Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

[sMASH]

Sorry for the ppl that renting their rent just increased without them knowing it

they vote for dat... them mc!!

[Rayden6]

Tax above sea level then come on the ground

[hover11]

Some people not paying their HDC mortgage for years, some not paying their HDC rent for years....the government really think these same ppl gonna pay property tax hmmm wierd

[88sins]

Some people not paying their HDC mortgage for years, some not paying their HDC rent for years....the government really think these same ppl gonna pay property tax hmmm wierd

Seems like you're unaware, tenants of rented apartments aren't responsible for property taxes. Neither are persons with mortgages, the taxes are added to the mortgage amount and the bank pays it.

[hover11]

Some people not paying their HDC mortgage for years, some not paying their HDC rent for years....the government really think these same ppl gonna pay property tax hmmm wierd

Seems like you're unaware, tenants of rented apartments aren't responsible for property taxes. Neither are persons with mortgages, the taxes are added to the mortgage amount and the bank pays it.

Who is this really targeted towards sins? When the majority of home owners in this country are pensioners who are exempted

[DMan7]

How much y'all think rent going to go up? By 25%?

[bluefete]

How much y'all think rent going to go up? By 25%?

The full cost of the property tax and then some.

[bluefete]

Some people not paying their HDC mortgage for years, some not paying their HDC rent for years....the government really think these same ppl gonna pay property tax hmmm wierd

Seems like you're unaware, tenants of rented apartments aren't responsible for property taxes. Neither are persons with mortgages, the taxes are added to the mortgage amount and the bank pays it.

Who is this really targeted towards sins? When the majority of home owners in this country are pensioners who are exempted

Do not get tied up with this. A pensioner being exempted does not mean that the tax is not due. It is just deferred.

When they die, the estate will have to pay the back taxes. Property Tax Act - Part IV - Sections 23-27.

[bluefete]

Section 45: - Where the state can thief your land after 16 years is what people should be concerned about.

[Chimera]

Hdc does actually evict people who don't pay their hdc mortgage and payments?

[redmanjp]

Hdc does actually evict people who don't pay their hdc mortgage and payments?

depending on who they does vote for, maybe.

[zoom rader]

Section 45: - Where the state can thief your land after 16 years is what people should be concerned about.

Red government jackasses vote for dat.

Let dem take bull

[paid_influencer]

Section 45: - Where the state can thief your land after 16 years is what people should be concerned about.

this IS concerning

[bluefete]

Hdc does actually evict people who don't pay their hdc mortgage and payments?

depending on who they does vote for, maybe.

Once you have a PNM party card, yuh safe (for now).

[bluefete]

Section 45: - Where the state can thief your land after 16 years is what people should be concerned about.

this IS concerning

Very much so because they could stall you for 16 years (via no assessment) and then thief the land.

45. (1) Any land which for a period of sixteen years has
been unoccupied and unassessed, and upon which during such
period, no taxes have been paid, shall be liable to be forfeited to
the State.

(2) The President may, by warrant under his hand,
reciting that such land has been unoccupied and unassessed for a
period of sixteen years, and that no taxes have been paid thereon
during such period, order that such land be forfeited to the State,
and thereupon such land and building shall be forfeited
accordingly and shall vest in the State in absolute dominion,
free and discharged from all rights, estates, interests, equities,
and claims of any other person.

(3) The President shall not issue or sign a warrant under
this section unless the Board has first certified under its hand that
such land has, for the full period of sixteen years next preceding
the date of such certificate, been unoccupied and unassessed and
that no taxes have been paid thereon during such period and
unless the Commissioner of State Lands on such certificate has
caused a notice to be published in the Gazette and in one
newspaper published on at least three occasions and circulating
in Trinidad and Tobago that unless any person can show good
cause to the contrary before a date to be mentioned in such
notice, and which shall not be earlier than twenty-eight days after
the issue of such notice, such land will be forfeited.

(4) The President may decide upon any claim which
may be made to any land which may be advertised as so liable to
forfeiture, and may make such order in relation thereto as he may
think fit.

46. (1) Any petition for the re-grant of any land
forfeited under this Act, or of any interest therein, or for any
allowance in respect of any right or interest in any such forfeited
land sold, shall be addressed to the President and shall be
delivered to the office of the Commissioner of State Lands.

