COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates) (Poll added)

[Gladiator]

So what is you top up a double Sino with a zenica... asking for a friend...

Talk to your doctor about it.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/ ... -boosters/
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

Thanks for the info... good reading there.

[redmanjp]

Tuner reaching herd immunity - this is good news

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[aaron17]

So what is you top up a double Sino with a zenica... asking for a friend...

Talk to your doctor about it.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/ ... -boosters/
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

Thanks for the info... good reading there.

How about one sino and one astra? I doubt cause it rel weak ?

[adnj]

So what is you top up a double Sino with a zenica... asking for a friend...

don't think we have any data on that, better a pfizer or moderna

What kind of lab you running there bro.

[FrankChag]

This was a beautifully coherent speech, right up until the bonus crap.. that just seems manipulative.
Should've quit while he was ahead.

Didn't watch to the end, but I believe the no-vax==no-work is fair (for all the reasons bosmang mentioned) , unless you have extenuating circumstances, backed up in writing by a Dr's letter.

It's time to done this antivax bs.
As I saw one person put it, "GATE was supposed to fix all this dotishness in the country".

Employees being guided that being unvaccinated comes with consequences

[redmanjp]

^ according to law u can't unilaterally change terms & conditions of work, so mandatory vax else no work can get challenged and thrown out in court. you can do it for ppl applying for a job by putting it into their contract- they can decide if to take it or not.
what u can do with current workers is encourage them to take the vax, even offer incentives. but taking away EXISTING bonuses might also be tricky.
additional health requirements like PCR tests are probably ok.

[FrankChag]

This falls under OSHA. Although not tested, workers willing to test this under OSHA Section 6(1) will most likely lose. The law in this case is on the side of the employer.

Dr. Broome's (law prof) thoughts on this matter should be carefully considered:
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/covid-1 ... es-law-say

And, even if it gets drawn out in courts, most new contracts will soon have a clause on vacc's for infectious diseases anyways.

Luckily we only hire smart ppl. All my employees are vaxxed, or 1/2-way there.

^ according to law u can't unilaterally change terms & conditions of work, so mandatory vax else no work can get challenged and thrown out in court. you can do it for ppl applying for a job by putting it into their contract- they can decide if to take it or not.
what u can do with current workers is encourage them to take the vax, even offer incentives. but taking away EXISTING bonuses might also be tricky.
additional health requirements like PCR tests are probably ok.

[The_Honourable]

Employees being guided that being unvaccinated comes with consequences

Response to this from 2:25

[redmanjp]

This falls under OSHA. Although not tested, workers willing to test this under OSHA Section 6(1) will most likely lose. The law in this case is on the side of the employer.

Dr. Broome's (law prof) thoughts on this matter should be carefully considered:
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/covid-1 ... es-law-say

And, even if it gets drawn out in courts, most new contracts will soon have a clause on vacc's for infectious diseases anyways.

Luckily we only hire smart ppl. All my employees are vaxxed, or 1/2-way there.

^ according to law u can't unilaterally change terms & conditions of work, so mandatory vax else no work can get challenged and thrown out in court. you can do it for ppl applying for a job by putting it into their contract- they can decide if to take it or not.
what u can do with current workers is encourage them to take the vax, even offer incentives. but taking away EXISTING bonuses might also be tricky.
additional health requirements like PCR tests are probably ok.

it may differ for medical workers in a hospital because of the risk of both contraction as well as exposure to vulnerable people. and what about ppl with medical reasons for not taking it? risk of allergic reactions or doctor's advice? certainly there ought to be exemptions.

[FrankChag]

This falls under OSHA. Although not tested, workers willing to test this under OSHA Section 6(1) will most likely lose. The law in this case is on the side of the employer.

Dr. Broome's (law prof) thoughts on this matter should be carefully considered:
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/covid-1 ... es-law-say

And, even if it gets drawn out in courts, most new contracts will soon have a clause on vacc's for infectious diseases anyways.

Luckily we only hire smart ppl. All my employees are vaxxed, or 1/2-way there.

