Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

[mad]

Clearly has never seen someone install music or even a deck in one of these newer vehicles.....

Clearly trolling...

Got that right. I doh know why people still answering back, clearly he trolling

[RedVEVO]

The same way you properly dispose of a lead acid battery, there are companies that handle this, same way it have scrap men who buy old engines and transmissions.

Battery packs that need to change, still have a majority of the cells being good, they can be harvested and reused by DIYers

China is having a serious problem with the disposable of the lead acid batteries .

It is a vicious cycle - trying to save the environment by moving away from fossil yet
creating another problem with the batteries .

CNG is a better solution .

[agent007]

Listing of hybrid vehicles in T&T:

KEY:
represent available from the authorized dealership
EV represent electric vehicle

Lexus
CT200h Hybrid 1.8

Toyota
Voxy Hybrid 1.8
Harrier Hybrid 2.5
CH-R Hybrid 1.8
Camry Hybrid 2.5
Prius Hybrid 1.8
Prius Alpha Hybrid 1.8
Sienta Hybrid 1.5
Corolla Axio Hybrid 1.5
Corolla Fielder Hybrid 1.5
Aqua / Prius C Hybrid 1.5

Nissan
Serena Hybrid 2.0
X-Trail Hybrid 2.0
Note ePower EV 1.2
Leaf EV

Honda
Odyssey Hybrid 2.0
Accord Hybrid 2.0
Vezel Hybrid 1.5
Grace Hybrid 1.5
Fit Hybrid 1.3

Mitsubishi
Outlander PHEV Hybrid 2.0

Mazda
Axela Hybrid 2.0

Subaru
XV Hybrid 2.0

BMW
X5 40e Hybrid 2.0
330e Hybrid 2.0
530e Hybrid 2.0
i8 Hybrid 1.5

Mercedes Benz
C350e Hybrid 2.0
E350e Hybrid 2.0

Porsche
Cayenne Hybrid 3.0
Panamera Hybrid 3.0

Hyundai
Ioniq Hybrid 1.6
Ioniq EV

Kia
Niro Hybrid 1.6

[VexXx Dogg]

It'd be good to have a directory of legit places for battery reconditioning/mtce

[sweeks]

Agent007 didn't the Toyota dealership brought in Hybrid Camry and Prius as well?

[vaiostation]

Stick to meh gas guzzler cause all de cars I wanna buy have mvt...

[agent007]

Sweeks you're absolutely correct and it was an oversight on my part. I made the correction.

[mazdatt]

From the budget statement:

I propose to remove all incentives currently available to passenger vehicles with engine sizes exceeding 1599cc. The incentives will only now apply to CNG and hybrid vehicles with engines less than 1599cc.

Some of these hybrids like the Hyundai Ioniq, Kia Niro, Honda Vezel and Toyota PriusC have engine sizes below 1599cc so they should still not attract any taxes.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

From the budget statement:

I propose to remove all incentives currently available to passenger vehicles with engine sizes exceeding 1599cc. The incentives will only now apply to CNG and hybrid vehicles with engines less than 1599cc.

Some of these hybrids like the Hyundai Ioniq, Kia Niro, Honda Vezel and Toyota PriusC have engine sizes below 1599cc so they should still not attract any taxes.

they don't

The following hybrid vehicles are still tax exempt:

Toyota
Corolla Axio Hybrid
Corolla Fielder Hybrid
Aqua / Prius C Hybrid

Honda
Vezel Hybrid
Grace Hybrid (City)
Fit Hybrid

Hyundai
Ioniq

Kia
Niro

[VII]

As ironic as it is, BMW i8 should be exempt also?

1.3 L

[Redress10]

So what sort of taxes are involved with vehicles such as these? Any v.a.t, m.v.t or custom duty? Which taxes still apply if any?

[agent007]

Redress, see link below:
viewtopic.php?t=713292

[Redress10]

Seen

So if a car engine is 1580cc, legally that is listed at as 1.6 engine meaning tax? Or does that fall below the 1599cc etc. Honest question

[agent007]

1.6 is just an approximation based on the cc. All manufacturers do this. 1.6L can be a 1551cc vehicle go all the way up to 1649cc. So a 1.6 car with a cc rating of 1649cc WILL get the tax and one at 1580cc using your example can fall under.

[Redress10]

Oh that's good...I know that engine size determines the tax etc so I just wanted to know if Customs use an approximation (1651cc = 1.7) etc when calculating or if they used the exact engine size. I gather that you are saying they use the exact engine size which is fair to me.

[mad]

Great info OP

[nismodriver]

Any feedback from owners of Hybrid? Service/any issues/performance?

[A172]

serena "hybrid" is not recognized as a tax exempted hybrid (micro hybrid) by customs

since the beginning of 2017 any serena entering trini has been subject to full duty & taxes

[Ben_spanna]

Every Forward thinking , progressing Nation in the world is currently attempting to ENcourage its people to go Green, and we are imposing Taxes to discourage people from buying Hybrids and Electric... what a galloping mess of ignorant idiots we have as ministers............

[sweeks]

Any feedback from owners of Hybrid? Service/any issues/performance?

Good question. It might be too soon to say tho.