(2) The President may, where he thinks fit, refer a
petition under subsection (1), to the Commissioner of State
Lands or the Board, Appeal Board or other person with
directions to report thereon.

(3) The person to whom any such petition is referred
may take such evidence as he may think proper in order to enable
him to make his report.

(4) Evidence under subsection (3) may be given either
viva voce or by statutory declaration.
Re-grant of
land forfeited.
MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND LEGAL AFFAIRS www.legalaffairs.gov.tt UNOFFICIAL VERSION
UPDATED TO 31ST DECEMBER 2016
Property Tax Chap. 76:04 25
LAWS OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
L.R.O.

(5) In the case of evidence given viva voce the witness
before giving evidence shall make the following declaration:
“I declare that the evidence which I have given in this
matter shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.”.

(6) Any witness who, having made such
declaration, makes as part of his evidence any assertion as to any
matter of fact, opinion, or belief which is false and which he
knows or believes to be false or does not believe to be true,
commits an offence and is liable on conviction on indictment to
a fine of five thousand dollars

[adnj]

^^ Government gonna grab land from the land grabbers that grabbed government land.

[88sins]

Some people not paying their HDC mortgage for years, some not paying their HDC rent for years....the government really think these same ppl gonna pay property tax hmmm wierd

Seems like you're unaware, tenants of rented apartments aren't responsible for property taxes. Neither are persons with mortgages, the taxes are added to the mortgage amount and the bank pays it.

Who is this really targeted towards sins? When the majority of home owners in this country are pensioners who are exempted

First off, being a pensioner does not equate to automatic exemption or deferral. They still have to pay it, and if they want to defer it then they must apply to request said deferral, and it's not guaranteed that a deferral will be granted. Young, old, rich, poor, and everybody who owns land or a building whether you own the land or not, has a tax liability.

But to answer your question
This property tax was conceived with only one purpose in mind.
To extort the widest cross section of the population into paying the state large sums of money for absolutely zero benefit to the taxpayer.

[zoom rader]

Some people not paying their HDC mortgage for years, some not paying their HDC rent for years....the government really think these same ppl gonna pay property tax hmmm wierd

Seems like you're unaware, tenants of rented apartments aren't responsible for property taxes. Neither are persons with mortgages, the taxes are added to the mortgage amount and the bank pays it.

Who is this really targeted towards sins? When the majority of home owners in this country are pensioners who are exempted

First off, being a pensioner does not equate to automatic exemption or deferral. They still have to pay it, and if they want to defer it then they must apply to request said deferral, and it's not guaranteed that a deferral will be granted. Young, old, rich, poor, and everybody who owns land or a building whether you own the land or not, has a tax liability.

But to answer your question
This property tax was conceived with only one purpose in mind.
To extort the widest cross section of the population into paying the state large sums of money for absolutely zero benefit to the taxpayer.

It was designed to limit injun ownership on lands

Injun tax

[Kronik]

Section 45: - Where the state can thief your land after 16 years is what people should be concerned about.

this IS concerning

Very much so because they could stall you for 16 years (via no assessment) and then thief the land.

45. (1) Any land which for a period of sixteen years has
been unoccupied and unassessed, and upon which during such
period, no taxes have been paid, shall be liable to be forfeited to
the State.

(2) The President may, by warrant under his hand,
reciting that such land has been unoccupied and unassessed for a
period of sixteen years, and that no taxes have been paid thereon
during such period, order that such land be forfeited to the State,
and thereupon such land and building shall be forfeited
accordingly and shall vest in the State in absolute dominion,
free and discharged from all rights, estates, interests, equities,
and claims of any other person.

(3) The President shall not issue or sign a warrant under
this section unless the Board has first certified under its hand that
such land has, for the full period of sixteen years next preceding
the date of such certificate, been unoccupied and unassessed and
that no taxes have been paid thereon during such period and
unless the Commissioner of State Lands on such certificate has
caused a notice to be published in the Gazette and in one
newspaper published on at least three occasions and circulating
in Trinidad and Tobago that unless any person can show good
cause to the contrary before a date to be mentioned in such
notice, and which shall not be earlier than twenty-eight days after
the issue of such notice, such land will be forfeited.