^ according to law u can't unilaterally change terms & conditions of work, so mandatory vax else no work can get challenged and thrown out in court. you can do it for ppl applying for a job by putting it into their contract- they can decide if to take it or not.
what u can do with current workers is encourage them to take the vax, even offer incentives. but taking away EXISTING bonuses might also be tricky.
additional health requirements like PCR tests are probably ok.

it may differ for medical workers in a hospital because of the risk of both contraction as well as exposure to vulnerable people. and what about ppl with medical reasons for not taking it? risk of allergic reactions or doctor's advice? certainly there ought to be exemptions.

Agreed...


................ vvvv

, unless you have extenuating circumstances, backed up in writing by a Dr's letter.

[MaxPower]

Some business are more concerned with vaccinations than mask wearing.

And then they will cry and question why if and when we get lockdown again.

It is imperative that we heavily invest in measures to stop the spread of viruses. Not take a jab and relax.

It’s easier to fire someone for not wearing a mask than not taking a vaccine.

[De Dragon]

Some business are more concerned with vaccinations than mask wearing.

And then they will cry and question why if and when we get lockdown again.

It is imperative that we heavily invest in measures to stop the spread of viruses. Not take a jab and relax.

It’s easier to fire someone for not wearing a mask than not taking a vaccine.

What do you have in place?

[paid_influencer]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8289694/

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[Kenjo]

Some business are more concerned with vaccinations than mask wearing.

And then they will cry and question why if and when we get lockdown again.

It is imperative that we heavily invest in measures to stop the spread of viruses. Not take a jab and relax.

It’s easier to fire someone for not wearing a mask than not taking a vaccine.

Where is saying to throw caution to the wind after vaccines ?

[De Dragon]

Some business are more concerned with vaccinations than mask wearing.

And then they will cry and question why if and when we get lockdown again.

It is imperative that we heavily invest in measures to stop the spread of viruses. Not take a jab and relax.

It’s easier to fire someone for not wearing a mask than not taking a vaccine.

Where is saying to throw caution to the wind after vaccines ?

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[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Unvaccinated People Account For 100% Of COVID-19 Deaths In Tobago

[pugboy]

Wonder if folks resigned to know carnival 2022 likely ain’t happening

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Employees being guided that being unvaccinated comes with consequences

Response to this from 2:25

In previous strains of the Covid virus including the P1 (Gamma) variant that is currently dominant in T&T, the viral load is lower in vaccinated covid positive patients and significantly higher in unvaccinated which leads to more spread.
In the Delta variant - which is yet to affect T&T - there are reports that checking cycle threshold (CT) for viral load levels shows that vaccinated and unvaccinated both show high loads. It is inconclusive though as not enough tests have been done with vaccinated breakthrough patients and Delta and the situation is fluid, even with regards to research. https://www.colorado.edu/today/2021/08/ ... earch-says

Hospitalization and death on the other hand have so far been considerably lower in vaccinated Covid positive patients regardless of strain, even in Delta.

For the nation as a whole we want to free up the strain on the health care system by having as many people as possible vaccinated.
For a company, it makes sense to have all employees vaccinated and even customers also to reduce the risk of spreading the virus.
When it comes to Delta variant however and even Epsilon, the focus should be on preserving staff health and saving lives. In which case it still makes sense to have all employees vaccinated and even customers.

Even on the forum here people realise they get a lot of views and attention by going against the common sense of getting vaccinated so they do it just for that.

We ALL have to realise that multiple layers of protection are necessary for us to keep businesses open and hospitals from overflowing. We have a much better chance of saving the population and the economy by having all those layers - and that includes everyone being vaccinated.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Wonder if folks resigned to know carnival 2022 likely ain’t happening

We've had nearly 1000 deaths just in the past 3 months in 2021
We had 129 deaths for the WHOLE of 2020

[pugboy]

What he not saying is if you are vaccinated you are less likely to be sick and less likely to be sick for long and thus be a spreader for longer
And he not saying you stand a better chance if not being seriously ill
He seems on interested in the employee rights issue

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

What he not saying is if you are vaccinated you are less likely to be sick and less likely to be sick for long and thus be a spreader for longer
And he not saying you stand a better chance if not being seriously ill
He seems on interested in the employee rights issue

You think the virus cares about anybody's rights?