[sweeks]

Every Forward thinking , progressing Nation in the world is currently attempting to ENcourage its people to go Green, and we are imposing Taxes to discourage people from buying Hybrids and Electric... what a galloping mess of ignorant idiots we have as ministers............

... Guava season ... anyway, anyhow, anything to generate additional revenue in Sweet TnT

[renegade_wolf]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/26/autos/c ... index.html

https://www.google.tt/amp/s/www.nbcnews ... el-n781431

And we taxing hybrids. Trinidad go end up as a dumping ground for all these countries gas/disel vehicles.

[renegade_wolf]

What they needed to do was take the hard decision to exempt non luxary hybrid vehicles from taxes and increase the mvt on new/foreign used vehicles above 1.5 or 1.3 depends on how drastic they wanna get to incentivise the.population to buy hybrids. It would also go downstream to the mechanics, electricians to elevate their knowledge to repair/maintain these vehicles (similar to how they evolved from repairing carburator to fuel injectors way back when) is not like gas vehicles going anywhere they just evolving how efficiently the fuel is used. Also bamboo might start importting parts and replacement parts might normalise after a while. But they only studying how to get instant money no 5 year or 10 year plan.

[boxy]

Every Forward thinking , progressing Nation in the world is currently attempting to ENcourage its people to go Green, and we are imposing Taxes to discourage people from buying Hybrids and Electric... what a galloping mess of ignorant idiots we have as ministers............

Said forward thinking nations don't import 100% of their vehicles which depletes said nations foreign exchange. I hate the tax as much as anybody else but the foreign used dealers exploited this loophole of this law that Imbert idiotically didn't think through

[agent007]

serena "hybrid" is not recognized as a tax exempted hybrid (micro hybrid) by customs

since the beginning of 2017 any serena entering trini has been subject to full duty & taxes

Very interesting. I did not know this so thanks for sharing.

So guys check this out:

TTTL only brought in the Prius C 1.5 and Prius 1.8. The price of the C was $272k and $257k but after the tax concessions the price was reduced to $205k where an additional discount was being offered and thus reducing the price to an all time low @ $196k. Currently I am told the C is now $215k. So it went back up a bit probably due to forex?

Now onto the Prius 1.8. This car was $410k but after the tax concessions it went down to $310k with a further discount reducing it to $285k. Now that this Prius is once again subject to tax, I am assuming that TTTL will increase the price probably above the $410k to maybe $430k minimum (knowing them).

So the company that created the Hybrid vehicle to begin with will only be able to sell the Prius C for $215k. Now why would anyone purchase this baby Prius brand new when the Hyundai Ioniq 1.6 starts at $185k ?

Once again, the roro dealers who bring in the Axio and Fielder Hybrids as well as the Aqua, Vezel and Fit are going to make a lot of money selling these cars because of the awesome price-point vs the limited brand new options available to us.

As was mentioned in the Aqua thread, right now that car (a 2014 model) can be brought down to T&T fully licensed and ready to drive for much less than $60k. (cheaper than a Latio, Note or AD Van). A 4-year old virtually maintenance free vehicle that quite possibly could be the most fuel efficient vehicle in T&T.

Perhaps this is what the Honourable Minister of Finance wants us to drive?

[Joshie23]

Every Forward thinking , progressing Nation in the world is currently attempting to ENcourage its people to go Green, and we are imposing Taxes to discourage people from buying Hybrids and Electric... what a galloping mess of ignorant idiots we have as ministers............

... Guava season ... anyway, anyhow, anything to generate additional revenue in Sweet TnT

I'd like to disagree. While the IONIQ is obviously a very popular vehicle in Trinidad, one can only fathom the size of the dent in the local dealers' sales when one can add a few thousand dollars to the down payment they'd make in Massy for said IONIQ and bring in their own vehicle, so putting the desire for the new car smell and the difficulty to obtain ForEx aside, bringing in a RoRo hybrid is far more lucrative than facing the local dealer even when comparing apples and apples, with a RoRo X-Trail (which can be had brand new, with many more features than ita local counterpart) and said local offering. Not being a conspiracy theorist, but I really don't think it's 'guava season' that made them remove the concessions on vehicles that may or may not compete with the IONIQ. If it was in fact guava season, that inspired that move, the first thing that should have been put on pause was the tax breaks they (politicians etc) get on their vehicles and well, we know how that discussion went.

[mad]

Every Forward thinking , progressing Nation in the world is currently attempting to ENcourage its people to go Green, and we are imposing Taxes to discourage people from buying Hybrids and Electric... what a galloping mess of ignorant idiots we have as ministers............

X2

[agent007]

Good news. Very soon Toyota Trinidad will receive a sizable shipment of the 2018 Prius C which is carded to be even more affordable the the Ioniq and Niro cousins. More on this as I get detailed info..

[aidan]

Good news. Very soon Toyota Trinidad will receive a sizable shipment of the 2018 Prius C which is carded to be even more affordable the the Ioniq and Niro cousins. More on this as I get detailed info..

Sounds interesting. Is a smaller car also, so it has to be priced competitively

[cryotec]

Looking forward to more info on that. I think that the price will be 140-150k range seeing as the msrp is 20-22k usd based on Toyota US. The 2018 prius c looks very much like the ford fiesta.