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Habit7 wrote:Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
All built with the sole purpose of enriching friends, families and financiers and providing kick backs to politicians. The pnm exists to enrich the 1%. They just use the blk ppl to ride into power to access the treasury. The 1% are the new slave owners.
Those 3 new hospitals were built by foreign contractors selected by the PP. How does this enrich PNM friends, families and financiers?
Sorry. I meant political class*. Didn't mean to single out the PNM. Even though it was that party that built the system as it is for a very specific purpose of diverting public funds. The US has military industrial context and we have tenderpreneurship.
Ever notice how something somewhere is always being built with no real specific purpose but a sod turning is always occuring somewhere? And yet the country still isn't developing even with all these "developments" etc.
The UNC just took corruption to a whole other level but they didn't build the system like that. They just took advantage. The system was designed to fail boy. The reason it eh completely collapse is because it have some seriously patriotic trinis working in the shadows to keep things afloat. Ppl who will never get enough praise.
All you are doing is being cynical and vague. I just pointed out 3 new hospitals which provide free healthcare financed by only half the working population paying TT$33.50 a month but you saying we are still developing and turning sod for useless stuff.
If you don't like it, you are free to leave you know
Hwells wrote:scumbag yellow and red thiefing out d money and their supporters fighting each other like idiots. imagine if we actually use the resources to uplift the country.
Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
All built with the sole purpose of enriching friends, families and financiers and providing kick backs to politicians. The pnm exists to enrich the 1%. They just use the blk ppl to ride into power to access the treasury. The 1% are the new slave owners.
Those 3 new hospitals were built by foreign contractors selected by the PP. How does this enrich PNM friends, families and financiers?
Sorry. I meant political class*. Didn't mean to single out the PNM. Even though it was that party that built the system as it is for a very specific purpose of diverting public funds. The US has military industrial context and we have tenderpreneurship.
Ever notice how something somewhere is always being built with no real specific purpose but a sod turning is always occuring somewhere? And yet the country still isn't developing even with all these "developments" etc.
The UNC just took corruption to a whole other level but they didn't build the system like that. They just took advantage. The system was designed to fail boy. The reason it eh completely collapse is because it have some seriously patriotic trinis working in the shadows to keep things afloat. Ppl who will never get enough praise.
All you are doing is being cynical and vague. I just pointed out 3 new hospitals which provide free healthcare financed by only half the working population paying TT$33.50 a month but you saying we are still developing and turning sod for useless stuff.
If you don't like it, you are free to leave you know
You just being obtuse but thanks for proving my point. No where else in the world healthcare could cost $33.50 but magically that is all trinis paying for it. Meanwhile, all the pharmaceutical imports and services/products to actually run the health system are billion dollar contracts to private entities controlled and connected to the 1%. So ya fooling the citizens that healthcare "free" and accessible whilst cutting a billion dollar check to private sector for things such as gloves and janitorial services.
Keep fooling the ppl. 6 billion a year on average is spent on health care in TT year after year yet it not improving. Wonder why?
Oh and btw those hospitals were not gifts from China. They are loana that will need to be repaid by future generations.
Years ago I had to explain to you that the health surcharge was not enough to run the 5 existing hospitals and the 3 hospitals that were under construction. Now they are all complete and you still don't understand. Thank God we didn't cancel them like you were demanding, we would be like Jamaica right now. viewtopic.php?p=9205365#p9205365De Dragon wrote:Tunts7 really believe free health care is fully funded by health surcharge?
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Habit7 wrote:
Again you are just being cynical and vague. Ease up on this Marxist 1% rhetoric. We live in a capitalist society, if people and companies run a successful business that is good. They provide jobs and sustain the economy. I don't know which private sector company makes a billion dollars from MoH, but like other things you are just being vague. If anything like other ministries, the private sector does not like to do business with govt because they pay late. Nevertheless, with TT or elsewhere, healthcare service providers and pharmaceutical companies are mostly large established entities. I don't know which mom and pop shops can manufacture MRI machines and service them.
And in other vagueness, healthcare is not improving? By what standard. Infant mortality has gone down, life expectancy is increasing, free medication for chronic diseases, since 2010 5 new hospitals and 2 more on the way.
You seem like the covid-19 conspiracy type.Years ago I had to explain to you that the health surcharge was not enough to run the 5 existing hospitals and the 3 hospitals that were under construction. Now they are all complete and you still don't understand. Thank God we didn't cancel them like you were demanding, we would be like Jamaica right now. viewtopic.php?p=9205365#p9205365De Dragon wrote:Tunts7 really believe free health care is fully funded by health surcharge?
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Hwells wrote:scumbag yellow and red thiefing out d money and their supporters fighting each other like idiots. imagine if we actually use the resources to uplift the country.
Different name ,same khaki pantsRedman wrote:Hwells wrote:scumbag yellow and red thiefing out d money and their supporters fighting each other like idiots. imagine if we actually use the resources to uplift the country.