(4) The President may decide upon any claim which
may be made to any land which may be advertised as so liable to
forfeiture, and may make such order in relation thereto as he may
think fit.

46. (1) Any petition for the re-grant of any land
forfeited under this Act, or of any interest therein, or for any
allowance in respect of any right or interest in any such forfeited
land sold, shall be addressed to the President and shall be
delivered to the office of the Commissioner of State Lands.

(2) The President may, where he thinks fit, refer a
petition under subsection (1), to the Commissioner of State
Lands or the Board, Appeal Board or other person with
directions to report thereon.

(3) The person to whom any such petition is referred
may take such evidence as he may think proper in order to enable
him to make his report.

(4) Evidence under subsection (3) may be given either
viva voce or by statutory declaration.
Re-grant of
land forfeited.
MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND LEGAL AFFAIRS http://www.legalaffairs.gov.tt UNOFFICIAL VERSION
UPDATED TO 31ST DECEMBER 2016
Property Tax Chap. 76:04 25
LAWS OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
L.R.O.

(5) In the case of evidence given viva voce the witness
before giving evidence shall make the following declaration:
“I declare that the evidence which I have given in this
matter shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.”.

(6) Any witness who, having made such
declaration, makes as part of his evidence any assertion as to any
matter of fact, opinion, or belief which is false and which he
knows or believes to be false or does not believe to be true,
commits an offence and is liable on conviction on indictment to
a fine of five thousand dollars

So are they doing land assessments right now? I know they had stopped doing it a long time ago

[The_Honourable]

This was normal during colonial days. I have seen examples from the 1940s and 1950s of "Warrants of Forfeiture" by the "Governor & Intendant of Crown Lands" being issued where thousands of acres of private land all over trinidad were seized and went back to the Crown (now state lands) for not paying 2+ years of tax.

Lots of private lands in unpopulated areas or "the bush" ripe for the picking under this new property tax.

[ProtonPowder]

Section 45: - Where the state can thief your land after 16 years is what people should be concerned about.

this IS concerning

Very much so because they could stall you for 16 years (via no assessment) and then thief the land.

45. (1) Any land which for a period of sixteen years has
been unoccupied and unassessed, and upon which during such
period, no taxes have been paid, shall be liable to be forfeited to
the State.

(2) The President may, by warrant under his hand,
reciting that such land has been unoccupied and unassessed for a
period of sixteen years, and that no taxes have been paid thereon
during such period, order that such land be forfeited to the State,
and thereupon such land and building shall be forfeited
accordingly and shall vest in the State in absolute dominion,
free and discharged from all rights, estates, interests, equities,
and claims of any other person.

(3) The President shall not issue or sign a warrant under
this section unless the Board has first certified under its hand that
such land has, for the full period of sixteen years next preceding
the date of such certificate, been unoccupied and unassessed and
that no taxes have been paid thereon during such period and
unless the Commissioner of State Lands on such certificate has
caused a notice to be published in the Gazette and in one
newspaper published on at least three occasions and circulating
in Trinidad and Tobago that unless any person can show good
cause to the contrary before a date to be mentioned in such
notice, and which shall not be earlier than twenty-eight days after
the issue of such notice, such land will be forfeited.

(4) The President may decide upon any claim which
may be made to any land which may be advertised as so liable to
forfeiture, and may make such order in relation thereto as he may
think fit.

46. (1) Any petition for the re-grant of any land
forfeited under this Act, or of any interest therein, or for any
allowance in respect of any right or interest in any such forfeited
land sold, shall be addressed to the President and shall be
delivered to the office of the Commissioner of State Lands.

(2) The President may, where he thinks fit, refer a
petition under subsection (1), to the Commissioner of State
Lands or the Board, Appeal Board or other person with
directions to report thereon.

(3) The person to whom any such petition is referred
may take such evidence as he may think proper in order to enable
him to make his report.

(4) Evidence under subsection (3) may be given either
viva voce or by statutory declaration.
Re-grant of
land forfeited.
MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND LEGAL AFFAIRS http://www.legalaffairs.gov.tt UNOFFICIAL VERSION
UPDATED TO 31ST DECEMBER 2016
Property Tax Chap. 76:04 25
LAWS OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
L.R.O.