[hover11]

Bear in mind if the employer requires regular testing it is written that the employer must bear this cost

This falls under OSHA. Although not tested, workers willing to test this under OSHA Section 6(1) will most likely lose. The law in this case is on the side of the employer.

Dr. Broome's (law prof) thoughts on this matter should be carefully considered:
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/covid-1 ... es-law-say

And, even if it gets drawn out in courts, most new contracts will soon have a clause on vacc's for infectious diseases anyways.

Luckily we only hire smart ppl. All my employees are vaxxed, or 1/2-way there.

^ according to law u can't unilaterally change terms & conditions of work, so mandatory vax else no work can get challenged and thrown out in court. you can do it for ppl applying for a job by putting it into their contract- they can decide if to take it or not.
what u can do with current workers is encourage them to take the vax, even offer incentives. but taking away EXISTING bonuses might also be tricky.
additional health requirements like PCR tests are probably ok.

[timelapse]

What he not saying is if you are vaccinated you are less likely to be sick and less likely to be sick for long and thus be a spreader for longer
And he not saying you stand a better chance if not being seriously ill
He seems on interested in the employee rights issue

You think the virus cares about anybody's rights?

Could not have said it better.

[redmanjp]

Unvaccinated People Account For 100% Of COVID-19 Deaths In Tobago

'the Delta variant will appear soon" not might, or could, but 'will'. and judging from the fact that they not even quarantine unvaxxed minors at home if their parents vaxxed it's like they fully welcoming the Delta variant!

[Carbon12]

What he not saying is if you are vaccinated you are less likely to be sick and less likely to be sick for long and thus be a spreader for longer
And he not saying you stand a better chance if not being seriously ill
He seems on interested in the employee rights issue

You think the virus cares about anybody's rights?

I don't think the virus has the ability to care, i think only self replication is its agenda.

[Mmoney607]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8289694/

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Absolutely brilliant article. Fantastic. 10/10

I would just add the financial and political aspect of the vaccine or nothing agenda. Pharmaceutical companies and their investors stand to make billions. And global politicians can use this as a way to further control and gain more power to carry out their agendas.

[Mmoney607]

What he not saying is if you are vaccinated you are less likely to be sick and less likely to be sick for long and thus be a spreader for longer
And he not saying you stand a better chance if not being seriously ill
He seems on interested in the employee rights issue

You think the virus cares about anybody's rights?

Exactly. The virus cares about age, comorbidities and compromised immune systems.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Vaccination may provide more protection than COVID-19 natural immunity, CDC study finds

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/ ... mm7032e1_w

The COVID-19 vaccines may provide greater protection against reinfection than natural immunity, according to a new study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“If you have had COVID-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you, especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country.”

[timelapse]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8289694/

leaving this here and running away

Absolutely brilliant article. Fantastic. 10/10

I would just add the financial and political aspect of the vaccine or nothing agenda. Pharmaceutical companies and their investors stand to make billions. And global politicians can use this as a way to further control and gain more power to carry out their agendas.

If they making money, how is it of any use to you if you dead with covid?

[Penguin]

Woke up to some sad news today.

My god mother died of covid yesterday. I saw her just a month ago when I went to drop off some fruits from the garden.

She was only 58 and in perfect health, this woman used to go hiking all over the country, used to swim a lot. She is the last person you'd think would succumb to this virus. Absoltely no cormobities.

My cousin was telling me (don't know how true), that some people regardless of health, have certain genes that allow covid to affect them really bady.

She was not vaccinated. Last time I saw her I told her to go get it, but she said she wanted to wait for Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca as she wanted to travel to Canada next month so that she could see her newest grandchild.

God I wish she took the vaccine. Her husband also has covid and isn't doing too well himself.

RIP Auntie.

I take back all my previous anti-vax (really just a cautious approach) sentiment.

People, these vaccines are saving lives and will save you or your loved ones. My godmother's mother and aunts are all alive in the late 70s and early 80s. At 58, she could have easily had another 30 years of life, but it was cut short by this wretched virus.