This govt looks like the last one..and resembles the next.
People who get their identity from 3 letters need to believe that there is a difference.
Cont tree got what the voted for and you voted for the red government so don't complain.Redman wrote:Hwells wrote:scumbag yellow and red thiefing out d money and their supporters fighting each other like idiots. imagine if we actually use the resources to uplift the country.
This govt looks like the last one..and resembles the next.
People who get their identity from 3 letters need to believe that there is a difference.
Habit7 wrote:
Again you are just being cynical and vague. Ease up on this Marxist 1% rhetoric. We live in a capitalist society, if people and companies run a successful business that is good. They provide jobs and sustain the economy. I don't know which private sector company makes a billion dollars from MoH, but like other things you are just being vague. If anything like other ministries, the private sector does not like to do business with govt because they pay late. Nevertheless, with TT or elsewhere, healthcare service providers and pharmaceutical companies are mostly large established entities. I don't know which mom and pop shops can manufacture MRI machines and service them.
And in other vagueness, healthcare is not improving? By what standard. Infant mortality has gone down, life expectancy is increasing, free medication for chronic diseases, since 2010 5 new hospitals and 2 more on the way.
You seem like the covid-19 conspiracy type.Years ago I had to explain to you that the health surcharge was not enough to run the 5 existing hospitals and the 3 hospitals that were under construction. Now they are all complete and you still don't understand. Thank God we didn't cancel them like you were demanding, we would be like Jamaica right now. viewtopic.php?p=9205365#p9205365De Dragon wrote:Tunts7 really believe free health care is fully funded by health surcharge?
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Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:
Again you are just being cynical and vague. Ease up on this Marxist 1% rhetoric. We live in a capitalist society, if people and companies run a successful business that is good. They provide jobs and sustain the economy. I don't know which private sector company makes a billion dollars from MoH, but like other things you are just being vague. If anything like other ministries, the private sector does not like to do business with govt because they pay late. Nevertheless, with TT or elsewhere, healthcare service providers and pharmaceutical companies are mostly large established entities. I don't know which mom and pop shops can manufacture MRI machines and service them.
And in other vagueness, healthcare is not improving? By what standard. Infant mortality has gone down, life expectancy is increasing, free medication for chronic diseases, since 2010 5 new hospitals and 2 more on the way.
You seem like the covid-19 conspiracy type.Years ago I had to explain to you that the health surcharge was not enough to run the 5 existing hospitals and the 3 hospitals that were under construction. Now they are all complete and you still don't understand. Thank God we didn't cancel them like you were demanding, we would be like Jamaica right now. viewtopic.php?p=9205365#p9205365De Dragon wrote:Tunts7 really believe free health care is fully funded by health surcharge?
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How can TT be a capitalist society if Gov't controls over 70% of all spending in the economy? Do you think those parties are in politics for the greater good or to get access to tens of billions of dollars? You really starting to sound stupid.
A capitalist society but subsidised housing, healthcare, education and even grocery? Try and make sense bro. This country exists to funnel billions of dollars of state money into private hands via "contracts". The kickbacks are then given to members of the political class. Is not rocket science.
I'm glad that other people are seeing through the charade of the divide/distract and conquer politics.Hopefully one day ,this country will wake up and truly be independentRedress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:
Again you are just being cynical and vague. Ease up on this Marxist 1% rhetoric. We live in a capitalist society, if people and companies run a successful business that is good. They provide jobs and sustain the economy. I don't know which private sector company makes a billion dollars from MoH, but like other things you are just being vague. If anything like other ministries, the private sector does not like to do business with govt because they pay late. Nevertheless, with TT or elsewhere, healthcare service providers and pharmaceutical companies are mostly large established entities. I don't know which mom and pop shops can manufacture MRI machines and service them.
And in other vagueness, healthcare is not improving? By what standard. Infant mortality has gone down, life expectancy is increasing, free medication for chronic diseases, since 2010 5 new hospitals and 2 more on the way.
You seem like the covid-19 conspiracy type.Years ago I had to explain to you that the health surcharge was not enough to run the 5 existing hospitals and the 3 hospitals that were under construction. Now they are all complete and you still don't understand. Thank God we didn't cancel them like you were demanding, we would be like Jamaica right now. https://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/vi ... 5#p9205365De Dragon wrote:Tunts7 really believe free health care is fully funded by health surcharge?
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How can TT be a capitalist society if Gov't controls over 70% of all spending in the economy? Do you think those parties are in politics for the greater good or to get access to tens of billions of dollars? You really starting to sound stupid.
A capitalist society but subsidised housing, healthcare, education and even grocery? Try and make sense bro. This country exists to funnel billions of dollars of state money into private hands via "contracts". The kickbacks are then given to members of the political class. Is not rocket science.
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