5T you must have paper. Pay the tax and save the environment.

all that to show support for the gov't.

Turbos are used to increase the fuel efficiency and thus save the environment.

No.

Turbos are used to increase power to match that to an engine of greater displacement.

Adding a turbo to an engine doesn't increase fuel efficiency.

What decade you living in boss?

Habit7.... Colm is that you?

http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-grim-f ... e-winning/

All you people who think turbos don't increase efficiency should ask yourself what are you doing on an automotive enthusiast forum

[novastar1]

Turbos do increase efficiency by utilizing exhaust that would heat wasted a NA engine.... It also gives a more air for a better ... Leading to decreased emissions

This is why there are so many euro manufacturers that have foregone larger Na engines for smaller turbo engines


Honestly I don't know now if those who are saying turbos don't increase efficiency are just trolling