(5) In the case of evidence given viva voce the witness
before giving evidence shall make the following declaration:
“I declare that the evidence which I have given in this
matter shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.”.

(6) Any witness who, having made such
declaration, makes as part of his evidence any assertion as to any
matter of fact, opinion, or belief which is false and which he
knows or believes to be false or does not believe to be true,
commits an offence and is liable on conviction on indictment to
a fine of five thousand dollars

So are they doing land assessments right now? I know they had stopped doing it a long time ago

more or less continuously for the last 4 years

[death365]

The issue I'm having is that somehow collection of household taxes are more important and urgent than business. Kinda reminds me of the famous quite from animal farm.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

[PariaMan]

The issue I'm having is that somehow collection of household taxes are more important and urgent than business. Kinda reminds me of the famous quite from animal farm.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Exactly why not commercial land first or at least the same time

I hope the opposition challenges in the court based on this

Seems very unfair

I heard that Imbert was begged by his ministry to start with commercial but he refused

Also understand that the PP government planned to start with commercial

[timelapse]

The issue I'm having is that somehow collection of household taxes are more important and urgent than business. Kinda reminds me of the famous quite from animal farm.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Exactly why not commercial land first or at least the same time

I hope the opposition challenges in the court based on this

Seems very unfair

I heard that Imbert was begged by his ministry to start with commercial but he refused

Also understand that the PP government planned to start with commercial

Opposition not going to fight anything that makes sense.They choose the most dotish of things to make a scene about.Like their leader, lacking substance.

[bluefete]

The issue I'm having is that somehow collection of household taxes are more important and urgent than business. Kinda reminds me of the famous quite from animal farm.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Exactly why not commercial land first or at least the same time

I hope the opposition challenges in the court based on this

Seems very unfair

I heard that Imbert was begged by his ministry to start with commercial but he refused

Also understand that the PP government planned to start with commercial

Initially, commercial property was going to be the first to be taxed and residential land would be last. That was the plan.

Imbert is a businessman - do the Math!

How many times do I have to tell people - this PNM government is for the rich, by the rich and of the rich? Prime Minister Dr. The Unhonourable Keith C. Rowley openly said so.

Poor people can go to hell.

[88sins]

I want to see what they gonna say when years after they start collecting this property tax people still hadda deal with the same conditions or worse that said property tax was supposed to be used to fix.

[PariaMan]

I want to see what they gonna say when years after they start collecting this property tax people still hadda deal with the same conditions or worse that said property tax was supposed to be used to fix.

These guys have zero shame

The promised news about reduction in prices for hybrid by mid may .

Nothing

They just gave us something to hold

[Rayden6]

I raising my rent 100%

[88sins]

I raising my rent 100%

You won't be the only one increasing the rent, but 100% is a bit much.
I know some people who already planning to increase the rent on their units, but they mostly going to increase them by 30-40%.

Because a thing that some people don't think about, is that not long after these well-dressed ticks implement this property tax, they going to start targeting landlords for income tax based on income earned from rental properties. When that happens, immediately everyone will increase their rent by at least 30%. Tenants are the ones who gonna bear that load whether they like it or not. And the first thing they gonna say is "d landlord too wicked to raise the rent so much so sudden", not thinking about what caused the landlord to have to do it.

Mark may words, it coming. I just hope allyuh ready for it when it reach.

[RedVEVO]

I raising my rent 100%

You won't be the only one increasing the rent, but 100% is a bit much.
I know some people who already planning to increase the rent on their units, but they mostly going to increase them by 30-40%.

Because a thing that some people don't think about, is that not long after these well-dressed ticks implement this property tax, they going to start targeting landlords for income tax based on income earned from rental properties. When that happens, immediately everyone will increase their rent by at least 30%. Tenants are the ones who gonna bear that load whether they like it or not. And the first thing they gonna say is "d landlord too wicked to raise the rent so much so sudden", not thinking about what caused the landlord to have to do it.

Mark may words, it coming. I just hope allyuh ready for it when it reach.

Many peeps NOT increasing rent cause they are fully aware of the economic situation .

30% is pure greed ! But Rabbit have to eat ah food too